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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2015, 02:47:03 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on May 20, 2015, 02:43:10 PM
how did you support the tail section of your pipe? I can't tell from the photos-

Didn't. It just hangs. It's pretty light and didn't give me an issue last year. There's a mount on the rear of the pipe you can attach a bracket to, to support it, but I never took the time to make one.
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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2015, 02:51:48 PM »
Ah. I would make one. Thats a lot of weight hanging on the exhaust studs. A simple strap or spring from passenger peg mount to the screw/bung. Discreet and stable and strong.
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2015, 03:18:58 PM »
Quote from: nicks2319 on May 20, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
Awesome, thanks for the in depth explanation. Forks are from an 07 GSXR750. Looks like the weights are very very close, especially with the amount of stuff i've removed on mine.

If that's the case, you should be able to get on okay with the stock GSXR springs.  Make sure to service the forks with new fork oil and new seals if necessary.
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2015, 03:28:46 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on May 20, 2015, 02:51:48 PM
Ah. I would make one. Thats a lot of weight hanging on the exhaust studs. A simple strap or spring from passenger peg mount to the screw/bung. Discreet and stable and strong.

+1, make a rear support, every time you ride your bike that exhaust may only move a little up and down, but its doing it with every undulation in the road, thousands of times over, it will eventually cause problems. Better to be safe than sorry... ;)
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2015, 03:46:30 PM »
I'll take that advice for sure. I'll rig something up. "spring" was an interesting reference above. Maybe i'll try that.
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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2015, 07:15:38 PM »
Great build! The tank came out awesome!  I used a spring to support the rear of my motogp pipe. Cal advised this rookie too!
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2015, 07:22:38 PM »
Quote from: Tews19 on May 20, 2015, 07:15:38 PM
Great build! The tank came out awesome!  I used a spring to support the rear of my motogp pipe. Cal advised this rookie too!

Would you happen to have a photo?!
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2015, 07:35:35 PM »
That looks great. I made a support bracket from a piece of aluminum for my Motogp pipe.
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2015, 03:31:59 AM »
Quote from: nicks2319 on May 20, 2015, 07:22:38 PM
Would you happen to have a photo?!
Here's mine
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2015, 04:48:15 AM »
This is the first time i noticed how the rear of your swing arm mounts into the arm itself. That is slick Cal. Makes for easy removal of the rear wheel?
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2015, 07:19:17 AM »
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2015, 09:42:50 AM »
Nick,

How's the fine tuning/shakedown coming along?  Ride report?
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2015, 12:41:34 PM »
Going great! First ride was last week. She started right up with one kick after sitting all winter. Had to make some adjustments on the length of the rearset bar, as I was having a hard time downshifting.

More todos:

- Figure out kickstart lever. Slightly hits my rearset arm. Probably going to fab something up.
- Find a new left hand control that has everything on it. Not having a light on-off switch is bugging me, and I think this switch is actually defective. The "pass" button for triggering the high beam randomly works, and the horn button is not working. Checked the wiring a ton of times.
- Shorten rear brake lever. It's too long with the rearsets.

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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2015, 12:57:59 PM »
Kick start lever: I had to shorten my arm about 1"" so that it clears my rear set peg. Might look at that as a solution.

That handlebar control is not going to allow a headlight "defeat" switch. The light is powered automatically the way that switch is wired, and you'll be hard pressed to disable it without changing to a 3 position switch (Off, Lo, Hi)

The "pass" function relies on a relay that you probably didn't wire in.

That switch has the Horn wiring "backwards" from stock Honda. Stock, the horn is powered by Black and the LtGrn sends the ground. Your new switch sends 12v when pressed, so swap the permanent ground wire to the horn, then power comes from the horn button.
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2015, 03:03:34 PM »
I used a K&L switch with a dedicated switch for flash to pass, and an "OFF"-"PARKING"-""ON" light switch as well as a "HI"-"LO"  This is used on my 750 with a Truck Lite LED.



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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2015, 12:08:48 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on June 04, 2015, 12:57:59 PM
Kick start lever: I had to shorten my arm about 1"" so that it clears my rear set peg. Might look at that as a solution.

That handlebar control is not going to allow a headlight "defeat" switch. The light is powered automatically the way that switch is wired, and you'll be hard pressed to disable it without changing to a 3 position switch (Off, Lo, Hi)

The "pass" function relies on a relay that you probably didn't wire in.

That switch has the Horn wiring "backwards" from stock Honda. Stock, the horn is powered by Black and the LtGrn sends the ground. Your new switch sends 12v when pressed, so swap the permanent ground wire to the horn, then power comes from the horn button.

Whoa, thanks for the specifics. Makes sense. I'll give this a shot.
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2015, 12:10:32 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on June 04, 2015, 03:03:34 PM
I used a K&L switch with a dedicated switch for flash to pass, and an "OFF"-"PARKING"-""ON" light switch as well as a "HI"-"LO"  This is used on my 750 with a Truck Lite LED.

Looks great! If I can't get this switch working maybe I'll try the K&L one. Do you remember where you got it? Google isn't turning anything up.
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2015, 03:17:48 PM »
Quote from: nicks2319 on June 05, 2015, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on June 04, 2015, 03:03:34 PM
I used a K&L switch with a dedicated switch for flash to pass, and an "OFF"-"PARKING"-""ON" light switch as well as a "HI"-"LO"  This is used on my 750 with a Truck Lite LED.

Looks great! If I can't get this switch working maybe I'll try the K&L one. Do you remember where you got it? Google isn't turning anything up.

It's actually K&S Technologies (not K&L).  I purchased mine on ebay.  Search for K&S 12-0030 (which is the specific model number).  They go for about $55 shipped.

http://kandstech.com/index.php?page=switchescontrols
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2015, 10:11:45 AM »
Quote from: nicks2319 on May 20, 2015, 11:03:07 AM
Got the brake rotor bolts and the acewell gauge.






This is what I have in mind for my cb500. I don't think I'd do the clip-ons though, I'd have to figure out some flat drag bars or something.  I'd love to know more about the gixxer front end. It really sets off the bike.
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #44 on: July 14, 2015, 10:22:23 AM »
Quote from: MJL on July 14, 2015, 10:11:45 AM
Quote from: nicks2319 on May 20, 2015, 11:03:07 AM
Got the brake rotor bolts and the acewell gauge.






This is what I have in mind for my cb500. I don't think I'd do the clip-ons though, I'd have to figure out some flat drag bars or something.  I'd love to know more about the gixxer front end. It really sets off the bike.

I think Cognito has some rise clamps to mount regular bars. You'd have to drill out the top triple though. As far as the gsxr setup, I took the easy way out with the Cognito hub. Some people machine their own stuff custom. Lots of people doing this these days it seems.
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« Reply #45 on: July 14, 2015, 11:13:50 AM »
Nick,

Do you recall which parts (make and parts number) you used to bolt up the GSXR rotors to your Cognitomoto hub?
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #46 on: July 14, 2015, 11:20:07 AM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on July 14, 2015, 11:13:50 AM
Nick,

Do you recall which parts (make and parts number) you used to bolt up the GSXR rotors to your Cognitomoto hub?

Yeah, I actually screwed up and grabbed the wrong bolts the first time. They specifically need to be rotors and rotor bolts from:

2006-2007 GSX-R600
2005-2007 GSX-R750
2005-2010 GSX-R1000

Not sure on parts numbers. I got them from ebay. Found out the hard way that the 09 gsxr750 bolts are too small.
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Re: Winter basement build. CB500 GSXR front & CB550 resto-mod
« Reply #47 on: July 14, 2015, 01:07:40 PM »
That's a nice looking bike.  It is real simple and real clean.
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