Author Topic: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!  (Read 85845 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Trad

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 964
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #225 on: January 31, 2016, 03:04:00 AM »
Very Very cool. So Custom, it's become something else. Great work man, not many people can pull a bike like this off so elegantly. Really looking forward to seeing it completed.
74 CB550 Build: NOS-GUTTED-OEMplus-HOLDTRUE
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,130575.0.html

Offline Restoration Fan

  • My wife will never call me
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,966
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #226 on: January 31, 2016, 04:26:12 AM »
Very Very cool. So Custom, it's become something else. Great work man, not many people can pull a bike like this off so elegantly. Really looking forward to seeing it completed.
+1

Really well done.  Thanks for taking the time to share it with us.

Ron
Ron

Stella - Logan's Senior Project    78 750K http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=141761.0

Logan's Reward - CB500 and CB550 Cafes    http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,147787.0.html

Offline calj737

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,100
  • I refuse...
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #227 on: January 31, 2016, 06:27:16 AM »
I dont recall whether you were ever asked or stated; are you planning to install a frame kit for servicing/installing the motor? I'd encourage you to, also to design something especially elegant if you do  ;)
'74 550 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=126401.0
'73 500 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132935.0

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of it's victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

Offline MessnerMoto

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 710
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #228 on: January 31, 2016, 01:29:37 PM »
Thanks! Will see where this "customness" brings me :) This is taking to much time if you ask me.. and yes money :)

I dont recall whether you were ever asked or stated; are you planning to install a frame kit for servicing/installing the motor? I'd encourage you to, also to design something especially elegant if you do  ;)

I need to think about it. But yes good point probably it is a must have especially because there will be also so many modifications on the engine. I will see if I can think of something elegant ;)

Offline P.abrera

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 409
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #229 on: February 01, 2016, 02:23:57 PM »
Rear tire/wheel has a great meaty and aggressive look to it. Nicely achieved so far.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

JWExperience

  • Guest
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #230 on: February 01, 2016, 05:30:36 PM »
Sweet!!!! Can't wait to see the tank on it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Offline Yozzer74

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 86
    • Yozzer
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #231 on: February 02, 2016, 04:45:57 AM »
Nice

Offline Old Scrambler

  • My CB750K3 has been in 39 States & 5 Provinces
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,812
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #232 on: February 07, 2016, 03:28:12 PM »
VERY NICE ;)

754 makes a weld-less frame kit ;)

I started with a CB750A frame.  Now looking at a few of your parts ;D

BTW........I have a little experience with building the F2 motor.....but you may choose to go your own way........and that's THE BEST 8) 8) 8) 8)
Dennis in Wisconsin
'64 Triumph Cub & '74 Honda CB750 Bonneville Salt Flats AMA Record Holder (6)
CB750 Classic Bonneville Racer thread - http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,135473.0.html
'63 CL72 Project(s)
'66 CL77 Red
'67 Triumph T100C
'73 750K3 Owned since New
'77 750F2 Cafe Project
2020 ROYAL ENFIELD Himalayan

Offline MessnerMoto

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 710
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #233 on: February 08, 2016, 05:46:48 AM »
So current state of build is this.

Frame modifications are done more or less. I am waiting for tarozzi rear sets to arrive so I can test rear brake cylinder. Front brake cylinder is mounted below tank. I need to make custom brake cable.

But I will need to make something like 754s frame kit. I thinks 754s kit perfect. Just shipping would cost me more then kit....

Metal shaping work has begun... I hope I will get the tank and the tail before the end on this month. I will post pictures of progress.

I ordered some things from CycleX for my engine... It will be a 836cc

Currently I am designing all the chain tensioners. I need to correct weak points of cb engine before I upgrade the power :) you can follow the design process in high performance part of forum.

Also I will vapor blast all the engine parts(cases, head etc...) and I will do vapor blasting by myself with some improvised equipment because where I leave no body is doing good vapor blasting :)


« Last Edit: February 08, 2016, 05:48:23 AM by MessnerMoto »

Offline calj737

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,100
  • I refuse...
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #234 on: February 08, 2016, 05:51:17 AM »
'74 550 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=126401.0
'73 500 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132935.0

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of it's victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

Offline MessnerMoto

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 710
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #235 on: February 08, 2016, 07:19:29 AM »
Yep something like that will do :)

Offline 754

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 29,058
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #236 on: February 08, 2016, 10:45:54 AM »
 The frame kit weighs under 500 grams in shipping box..
Shipping with tracking is around 30 bux or so...... but be about 2 weeks to get more ready..
 yout bike is llooking good , take lots of pics while shaping the metal.
Maker of the WELDLESS 750 Frame Kit
dodogas99@gmail.com
Kelowna B.C.       Canada

My next bike will be a ..ANFOB.....

It's All part of the ADVENTURE...

73 836cc.. Green, had it for 3 decades!!
Lost quite a few CB 750's along the way

Offline MessnerMoto

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 710
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #237 on: February 19, 2016, 03:16:09 PM »
Rearset brackets... They will hold Tarozzi rearset ;)



Offline FunJimmy

  • Who you calling
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,802
  • Vancouver
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #238 on: February 19, 2016, 03:38:39 PM »
Those brackets look great.

Here are the ones I made for Branden and Tige.
Wish I had access to proper machines.

You never see a motorcycle parked outside of a psychiatrist's office!

CB550 Cafe Interceptor a Gentlemans Roadster
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=27159.0

Offline Trad

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 964
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #239 on: February 19, 2016, 07:12:43 PM »
+1, rear set brackets are clean AF.
74 CB550 Build: NOS-GUTTED-OEMplus-HOLDTRUE
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,130575.0.html

Offline RAFster122s

  • I feel like a really really
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,528
  • SOHC4 member # 2605
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #240 on: February 19, 2016, 11:05:27 PM »
I wonder if a roundover bit in a router could handle cutting aluminum? It is easy to machine but cutting dry it tends to clog some cutters. I don't know if your router could handle cutting fluid as long as you don't get it in the bearings or router motor.
If it could then with several passes taking small cuts you could do roundovers on blanks of aluminum you have cut to shape. Jigging the part so it wont move and you have a solid surface to run it so it doesn't tilt causing a bad cut. A variable speed trim router would be what I would test it with on some scrap.
David- back in the desert SW!

Offline neevo

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 118
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #241 on: February 19, 2016, 11:35:49 PM »
Candle wax?

Offline MessnerMoto

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 710
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #242 on: February 20, 2016, 12:10:43 AM »
Those brackets look great.

Here are the ones I made for Branden and Tige.
Wish I had access to proper machines.



If you have done it without CNC yours are better ;) What is the price of one houre work on CNC in US?
You can make mine design with waterjet and than add fillet by hand.

I wonder if a roundover bit in a router could handle cutting aluminum? It is easy to machine but cutting dry it tends to clog some cutters. I don't know if your router could handle cutting fluid as long as you don't get it in the bearings or router motor.
If it could then with several passes taking small cuts you could do roundovers on blanks of aluminum you have cut to shape. Jigging the part so it wont move and you have a solid surface to run it so it doesn't tilt causing a bad cut. A variable speed trim router would be what I would test it with on some scrap.

Not sure about this. But fillet can be added with some hand tools... If you want to spend time on it :)

Offline slikwilli420

  • Master of Disaster
  • Master
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,362
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #243 on: February 20, 2016, 05:11:25 AM »
A quarter round bit in a router works perfectly. It's the quickest and most accurate way to get a nice radius on an aluminum part. I'm playing around with this very method on the custom triple trees I'm making.
All you gotta do is do what you gotta do.

Vintage Speed Parts Mashup: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133638.0
Rickman CR Parts Kit Refresh: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,154837.0.html
AHRMA CB750 Racer: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,158461.0.html
AHRMA Superbike Heavyweight Racer: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,173120.0.html
'76F CB750 Patina Redemption: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,174871.0.html

Offline Yozzer74

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 86
    • Yozzer
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #244 on: February 20, 2016, 11:30:24 AM »
They look great they will look good with other parts you've made .

Offline MessnerMoto

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 710
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #245 on: February 21, 2016, 05:33:37 AM »
Yep I tried to designe it to fit with the rest of the design ;)

Offline Artracing

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 169
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #246 on: February 21, 2016, 06:11:25 AM »
Beautiful work and engineering. Finite Analysis. Nice going.

Rob

Offline MessnerMoto

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 710
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #247 on: April 01, 2016, 11:59:34 AM »
There is much small stuff going on. I haven't updated the thread for some time... been busy. I received so much stuff for the engine for engine. But first some small custom stuff ;)

I finished final design of cam and primary chain tensioners.

I cut on laser some stainless steel sheets.



I am waiting for plastic to be cut on cnc.

Also I made some central wheel for cam tensioner( explanation High Performance ยป CycleX HiPo cam chain tensioner & primary chain tensioner). It is made of 4721 steel and then nitrated to 55Rc.




And I made several torsional springs for primary tensioner. I wanted to test different diameters of wire. I ended with 3mm black wire for springs. So it is a HD spring 0.1mm more in diameter then stock ;)... And of cores you have to heat threat your springs if you want them to last...



And some custom rocker shafts. 4721 steel nitrated to 55RC



And this is still cheaper then oem things ;) One of the reason why I am doing this :)
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 12:09:01 PM by MessnerMoto »

Offline bwaller

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,485
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #248 on: April 01, 2016, 02:35:45 PM »
Very good work MM.

Offline Retro Rocket

  • Eggs are hard due too a
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 19,279
  • ROCK & ROLL
Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling now....
« Reply #249 on: April 01, 2016, 04:11:22 PM »
Beautiful work... ;)
750 K2 1000cc
750 F1 970cc
750 Bitsa 900cc
If You can't fix it with a hammer, You've got an electrical problem.