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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #150 on: December 08, 2015, 06:56:44 AM »
I quit.    Beautiful work.  I want to be a machinist when I grow up.
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #151 on: December 08, 2015, 08:41:46 AM »
This build continues to showcase your CAD skills.  Very nice!!
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #152 on: December 08, 2015, 12:53:09 PM »
Quote from: greenjeans on December 08, 2015, 06:56:44 AM
I quit.    Beautiful work.  I want to be a machinist when I grow up.

Start learning now ;) . I am not really machinist... I am just able to learn new things :)

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on December 08, 2015, 08:41:46 AM
This build continues to showcase your CAD skills.  Very nice!!

Thanks! I think I finished all the design for the bike. I will concentrate on fabrication and engine from now :)
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #153 on: December 09, 2015, 07:28:08 AM »







I've got my seat today. I first 3d printed the seat and than I sent it to a guy who made a mold from 3d printed seat. Printed version is in the middle. 3d print is dirty because of mold making material. Foam is some kind of polyurethane. I have several examples of seat to chose foam density for my butt :)

I've cut metal insert from ribbed aluminum sheet just for test fit... I will not use ribbed al... I don't like that look.





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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #154 on: December 09, 2015, 08:14:12 AM »
Amazing as always.  Now if only you could 3D print leather upholstery!!   ;D
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1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #155 on: December 09, 2015, 10:06:06 AM »
holy bloody mackerel!!!

what an amazing build ,thank you for the detail ,and taking the time  to post ,as well as actually doing the project .


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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #156 on: December 11, 2015, 12:58:49 PM »
Quote from: ivanhoew on December 09, 2015, 10:06:06 AM
holy bloody mackerel!!!

what an amazing build ,thank you for the detail ,and taking the time  to post ,as well as actually doing the project .


robert.

It will be more amazing when all starts to come together ;) No it is just a ton of parts :)

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Amazing as always.  Now if only you could 3D print leather upholstery!!   ;D

We will see the day when you will be able to print hole bike ;)
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #157 on: December 11, 2015, 03:21:25 PM »
Quote from: MessnerMoto on December 11, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
We will see the day when you will be able to print hole bike ;)

Done! No less than a SOHC Honda.

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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #158 on: December 11, 2015, 07:42:31 PM »
Quote from: FunJimmy on December 11, 2015, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: MessnerMoto on December 11, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
We will see the day when you will be able to print hole bike ;)

Done! No less than a SOHC Honda.


No way! I haven't seen it before. If his 3d print is based on CAD data, then we can benefit from it :)
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #159 on: December 11, 2015, 11:21:46 PM »
Too bad the guy in the video cannot tell the difference between a CB500 and a CB750!  Cool nonetheless.
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1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #160 on: December 12, 2015, 01:52:50 AM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on December 11, 2015, 11:21:46 PM
Too bad the guy in the video cannot tell the difference between a CB500 and a CB750!  Cool nonetheless.

:D good catch.  I was focused on 3d print ;)
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #161 on: December 23, 2015, 09:35:14 AM »
Finished printing light support structure. I need to to do some sanding on print... I am speeding up manufacturing of parts. I want to have a roller fast so I can concentrate on the engine.... Waiting for my seat to come back from upholstery guy...







« Last Edit: December 23, 2015, 09:49:12 AM by MessnerMoto »
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #162 on: December 23, 2015, 10:46:29 AM »
This build is literally XXX-rated bike porn!

Well done, man.  Thanks for taking the time to document all of this.  Awesome build!
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #163 on: December 23, 2015, 02:21:04 PM »
I've said it before. This is some state of the art fab!
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1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - CNC handlebars
« Reply #164 on: December 30, 2015, 06:33:46 AM »
Quote from: Restoration Fan on December 23, 2015, 10:46:29 AM
This build is literally XXX-rated bike porn!

Well done, man.  Thanks for taking the time to document all of this.  Awesome build!

Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on December 23, 2015, 02:21:04 PM
I've said it before. This is some state of the art fab!


Thanks again ;)... I would not recommend going this way with the build. This is taking to much time. It is becoming my main job :D

I made illustration of bike design. I am printing some t-shirts for my all the people and companies involved in my project. Fill free to use image


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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Primary chains question
« Reply #165 on: January 02, 2016, 02:12:10 PM »
Because I will upgrade the engine power I was digging about parts I will need. I see people are using HD primary chains and that people are really happy about those chains. In my search I come across this blog

http://www.breganzane.com/workshop/chains_primary.php it is about Laverda SOHC 750s...

Similar bike to cb750 and people there are using two IWIS G67HP simplex chains instead duplex and triplex chains because they say it is a better and stronger solution. Btw primary chains for cb750 are standard ISO/ANSI chains 3/8 x 7/32‘‘ but with thicker chain plates... This chain looks very similar to HD primary chains...
The best part is that there is an endless chain IWIS G67HP with 68 links for BMWs

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steuerkette-SWAG-99-11-0345-/151400652918?hash=item23402ea076:g

the price is 30 eu per chain. Can be found cheaper...

Also I did more digging and I found specs for IWIS chains(IWIS is making only timing chains... German company... part of SWAg company)

http://www.iwis.de/uploads/tx_sbdownloader/iwis_Motorsysteme_Automotive_aftermarket_Ersatzteile_DE_EN.pdf

and there you can see there are even 2 better chains... First G68HPF­2... again very similar specs like HD chains...
I only found this with 72 links... so it needs to be shorten 4 links....

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Steuerkette-SWAG-30-93-9962-/161555573484?hash=item259d766aec:g:XxAAAOSwmrlUsOv-
50eu... but can be found for 35eu....

And also there is this G68VH... stronger then previous 2(tensile strength) but smaller pin diameter.
http://www.buycarparts.co.uk/swag/7535305
around 50eu also....

Last two chains are for Audis...

My question is.. did anybody else came across this? Or did someone use this chains?

« Last Edit: January 04, 2016, 03:39:36 AM by MessnerMoto »
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Primary chains question/research
« Reply #166 on: January 03, 2016, 11:18:10 PM »
Incredible , boggles the mind
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Primary chains question/research
« Reply #167 on: January 04, 2016, 03:10:11 AM »
Chain topic is now in High Performance part of the forum ;)
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Primary chains question/research
« Reply #168 on: January 06, 2016, 06:58:47 PM »
So many things are going on currently... Pictures will speak ;)























« Last Edit: January 06, 2016, 07:00:20 PM by MessnerMoto »
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Primary chains question/research
« Reply #169 on: January 06, 2016, 07:01:05 PM »
I may have missed it but, what is that front hub mate, very nice indeed.... ;)
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« Reply #170 on: January 06, 2016, 07:04:32 PM »
I designed that hub :D Page 2 ;)
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« Reply #171 on: January 06, 2016, 07:11:47 PM »
Quote from: MessnerMoto on January 06, 2016, 07:04:32 PM
I designed that hub :D Page 2 ;)

Well don't stop at just one.... ;D ;)
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling soon
« Reply #172 on: January 06, 2016, 07:21:16 PM »
Not stoping for sure;)
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 Caferacer build - Rolling soon
« Reply #173 on: January 06, 2016, 07:24:18 PM »
Thought about building your own frame..?
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« Reply #174 on: January 06, 2016, 07:33:15 PM »
Actually yes. But then I would never finish :) . This build is starting to become my main job I need to restrict myself before it gets completely out of control.

.... But original frame... welds... stamped sheet metal on frame... it does look good I will say.. especially when I start putting my parts
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