Topic: Candy Gold Code(s) in Modern Auto Colours?

[Imago]

Well, it's time for paint on my 1976 CB750K build...

I'm thinking of Candy Gold. Does anyone know of a modern paint code that's equivalent?

A few pics of the powdercoated frame, new rims and spokes...

I found a local young fellow who polished all the engine bits and did a great job, check out those hubs! I had the front forks on before I found him, I may give him those too.

[Restoration Fan]

I bought my Candy Gold from VMR Paints.
http://www.vmrpaints.com/honda-cb.html

Click on the box and select 1976 under the CB750 grouping then select Candy Gold from the box on the right.
Scroll all the way to the bottom if you want to buy it in a rattle can.

[chewbacca5000]

Hey Imago,

Thanks for posting!  Looks like my supplier of choice now has candy gold concentrate and kits.

$138 for a kit.  This for 1 quart reduced which should yeild 1/2 gallon.

http://www.shop.thecoatingstore.com/EyeKandy-Kandy-Paint-Motorcycle-Paint-Kit-EKU-MOTOKIT.htm?categoryId=-1

This must be a new addition.  The color looks correct.  I had an original in my hand, and it is true gold not orange without flake like many of the photos show.

It was stored in the dark for 40 years so I know it really is gold.

[katman]

Ditto on VMR. Great match for my 75K

[chewbacca5000]

Ditto on VMR. Great match for my 75K

VMR is nice, but a little pricey if you ask me.

[chewbacca5000]

Sunset gold over silver  (This is how the oem tank looked)  Gold

sunset gold over white  (This is what most pictures look like)

[78whiteorbs]

I found a good one for a candy gold off an old jeep.
Was called Inca gold pearl.  Seen it up close next to an early candy gold cb350 (mine ) and it was an incredibly close match.

It was an old renegade with the bird on the hood but I think the newer Rubicons look close too.

[Imago]

Sunset gold over silver  (This is how the oem tank looked)  Gold

sunset gold over white  (This is what most pictures look like)

Thanks Chewy,
Are there codes to order the Candy Gold colour that I can give my painter?

Any other colours, ("colors" for you US folks, us Canucks like to add a "u" to many words) that I should consider?

[Garage_guy_chris]

I donno if the original poster has figured this out yet but I don't think there is anyone that can and will ship paint kits across the US Canada border. When i was painting mine last year I couldn't get any kits out of the states.

[Imago]

I donno if the original poster has figured this out yet but I don't think there is anyone that can and will ship paint kits across the US Canada border. When i was painting mine last year I couldn't get any kits out of the states.

Good to know... I didn't realize there were restrictions of this sort on shipping paint.

Sooooooo, are there codes I can give my painter to order the proper paint in Canada?

I'm leaning towards the Candy Gold, but I'm open to suggestions.

[dusterdude]

Ask someone here,who has a candy gold bike,to take it or a piece of it to an automotive paint store and ask to have it scanned,they will give you the paint number that the scanner picks up,then you can have your local store mix it

[Don R]

   there should be a paint match thread made somewhere. I have the candy blue green formula somewhere.

[RAFster122s]

The candy colors or flake paints are not convenient mix it in one can then throw in your reducer and hardner and spray.
You do understand that don't you?

Take for example the sunrise orange flake color.
starts with a silver base coat
Then a coat of flake and clear
Multiple layers of the orange candy color mixed in the clear to the proper ratio of candy color to clear. The more coats of candy the darker the color begins.
Then when the color is right it gets the several coats of clear

How much candy is enough is something experience provides...
That is why matching a candy later for side covers or the like takes a lot of skill.
Everything is painted at the same time because it is an involved paint job.

The candy gold is similar, just no flake.
Typical candy is a transparent paint with the color mixed in...
That's what gives it depth of color and properly done is gorgeous.

The jeep color just will not have any depth in comparison.

My $0.02

[dusterdude]

What he said

[CB_Jeff]

In defense of finding a modern base coat / clear coat that is close to an original candy job I really wanted to do the body work for my K6 Cafe in metallic sunrise orange, but had a hard time finding a shop that would lay down candy and the one place I found that would, quoted me a price of $1000 for all body work.  My work around was Mopar Toxic orange (2011).  It is not spot on but it is close enough for me.  All that being said, I am tempted to try that Rubicon color on a future build.  As for the cost, the base coat, clear coat Toxic orange job with materials came in at less than half the cost than the candy job.

[chewbacca5000]

Using and auto code is how how got a very close match for varnish blue.  As for scanners it is a crap shoot IMO.  Being able to see the final product is key to getting a good result.  It sucks you can't order the paint and have it shipped that would be the easiest.

It is a pretty straight forward paint job candy gold over silver base.  Find a darker gold would probably be better as you have a variety of shades from light to dark in between.

That is how I do it with the sun flake orange. I use tangerine concentrate.  This time around going with premix tangerine candy paint.  I got this paint job done to a science.

[Imago]

   there should be a paint match thread made somewhere. I have the candy blue green formula somewhere.

Yunno Don, I really like the Candy blue/green too. Would you be able to find the formula?

I'm tempted to buy the finished products from Yamiya:
http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=157_271_243&products_id=3174
but with our dollar so low, it works out to about 8 billion CDN, (slight exageration).

[jonda500]

The candy colors or flake paints are not convenient mix it in one can then throw in your reducer and hardner and spray.
You do understand that don't you?

Take for example the sunrise orange flake color.
starts with a silver base coat
Then a coat of flake and clear
Multiple layers of the orange candy color mixed in the clear to the proper ratio of candy color to clear. The more coats of candy the darker the color begins.
Then when the color is right it gets the several coats of clear

How much candy is enough is something experience provides...
That is why matching a candy later for side covers or the like takes a lot of skill.
Everything is painted at the same time because it is an involved paint job.

The candy gold is similar, just no flake.
Typical candy is a transparent paint with the color mixed in...
That's what gives it depth of color and properly done is gorgeous.

The jeep color just will not have any depth in comparison.

My $0.02

+1 ^^ What he said! - so far, here in Australia, I don't know of any place and have never heard of any place that can properly match these gorgeous candy colors that honda used in the 70's. These original colors will change with changing light sources and over time with exposure to sunlight giving the bike attractive highlights and 'patina'.   

[chewbacca5000]

Which of these do you guys like better?

or

[Imago]

I like the first one, the sunset gold over light gold. It looks deeper and richer.

Whether it's more accurate to the original or not is hard to say.

[chewbacca5000]

I like the first one, the sunset gold over light gold. It looks deeper and richer.

Whether it's more accurate to the original or not is hard to say.

+1 here.  That is exactly what I was thinking.  Deeper and richer.  A good candy imo should have light and shadows.

[Retro Rocket]

The candy colors or flake paints are not convenient mix it in one can then throw in your reducer and hardner and spray.
You do understand that don't you?

Take for example the sunrise orange flake color.
starts with a silver base coat
Then a coat of flake and clear
Multiple layers of the orange candy color mixed in the clear to the proper ratio of candy color to clear. The more coats of candy the darker the color begins.
Then when the color is right it gets the several coats of clear

How much candy is enough is something experience provides...
That is why matching a candy later for side covers or the like takes a lot of skill.
Everything is painted at the same time because it is an involved paint job.

The candy gold is similar, just no flake.
Typical candy is a transparent paint with the color mixed in...
That's what gives it depth of color and properly done is gorgeous.

The jeep color just will not have any depth in comparison.

My $0.02

+1 ^^ What he said! - so far, here in Australia, I don't know of any place and have never heard of any place that can properly match these gorgeous candy colors that honda used in the 70's. These original colors will change with changing light sources and over time with exposure to sunlight giving the bike attractive highlights and 'patina'.

There's a guy just down the road from me that does them mate, his paint work is second to none...

http://aceofsprays.com.au/category/honda-3/

[Stev-o]

The candy colors or flake paints are not convenient mix it in one can then throw in your reducer and hardner and spray.
You do understand that don't you?

Take for example the sunrise orange flake color.
starts with a silver base coat
Then a coat of flake and clear
Multiple layers of the orange candy color mixed in the clear to the proper ratio of candy color to clear. The more coats of candy the darker the color begins.
Then when the color is right it gets the several coats of clear

How much candy is enough is something experience provides...
That is why matching a candy later for side covers or the like takes a lot of skill.
Everything is painted at the same time because it is an involved paint job.

The candy gold is similar, just no flake.
Typical candy is a transparent paint with the color mixed in...
That's what gives it depth of color and properly done is gorgeous.

The jeep color just will not have any depth in comparison.

My $0.02

+1 ^^ What he said! - so far, here in Australia, I don't know of any place and have never heard of any place that can properly match these gorgeous candy colors that honda used in the 70's. These original colors will change with changing light sources and over time with exposure to sunlight giving the bike attractive highlights and 'patina'.

There's a guy just down the road from me that does them mate, his paint work is second to none...

http://aceofsprays.com.au/category/honda-3/

no doubt, his work looks amazing. Will he do yours?

[Retro Rocket]

The candy colors or flake paints are not convenient mix it in one can then throw in your reducer and hardner and spray.
You do understand that don't you?

Take for example the sunrise orange flake color.
starts with a silver base coat
Then a coat of flake and clear
Multiple layers of the orange candy color mixed in the clear to the proper ratio of candy color to clear. The more coats of candy the darker the color begins.
Then when the color is right it gets the several coats of clear

How much candy is enough is something experience provides...
That is why matching a candy later for side covers or the like takes a lot of skill.
Everything is painted at the same time because it is an involved paint job.

The candy gold is similar, just no flake.
Typical candy is a transparent paint with the color mixed in...
That's what gives it depth of color and properly done is gorgeous.

The jeep color just will not have any depth in comparison.

My $0.02

+1 ^^ What he said! - so far, here in Australia, I don't know of any place and have never heard of any place that can properly match these gorgeous candy colors that honda used in the 70's. These original colors will change with changing light sources and over time with exposure to sunlight giving the bike attractive highlights and 'patina'.

There's a guy just down the road from me that does them mate, his paint work is second to none...

http://aceofsprays.com.au/category/honda-3/

no doubt, his work looks amazing. Will he do yours?

Probably not Steve, I have a friend thats a custom painter, seeings though I'm not using stock colors there's no need to use the guy in the link...

[chewbacca5000]

That candy gold looks like it has a gold base and not silver.  Don't think anyone sells an original kit as the candy gold over silver base is kinda plain.

I know I had a NOS original in my hands.  Nice buy very gold.  Everyone seem to like warmer look.

Hey Retro,

Wait to you see my cb400f tank and sides.  I had my "guy" do them, and they came out great!

[RayWrangler]

Theirs a few guys on ebay that sell already painted complete parts. Might be an option. Than junk or sell your old tins


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[Imago]

Here are 3 versions of Candy Gold:

Sunset Gold over Silver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zMPlxIsrkM

Sunset Gold over White:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYNGhwCM6Hs

Sunset Gold over Light Gold:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDZ-LbJ0Zls

Which is closest to OEM?

Anyone have experience with these paints?

[itsahonda4]

I have a decent candy gold tank sitting in my garage, Ill take it to a local paintshop and get a code for you.
Im in Edmonton
How much did the kid charge you to polish your hubs? I might get him to do mine, thats a job I detest with a passion.......
Al

[Garage_guy_chris]

For Candy Blue Green I *think* 2016 BMW Long beach blue metallic found on X6 M and M2 may me good substitute for the original candy blue green, I have seen blue green in person and i have seen this long beach blue metallic just not beside each other but it looks close to me maybe someone with a blue green bike would visit their local BMW dealer with a side cover and compare side to side? I would if i had an example of blue green unfortunately i don't

[Imago]

I have a decent candy gold tank sitting in my garage, Ill take it to a local paintshop and get a code for you.
Im in Edmonton
How much did the kid charge you to polish your hubs? I might get him to do mine, thats a job I detest with a passion.......
Al

That's great! Much appreciated. My guy here in Regina charged $300.00 for polishing all the cases. A bargain AFAIC.

[Menno]

Candy colour is in fact a combination of a base coat and over is a see through (ink) layer.
The colour is determined by how much concentrate you add to the clear. As has been explained before in this topic.

There is no way to take an existing tank and get a code on candy, sorry.

So, I spray candy on Honda tanks for a living. (I'm sorry I'm in Germany, Europe)
These colours are simply not easy to replicate let alone spraypaint without any flaws.

I don't use paint kits, I mix the colours myself.
What might be interesting to know: the colours leaving the factory would have had differences as well on a day to day basis.
Same paint but different painter would already be enough to have a slight difference in colour.
So the painter on monday would do 2 thick layers with a wide beam and the next guy would spray a bit more careful and do three layers with a wide beam but with 5 centimeters further away from the tank. Colour looks about the same but mondays tank would not be the same as the tuesday tank. And that explains why a single aftermarket panel is always different and also why a complete set is worth so much more.

here some nice colours: http://www.tanklackieren.de/Honda-colours/