Topic: RE: Poor Man's ceramic coating

[chewbacca5000]

So yesterday while working on a K5 partial restore I had to figure out what to do with my poor exhaust colars that had rust on them.  After evaluating my options I decided to wire brush them, then I treated them with Rustoleum rust converter $2.50 Walmart, and follow up with Dupont silver ceramic caliper paint, and the results were amazing!

After baking in my oven at 385F for nearly an hour them came out with a very nice silver finish.  Not polished, but very attractive none the less.


What's more I repeated the process for the inside's of my 341 inside pipes and am very pleased.  Had no idea they would look this good.

A couple pics.

[Powderman]

Take a pic of them because they won't stay nice for long. You might get lucky because it was a "paint" and not a true ceramic. Nothing can be put on the part after blasting and ceramic coating without expecting failure of the adhesion of the product.

[chewbacca5000]

True ceramic is green and requires lots buffing and polishing after.  No one is going to see the inside and baking the stuff should help it stay put.  Time will tell.

[lrutt]

That caliper paint is not rated for the temps those exhaust collars will see. JetHot and the like is about the only thing that will take it. I've even had some re-chromed but it just doesn't last.

Sorry, don't mean to be negative, just that after 50 years of messing with bikes, I've tried it all and most all of it don't work.

Too bad they aren't aluminum collars, that would be the ticket.

[chewbacca5000]

I along with many other members have used the dupont silver ceramic caliper paint on head and jugs with good results.

[evanphi]

There's also engine block paint, meant for super high temps.

http://www.vhtpaint.com/products/engineenamel/

Available in every colour of the rainbow!

[chewbacca5000]

There's also engine block paint, meant for super high temps.

http://www.vhtpaint.com/products/engineenamel/

Available in every colour of the rainbow!

Everyone says a good bake is key to durability and getting good results.  I baked the collars to avoid the stink you always seems to get when you first start it up.

[flybox1]

Everyone says a good bake is key

true! 

[Davez134]

Everyone says a good bake is key

true! 

Ha! For sure.

[Powderman]

True ceramic is green and requires lots buffing and polishing after.  No one is going to see the inside and baking the stuff should help it stay put.  Time will tell.

Where did you hear it is green? It can made in many colors.

[Powderman]

That caliper paint is not rated for the temps those exhaust collars will see. JetHot and the like is about the only thing that will take it. I've even had some re-chromed but it just doesn't last.

Sorry, don't mean to be negative, just that after 50 years of messing with bikes, I've tried it all and most all of it don't work.

Too bad they aren't aluminum collars, that would be the ticket.

VHT caliper paint is good to 900*f, your collars never see those temps. They don't work because of poor prep.

[Powderman]

There's also engine block paint, meant for super high temps.

http://www.vhtpaint.com/products/engineenamel/

Available in every colour of the rainbow!

Your "super high temps" engine paint is only good for 550*, 350* less than the caliper paint.

[chewbacca5000]

True ceramic is green and requires lots buffing and polishing after.  No one is going to see the inside and baking the stuff should help it stay put.  Time will tell.

Where did you hear it is green? It can made in many colors.

Have you seen pictures of the aluminum is is sprayed green, and only gets shiny after going in the tumbler.

[Powderman]

True ceramic is green and requires lots buffing and polishing after.  No one is going to see the inside and baking the stuff should help it stay put.  Time will tell.

Where did you hear it is green? It can made in many colors.

Have you seen pictures of the aluminum is is sprayed green, and only gets shiny after going in the tumbler.

Pictures of the aluminum what?
the particular ceramic you used was green. You said "True ceramic is green". I assumed the "T" was capitalized because it was the beginning of a sentence, not a brand name. I shoot ceramic in about 5 different colors and none are green, even the Chromex or Cerakote that needs media blasting or tumbling to polish it to a chrome like finish. If those pipes were used and not blasted with a 360* nozzle inside the pipes nothing you put in there will stay for more than a few miles before it is blown off.

[chewbacca5000]

Sure would like to see some pictures of your ceramic coat if you have them.  How much you charge to do a set of 4 itno 4 anyway?

[Redline it]

awesome!! If you find that for a dollar more at a hardware store other than walmart I'll send you the dollar. Walmart sucks quite a bit and is taking down a lot with it.

[Chachi]

I've tried high temp rattle can spray on two different sets of headers with same results - both poor after a few weeks of riding. Rustoleum High Heat Ultra and VHT Flame Proof Header Primer and Paint. I'm going to get mine ceramic coated this winter and be done.

[Powderman]

Sure would like to see some pictures of your ceramic coat if you have them.  How much you charge to do a set of 4 itno 4 anyway?

4 into 4, probably $250-$300 for just the pipes/mufflers, heat shields extra.

[Chachi]

My local ceramic in south eastern Virginia is 200-250 for just the headers; I have slip on muffler.