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Offline hashvm

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Frame work and rust removing?
« on: July 31, 2015, 02:55:54 PM »
Hi all .. I hope you are enjoying your summer rides

So this week I decided to work on the frame and the wheels and basicly clear all the rust on them

I started by sanding some of the rust off the front wheel .. I've heard about steel wool cleaning? And since I'm gonna spray paint it anyway I'm not really concerned about the rough finish for now ..

My questions are:

1- Are there any sprays that I have to use as a coat for rust not to come again?

2- For frame work, What is the best way to get the rust off? should I just sand it?

Ride safe .. Hashem

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Re: Frame work and rust removing?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2015, 04:05:19 PM »
Looks like the rust on your wheels is just surface rust so far, that's good as it means the metal hasn't been eroded too badly.

You can buy "rust converter" sprays that will neutralize the rust and/or convert it to an inert form that you can then paint over safely.  Naval Jelly does the same thing, in paste form.

If you're going to be painting the rims, go ahead and hit them pretty good with some coarse paper, say 220 or 320 or so, to scuff up the remaining chrome really well, that'll be the main thing that causes you adhesion problems.

Eventually you'll want to replace those spokes, they don't look that great.  If you're planning on doing that, strip the wheels down and paint the rims separately before you reassemble with new spokes.  While you're at it you can then also inspect the INSIDE of the rim to see if there's any rust there, sometimes moisture can work it's way in between the tire and the rim and cause rot from the inside.

As far as the frame, rust removal is pretty much the same wherever you do it:  Mechanically remove any loose rust (sand it down), neutralize the remaining rust with a converter (the aforementioned spray/gel), repair any excessively degraded metal (weld if necessary) and then it's just finishing work (paint).

How badly rusted is the frame?

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Re: Frame work and rust removing?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2015, 06:06:10 PM »
Go get 0000 steel wool, it works pretty damn well at taking rust off chrome, and its cheap.

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Re: Frame work and rust removing?
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2015, 09:01:27 AM »
Looks like the rust on your wheels is just surface rust so far, that's good as it means the metal hasn't been eroded too badly.

You can buy "rust converter" sprays that will neutralize the rust and/or convert it to an inert form that you can then paint over safely.  Naval Jelly does the same thing, in paste form.

If you're going to be painting the rims, go ahead and hit them pretty good with some coarse paper, say 220 or 320 or so, to scuff up the remaining chrome really well, that'll be the main thing that causes you adhesion problems.

Eventually you'll want to replace those spokes, they don't look that great.  If you're planning on doing that, strip the wheels down and paint the rims separately before you reassemble with new spokes.  While you're at it you can then also inspect the INSIDE of the rim to see if there's any rust there, sometimes moisture can work it's way in between the tire and the rim and cause rot from the inside.

As far as the frame, rust removal is pretty much the same wherever you do it:  Mechanically remove any loose rust (sand it down), neutralize the remaining rust with a converter (the aforementioned spray/gel), repair any excessively degraded metal (weld if necessary) and then it's just finishing work (paint).

How badly rusted is the frame?

mystic_1

Mystic_1 .. Thank you very much
You're a savor! I got a lot of information from this

I'll try to follow this stricktly ..
As for the frame .. I would say it has surface rust in several places

Go get 0000 steel wool, it works pretty damn well at taking rust off chrome, and its cheap.

Fitzmotor .. I'll also try this
Thanks man!

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Re: Frame work and rust removing?
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2015, 11:41:12 AM »
The fine steel wool is too fine to get through that, it will just tear it up..
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Re: Frame work and rust removing?
« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2015, 11:52:46 AM »
Agreed, steel wool and similar techniques are good for "light to moderate spotting" (occasional flecks of rust on mostly-intact chrome) but what you've got there is more like "moderate to heavy surface rust" (total surface involvement, but no deep erosion).

The steel wool, aluminum foil, and similar tricks rely on the fact that the abrasive you're using will "skate" over the intact chrome and only "bite" into the places where the chrome is compromised.

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