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Offline screemn2

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cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« on: July 21, 2015, 08:50:47 AM »
Clutch seems to lock up nicely when jerking the throttle in 1 st 2 nd and so on..but when you run through the gears kinda hard it seems to be slipping when running into the next gear...is there an adjustment i an missing?.. i am a little baffled considering it locks up good and solid except when running through the gears...any ideas is appreciated thanks
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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2015, 09:41:44 AM »
have you been in the engine?  worn dogs on those gears?
can you see up thru the oil pan opening to check?
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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 11:30:27 AM »
I replaced all the gaskets...oil pan and such...from what i could see all looked fine when i did so...it seem pretty weird..very smooth transition from gear to gear under heavy throttle...and dont beleiveit is tire spin...clutches either lock up or slip depending on were adjusted...odd sensation for sure

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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 12:35:57 PM »
sounds like the dogs are not staying engaged....
what condition was this bike in when you got it?
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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 01:09:11 PM »
That's typical to get clutch slip in the higher gears when it's under more load. Adjust enough free play in the clutch and try again. If it still slips replace the steels & discs while Honda still has them. You want to try a cheap route first, add some sparkplug washers under the worn out 40 year old clutch springs and give it a go.  ;D  I use stock Honda clutch parts & springs in an engine that makes double the stock HP and these parts are the best option.

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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 01:31:40 PM »
i just put new plates inn..and all got perfekt..the strange thing vas..the old plates vas in tolerenses and look fine...but the new did a total difference..so spend the Money..and dont vaste time to press the springs.( it Works ..have done it..).just new plates inn..and drive it hard.... :) :)
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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 02:34:59 PM »
Thanks guys...the bike has about 26000 miles on it...not too bad of shape...i just dont get whyit would lock up like if im even rollin in first gear and rapp on tje throttle its as solid as canbe ..but make shifts under high rpm seems to smoothly slide into gear...shifts great...and will adjust the clutch out a little bit to see if that helps...but seems to be in a good spot on the handle..thanks again for all and any info...picks of how i got it and how it looks now...getting close but not done yet
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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2015, 03:44:29 PM »
You using synthetic oil?
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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2015, 04:09:13 PM »
Using valvoline 10 40 cycle oil

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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2015, 07:30:08 PM »
It's normal to feel/hear clutch slippage during "spirited acceleration" gear shifts into higher gears. In low gear, the engine can barely free rev as fast as the bike will accelerate - even if it is slipping a bit you would be hard pressed to hear it. In the higher gears full throttle will be pulling against the steep gearing and clutch slip is both worse and more noticeable.
A slipping transmission has a very brutal sound and feel. You can't have that and not think your gearbox is self destructing (it is).
Replace the clutch friction disks and deglaze the steels. If the springs are under the free length service limit, replace them. Do not go to heavy springs with a stock engine, they are not necessary and the extra level pull will not be fun.
There are many post here about clutch rebuilding. Make sure the steels go back the same way around (they should all cup the same way and they are never perfectly flat), soak the friction disks in motor oil before assembly, and remove any notches in the basket finger edges that the plates could hang up on - just file them flat and do about the same amount of filing on all fingers. a bit oversize doesn't affect operation.

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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2015, 08:37:41 PM »
I had slipping until I replaced the springs as well as used better oil and new plates. If you've ever used a non-motorcycle oil (full synth, I don't want to open that can of worms though ;) ) it will slip
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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2015, 07:15:05 AM »
Thank guys...tranmission shifts and sounds beautiful...no noises at all...gonna run it a tad to see if it maybe clears up...not sure what the po was running and with the few miles i have pit on it some more may do some good...thanks again :)

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Re: cb550k clutch slipping when goin through gears hard?
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2015, 04:24:00 PM »
If the Po did use the wrong oil and the discs are saturated, you may have no choice but to replace them.
Not the end of the world by any means.
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