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Beautiful work Larry, and good idea to keep it on the road while you're restoring it, once you strip it down it's no longer a bike, it's just a pile of parts. ;D



Thanks again, Terry and ................................................I already have two or three bikes that are "piles of parts".  G'day...Larry

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Restored the air filter today and pulled Red Rider out of long term storage
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Carb and air filter before:


Redid the rusty housing and polished the chrome band:





Going to post some photos of Red Rider ....Larry

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What's a "red rider" Larry? Not another golf cart, I hope? ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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What's a "red rider" Larry? Not another golf cart, I hope? ;D


Guess you saw the new post of the rotted frame??

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Yeah, sorry mate, my memory isn't what it used to be.......... ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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I picked up a nice cb550 front wheel from a fellow up in Phoenix when I lived in Sierra Vista, He had a cool Triumph in frame he was rebuilding and had gone through the motor.  He had a great 50s truck done up with classic weathered looks and the dry desert climate wouldn't change the level of patina from rust but would weather and fade any remaining paint. It was a cool truck with classic 60s air cooler that had a tube filled with water and fan that serves as a swamp cooler style air conditioning for the truck. The bed was redone with wooden slats bed floor that had the UV stable Spar Urethane finish, beautiful stuff.  It was street rodded. I think his intent wss to build it as a chopper style or similar.  He was a cool guy.
it was interesting to see the Honda stuff from a fellow into British bikes.

Nothing from preventing you from outfitting it with dual drilled disc of something with decent calipers and rotors.
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I picked up a nice cb550 front wheel from a fellow up in Phoenix when I lived in Sierra Vista, He had a cool Triumph in frame he was rebuilding and had gone through the motor.  He had a great 50s truck done up with classic weathered looks and the dry desert climate wouldn't change the level of patina from rust but would weather and fade any remaining paint. It was a cool truck with classic 60s air cooler that had a tube filled with water and fan that serves as a swamp cooler style air conditioning for the truck. The bed was redone with wooden slats bed floor that had the UV stable Spar Urethane finish, beautiful stuff.  It was street rodded. I think his intent wss to build it as a chopper style or similar.  He was a cool guy.
it was interesting to see the Honda stuff from a fellow into British bikes.

Nothing from preventing you from outfitting it with dual drilled disc of something with decent calipers and rotors.



No there isn't except time and money , got the battery today, plan to finish the DS6 then make the Tri roadworthy as is, then make it as stock as possible without spending a boatload of bucks...Larry

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That's it Larry, ride that beautiful old Trumpy and just upgrade it as you go. That's what I'm doing with most of my bikes, I don't have time for trailer queens. Cheers, Terry. ;D
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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you can get the amals sleeved with better slides ,makes a big diff and they don't wear so fast.the metal they were made from was really bad.bill
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you can get the amals sleeved with better slides ,makes a big diff and they don't wear so fast.the metal they were made from was really bad.bill

thanks for the tip BP.  Bike only has one Amal so it may not be much of  problem.  I am fairly sure this was a Bonneville at one time and someone installed the single carb....Larry

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The SU HS6 carbs on my 66 122S had worn shafts for the throttle butterfly causing air leaks and a fellow in Mass had a business replacement shafts and boring the bodies with a rebushing them with it delrin reamed to size of the shafts. It was worth the investment and twin SUs were so much more fun, even with seasonal tuning the SUs required.

So, get the carb solid and it will make it run well and take a unknown curve out of the troubleshooting.

Leaky carbs can really make it hard to tune and run optimal.
Nothing you don't know.

A dual piston caliper could solve the braking challenges at the expense of period looks, or a pair of single piston calipers like off a honda might work.
Take a page from FunJimmy's approach with a twist....
he used a modern std fork with multiple pot caliper and single drilled disc. His approach was high $ but, twist the equation. 
Source a decent pair of fork tubes that can provide damping you want, hopefully the trees are compatible.  Otherwise it starts getting pricey too fast.
All balls replacement bearings for the different forks and trees. Then the axle and wheels that can look close enough.
Maybe your current forks are fine and just need replacement tubes to remove the chopper rake.
Then adapter for a good caliper picked up cheaply and rebuild it.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2015, 09:26:01 PM by RAF122S »
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 Looks like fun to me, enjoy it.
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Looks like fun to me, enjoy it.


thanks Don,  one thing it will be as is is a good vibrating exercise machine...Larry

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I missed the updates, nice clean-up of red rider filter body.  You did nice work on that Amal carb too. That should be easier to feel the difference now and better across the entire range.
 Scorpion batteries worth the investment?

As always Larry,  you do fine work and it looks great!

I have a couple Honda calipers you might like to consider for your Triumph if you want to adapt them.
Call me sometime and I will tell you about them and you can see if they might be interesting.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2015, 08:15:20 AM by RAF122S »
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Re: Getting that Amal resleeved, another option is putting a Mikuni on it Larry. Lots of Trumpy, BSA and Norton owners install them because they're so simple, and well engineered. Keep the Amal in a box for when you sell the bike.......... ;D 
I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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i would fit a mikuni , they always seem to work well and will outlast a box full of amal's

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Re: Getting that Amal resleeved, another option is putting a Mikuni on it Larry. Lots of Trumpy, BSA and Norton owners install them because they're so simple, and well engineered. Keep the Amal in a box for when you sell the bike.......... ;D 
i would fit a mikuni , they always seem to work well and will outlast a box full of amal's





any particular size or is there a "standard procedure" that people do....Larry

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Check triumph mikuni kit on ebay...problem will get you something..
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with my tired worn out amals, nothing worked, popped a pair of new premier amals on , balanced and bingo.

starts 1st kick every time nobodies watching and settles into a nice 900 rpm idle after a minute.

they look the part and you still have the choke lever on the bars. But the mikuni has a solid reputation.  ken

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thanks for the responses. I'll check out Feebay...Larry

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Larry, what is the ID of the manifold where the carb meets the head?
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Larry, what is the ID of the manifold where the carb meets the head?



I'll check it out and get back, thanks

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Not sure if this will work...
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This site has some good information about fitting Mikunis to Brit twins:
http://www.mikunioz.com/product-category/vm-carburetors/vm34-carb/
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