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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #350 on: November 04, 2018, 08:17:31 PM »
Man are those ever nice, can you give out the price?
Incredibly beautiful piece of alloy.,
 Are they momentary switches, or can they stay on ?
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #351 on: November 05, 2018, 08:36:00 AM »
Man are those ever nice, can you give out the price?
Incredibly beautiful piece of alloy.,
 Are they momentary switches, or can they stay on ?

Ditto!
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #352 on: November 05, 2018, 09:59:19 AM »
Man are those ever nice, can you give out the price?
Incredibly beautiful piece of alloy.,
 Are they momentary switches, or can they stay on ?

thanks ;)

Those are momentary switches. Sent you PM ;)

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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #353 on: November 19, 2018, 01:43:24 PM »
... Actually I never stoped upgrading my bike.... After several thousands of km I had to change some week spots.

Original 3D printed in ABS plastic holders, reinforced with stainless steel plates, for headlight didn't hold well. You can see them in first photo. They are holding to much weight... Headlight assembly weights above what I anticipated... Originally I wanted to 3D print holders in Aluminum but it it is still to expensive. 

So next best thing CNC ;)




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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #354 on: November 20, 2018, 03:18:57 AM »
 Beauty...!!!   

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« Reply #355 on: November 20, 2018, 04:29:27 AM »
thx;)

I will assemble everything it in next several days stay tuned ;)

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« Reply #356 on: November 23, 2018, 12:57:10 PM »
Friday night ;)

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« Reply #357 on: November 23, 2018, 04:48:20 PM »
 Got'a Love it when a plan comes together so nicely!

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« Reply #358 on: January 21, 2019, 06:56:37 PM »
Bit late to the party but beautiful build! You are truly an artist! Could you tell me what oil cooler you used for your build?
Thank you!
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #360 on: February 07, 2019, 06:06:59 AM »
Just to show sneak peek to people from forum of the final production version of switches. They will be ready for shipping next week.

If somebody needs them for project PM fast before it runs out ;)
« Last Edit: April 28, 2022, 06:12:45 AM by MessnerMoto »

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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #361 on: February 07, 2019, 11:24:19 AM »
Just to show sneak peek to people from forum of the final production version of switches. They will be ready for shipping next week.

If somebody needs them for project PM fast before it runs out ;)

Very nice, Mirko!
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #362 on: February 08, 2019, 10:09:39 AM »
Thanks ;)

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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #363 on: February 08, 2019, 06:27:29 PM »
Are the wires routed internally?
If so; How is that done with this one peace housing design?

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« Reply #364 on: February 09, 2019, 11:24:00 AM »
The cable exits the button on the side, bellow handlebars. So it is not visible

I saw how other companies are using thin wires and root them in handlebars. Thats completely unpractical and wires break..I am using 0.22m2 wires in cable. They are physically strong... similar products use 0.14m2

I even added 3D printed plastic support for cable so it will not break
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« Reply #365 on: February 09, 2019, 03:30:40 PM »
The cable support is a nice idea, but there are many who wish to route the wires internally to the bars, especially clip-ons.

One reason “others” use a thinner gauge wire is the terminal screw post beneath the button is very, very small. A thicker wire doesn’t really fit. Add to that, the wires leaving the terminal need to avoid racing against the metal bars, causing a short. It’s all very tight tolerances.
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #366 on: February 09, 2019, 04:24:53 PM »
The cable support is a nice idea, but there are many who wish to route the wires internally to the bars, especially clip-ons.

One reason “others” use a thinner gauge wire is the terminal screw post beneath the button is very, very small. A thicker wire doesn’t really fit. Add to that, the wires leaving the terminal need to avoid racing against the metal bars, causing a short. It’s all very tight tolerances.

yep and there is a lot of people complaining that those thin wires are failing.... And then it is big pain to fix them because they are routed inside. Completely impractical if you want to drive a motorcycle. Wire needs to be mechanically strong to resist fatigue failure.

but the main reason why they are left to be routed inside the switches/clipons, my opinion, is because it is much cheaper for machining of switches and is much cheaper to leave to end user to think how he is going to solve cable exit/routing...

This is more expensive(to produce) solution but much more reliable, practical and visually you don't see the cable because it follows the clip ons from below. My buttons are soldered and isolated. You can see it on my bike how it looks.... You don't see the cable.

but this can be only just mine opinion ;)
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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #367 on: February 10, 2019, 09:56:42 AM »
Ah yes, I see now.  Well that dose make it easier for routing, even thought I can see the appeal of having them internal, this method can be more forgiving with locating & making changes.

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« Reply #368 on: February 10, 2019, 11:42:27 AM »
.... Just to be clear... you can also use this switches and rout the wires in clip ons. I am supplying this small 3D printed plug for people who want to rout the wires in clip ons.

But I am strongly advise agains it....

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« Reply #369 on: July 27, 2019, 05:52:14 AM »
I did not update the thread for a long time. There is several products that came out from this project

I will start with pictures of finished switches

and many more pictures and info here
https://messnermoto.com/product/switches-for-motorcycle-mini-3-push-buttons-for-handlebar-cnc/










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« Reply #370 on: July 27, 2019, 05:58:51 AM »
And then the MessnerMoto CNC Clip-Ons

available for 50mm gsxr forks

and several other version are in production and they are available for preorder
33mm
35mm
36mm
38.5mm
41mm

https://messnermoto.com/product/motorcycle-cnc-clip-ons/









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Re: MessnerMoto - CB750 f2 - Some Parts are now available from build!!
« Reply #372 on: July 27, 2019, 08:28:12 PM »
The switches look amazing, but I’m a little confused by their function? Would I have to have an M-unit to make use of them. For example if I replaced my right hand switch, could it function as the start switch? And if I did, what would I use the other 2 switches for? Sorry if this is a dumb question
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« Reply #373 on: July 28, 2019, 03:01:33 AM »
The switches look amazing, but I’m a little confused by their function? Would I have to have an M-unit to make use of them. For example if I replaced my right hand switch, could it function as the start switch? And if I did, what would I use the other 2 switches for? Sorry if this is a dumb question

Thanks for compliments

the best is to use M-unit, but you can also use small relays. You can configure it as you wish... Usually people do it like this

top right - start
middle right - some digital functionality
lower right - turn light

top left - lights, low/high
middle left - siren
lower left - turn left

but like I said you can do it in many other configurations

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« Reply #374 on: July 29, 2019, 09:43:20 AM »
... One more thing

I am making custom triple tree for a customer. It is for CB500... Stock offset(45mm) for stock forks(35mm) and distance between forks 182mm.. If somebody wants this please DM me