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Re: Norton
« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2015, 09:02:25 PM »
I think by the end of next week I will have bought another commando too.


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Re: Norton
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2015, 05:33:01 AM »
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Re: Norton
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2015, 06:08:12 AM »
I think by the end of next week I will have bought another commando too.


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Re: Norton
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2015, 11:54:22 AM »
Yeah, so now I bought this!


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Re: Norton
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2015, 08:31:01 PM »
Terry, probably going to sell the commandos and keep the featherbed.
Got an adress to ship them too?

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Re: Norton
« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2015, 05:34:54 PM »
Terry, probably going to sell the commandos and keep the featherbed.
Got an adress to ship them too?

G'Day Jag, if you're serious, lets do it! I just bought this Harley Sportster, but I reckon I can stretch to a reasonably priced Norty or two! PM me with what you'd like to get out of it/them, and we'll need to talk about shipping etc too. Sorry I didn't get back to you earlier mate, I'm working in another city (Canberra) and commuting back to Melbourne on weekends (800 mile round trip) and staying in hotels in Canberra, with differing levels of wifi access. Let me know mate, there's always room for one or three more bikes.......... ;D

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Re: Norton
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2016, 06:53:51 AM »
Well I have not been messing with my SOHC4 bikes for most of the winter.
Chopper still has the top end off the motor and the Seeley is in the back of my storage garage.

Has been a Norton shop.....

I still have the three bikes.  The 850 was the closest to the road so it was selected to do first.
Goal was to do a heavy service, but not a restoration.  Just clean up some stuff and make sure everything worked.

Well some of that got slightly out of hand....as it always does.
So this happened....

Crazy long list of parts.  But actually the cost was on par, or cheaper then the same for a CB750.
At the end of the day I feel that this whole process was cheaper and easier then a CB750.
Bikes are totally different to ride though.

Now I have a 74 850 Commando to ride daily!




Im debating if I want to do a custom "scrambler" with the 750 Commando next, or build a racer off the Featherbed.

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Re: Norton
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2016, 07:35:17 AM »
Whats the plan for the gold mag wheels? I really like those by the way, since I'm a bit of a wheel nut like you are.
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Re: Norton
« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2016, 08:38:06 AM »
They are Cambary(?spl?) and supposed to "bolt on" to the 850.

Front has a small crack that I just had welded.
Rear seemed to fit well, but the speedo drive bottomed out and caused an issue.
Front just didn't want to line up with the stock spacers.  I am sure at combo of different stock spacers, or just custom ones would solve the issue.

The weather got nice, and I was itching to start riding so I stopped messing with the wheels, and focused on the rest of the bike.
At some point I will get back to it.
Also have a 14 inch front rotor and AP caliper kit that didn't work out as well as I was hoping.

I REALLY want to get these wheels to work though as I think they will look KILLER.
I have real issue with mag wheels.

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Re: Norton
« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2016, 09:02:00 AM »
Nice ride Jag, those front wheels would look awesome...Larry

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Re: Norton
« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2016, 01:28:18 PM »
Beautiful. For some reason I have always preferred Nortons to Triumphs.
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Re: Norton
« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2016, 02:02:58 PM »
Looks great, Jag.  Never ridden a Norton although I would like to buy one.

Can you describe the difference in handling compared to a CB750?
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Re: Norton
« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2016, 02:49:02 PM »
So Jag the the INOA rally is coming up in July, Its in Quincy, Ca. Start making plans.

http://nortonrally.com/inoa-rally-2016

 My grandson is prepping mine.

thanks, Mark
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Re: Norton
« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2016, 03:52:31 PM »
Looks great, Jag.  Never ridden a Norton although I would like to buy one.

Can you describe the difference in handling compared to a CB750?

That's a great question Stev-o. Hope Jag doesn't mind if I chip in.

Frame geometry on the Commando is a widely debated topic on the NOC site, with a lot of evidence that they were not symmetrical from the factory, particularly those out-sorced for manufacture in Europe (Italy I think). Biggest clue seems to be wheel alignment, in particular the back wheel not being central to the frame when aligned with the front. There are guys that specialise in 'putting that right' over here, with claims of improved handling as a result. There are various other mods aimed at reducing weave and vibration, from head steadys to upgraded isolastic engine mounts.

Personally, I think if you ride an old Brit it's better to just get aquainted with its quirks and ride accordingly. Commandos to CB750's isn't apples and oranges, but they are different enough to make it difficult to do a real comparison. My old Commando (750 Roadster) was lighter, more 'flickable' than a CB, making it a great ride through the twisties. It did suffer from weave if entering a sweeping bend a bit too spirited, but you soon got to know the limitations. Didn't have the acceleration of the CB, and the vibration made for an unpleasant ride for prolonged, sustained speeds. In those days, there wasn't any discussion about frame geometry, balancing cranks etc or if there was I didn't know about it.

My featherbed Dommie, now 58 yrs old, inspires more confidence handling wise than the Commando ever did, and, at the risk of sounding sacrilegious, is my bike of choice over my CB for a 'fun' ride all day long. Just have to treat it with a bit of respect.
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Re: Norton
« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2016, 04:12:18 PM »
Looks great, Jag.  Never ridden a Norton although I would like to buy one.

Can you describe the difference in handling compared to a CB750?

That's a great question Stev-o. Hope Jag doesn't mind if I chip in.

Frame geometry on the Commando is a widely debated topic on the NOC site, with a lot of evidence that they were not symmetrical from the factory, particularly those out-sorced for manufacture in Europe (Italy I think). Biggest clue seems to be wheel alignment, in particular the back wheel not being central to the frame when aligned with the front. There are guys that specialise in 'putting that right' over here, with claims of improved handling as a result. There are various other mods aimed at reducing weave and vibration, from head steadys to upgraded isolastic engine mounts.

Personally, I think if you ride an old Brit it's better to just get aquainted with its quirks and ride accordingly. Commandos to CB750's isn't apples and oranges, but they are different enough to make it difficult to do a real comparison. My old Commando (750 Roadster) was lighter, more 'flickable' than a CB, making it a great ride through the twisties. It did suffer from weave if entering a sweeping bend a bit too spirited, but you soon got to know the limitations. Didn't have the acceleration of the CB, and the vibration made for an unpleasant ride for prolonged, sustained speeds. In those days, there wasn't any discussion about frame geometry, balancing cranks etc or if there was I didn't know about it.

My featherbed Dommie, now 58 yrs old, inspires more confidence handling wise than the Commando ever did, and, at the risk of sounding sacrilegious, is my bike of choice over my CB for a 'fun' ride all day long. Just have to treat it with a bit of respect.
+1.  My 72 CB750 shares the garage with a 71 BSA Lightning.  Same basic comparison.  Also the shift and rear brake controls are on opposite sides. 

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Re: Norton
« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2016, 05:49:18 PM »
Well I have not been messing with my SOHC4 bikes for most of the winter.
Chopper still has the top end off the motor and the Seeley is in the back of my storage garage.

Has been a Norton shop.....

I still have the three bikes.  The 850 was the closest to the road so it was selected to do first.
Goal was to do a heavy service, but not a restoration.  Just clean up some stuff and make sure everything worked.

Well some of that got slightly out of hand....as it always does.
So this happened....

Crazy long list of parts.  But actually the cost was on par, or cheaper then the same for a CB750.
At the end of the day I feel that this whole process was cheaper and easier then a CB750.
Bikes are totally different to ride though.

Now I have a 74 850 Commando to ride daily!




Im debating if I want to do a custom "scrambler" with the 750 Commando next, or build a racer off the Featherbed.

That looks bloody magnificent mate, well done! Don't wear yourself out on that 750 though, too much of a good thing and all that, just box it up and send it over here, and spread the love! Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Norton
« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2016, 05:17:31 AM »
I had a CB450 for a while, only got rid of it because it sold for ooodddllles of money.
Very much missed that "size" bike. 

My hope was that the Commando would feel like a slightly more powerful/faster CB450.
All and all I feel that is about what it is.

Commando is way more "raw" then the CB750, it also feels lighter and as said....egger.
Feels like it wants to be pushed harder.
I assume that if you put a stop watch to it that the CB750 would be faster, but the feeling is that the Norton is.

Stock brakes are WAY better on the CB then the Norton though.

I have owned a few British cars over the years and there is a "way" about them.
This Commando is the same.  You need a mindset to deal with servicing and working on them.
Lots of things do not seem as "logical" as say Honda does them.



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Re: Norton
« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2016, 07:06:40 AM »
I had a CB450 for a while, only got rid of it because it sold for ooodddllles of money.
Very much missed that "size" bike. 


That's why I sold my GL1000 and went back to a 550. I miss the incredibly smooth engine and effortless highway speed cruising. But I ride mostly around town and the GL was just a beast. My 550 is the perfect compromise. It can easily cruise all day at 70-75 if I want to, but it is much easier to ride in the city and slower 2 lanes.
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