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I am throwing in a total edit here;   Looking for pics of 73 CB750 Candy Bacchus Green or (after the link on Retro Rocket's post) 72 Briar Brown, the Briar brown would be best as the bike is a 72, and the Bacchus green is a 73 color.

So any pics of Briar Brown would be cool.

The pics posted with the green in the sunlight was super helpful, thats a great color that I just may do it even though it's not my year color.


Thanks. wow I kinda hijacked my own post.
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I think that has a metallic brown base coat.  Not sure about the green candy coat, or if it is green.

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candy gold w/ blue metallic basecoat  according to Lubri-Tech's (extinct) tech sheet

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That's the color, thanks, I wanted to verify it before I ran out and bought some paint.

It wont be the same formula but the aftermarket paint suppliers do a ok job of matching colors.

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After looking at that Yamia750.com site I want to get a look at the Briar Brown color as well, my bike is a 72 so Briar Brown was one of the available colors, I really like the green though, but it was a 73 color.

Thanks for the posts, the pics and the site were really helpful.

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I think that unless you are planning on keeping it for a long time the color choice would impact your buyers. The green is likely to bring much higher prices,  unless you are selling to a collector, then they will be interested in correct colors.
Basically, I would paint it which I liked,  but I don't flip bikes.
The green is a gorgeous color,  I am not a fan of the brown. But, it is probably rarer.
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For a 72 the orange and gold are always winners. Personally I think the Brier Brown was one of Honda's duller colors, not a rich brown like they used in 71, the Candy Garnet Brown.

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k2, original condition, 18,000 miles, still wearing its factory briar brown metallic Honda paint laid on 43 years ago.  I personally like this color.  Its looks classy, but its not a screaming in your face psychedelic 1970s paint color, it is more subtle. Chrysler corporation offered on their muscle cars what they called "high impact colors" in the late 60s early 70s with names like plum crazy purple, panther pink, go mango orange, and lime green to appeal mainly to younger buyers. If the old sohc fours are like Chrysler muscle cars, any color that is not a high impact color is frowned upon by enthusiasts.  This is ironic, especially in Chrysler muscle cars, because in reality, the high impact colors only represent a small percentage of the total muscle cars built by Chrysler.  The dirty little secret is Chrysler produced far more "normal colored muscle cars" than "high impact colored muscle cars." Most people seek a vintage car or vintage bike that says, not literally, "Hey, look at me, I am from the late 60s (or early 70s)." I love my briar brown HONDA. It is a nice having a vintage bike that isn't dated in its color, brown is kinda of a decade neutral color.  It is really quite fun when people look at my bike and I tell them it is a 1972.  I get that "deer in the headlights look" from them because in most people's mind the era of the early 70s is cars and bikes painted, loud in your face, oranges, purples, greens, etc. It's priceless, when they look dumbfounded and say, "1972, really?"   ;D   Justin in Texas
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For a 72 the orange and gold are always winners. Personally I think the Brier Brown was one of Honda's duller colors, not a rich brown like they used in 71, the Candy Garnet Brown.

Did you ever know: the 1971-72 Candy Garnet Brown was a repainted Green-over-[failed]-Red paint job that had failed as Red? There is also a version backward, originally touted as Candy Garnet Brown but later renamed Briar Brown, which was Red-over-[failed]-Green, showed up on mostly the K3. If you look closely at any of the brown ones, you will find the flaws that triggered the repaint, to "save" the tank.

My K2 was the Candy Garnet Brown: when my tank bag wore through the Green by 1979 the Red Candy underneath was plainly visible. I discovered the front leading sides of the tank had Red that was rubbed out (and apparently still didn't "make the grade") and there the Green was plainly dominant in the right light. But, the Vetter covered it, so I didn't care, then...When I got it repainted in 1979 I told the guy, "any color but Brown, Red, or Gold". He painted it gold...
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Here is my K3 color for you. This is original paint.
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1970 CB750K0 - Candy Ruby Red
1973 CB750K3 - Candy Bacchus Olive or Sunflake Orange
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I sure love that green, that's the color I had in mind all along, I wish it was a 72 color, I wish I could get a good sunlight pic of the brown, I know from a value standpoint I should paint a 72 bike a 72 color, I dunno, I guess I can figure it out after I get a good look at the brown.

Thanks for everybody's input so far.

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My 1972 k2 in briar brown metallic, I have to disclose that it has been resprayed.




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Beautiful hotdog! But I am biased.  ;D We should meet up sometime. Be fun to get some pictures of the twins together. Where do u live? Justin
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Hondaman, thanks for the insight on why brown was painted on these bikes. So interesting a screw up resulted in what I own, a briar brown metallic 750. How on earth did u learn this story about brown 750s? Justin
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Beautiful hotdog! But I am biased.  ;D We should meet up sometime. Be fun to get some pictures of the twins together. Where do u live? Justin
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I sure love that green, that's the color I had in mind all along, I wish it was a 72 color, I wish I could get a good sunlight pic of the brown, I know from a value standpoint I should paint a 72 bike a 72 color, I dunno, I guess I can figure it out after I get a good look at the brown.

Thanks for everybody's input so far.

Actually, Candy Bacchus Olive is a genuine factory 1972/K2 color and was found on the Japanese domestic market (JDM) CB750. The original part numbers for this color are in the JDM/CB750 parts book.     
     




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Thats the 1st picture I've seen of the brown in sunlight, thanks and beautiful bike.

So it was a Asian market color in 72, then the US or global market in 73, interesting, good info, thanks.

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hotdog,

Just found this you tube video that says "History of the Honda 750".
Not much of a history except for showing the different 750 colors.
What you're likely to be most interested in is at around 3:15 of the video.



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Havent been on here much lately, bike is in storage (inside and dry) at the moment (cross country move) but it still looks like this albeit a tad dirty. Oh, and the tank and sidecovers are off b/c they`re stored separate (mummified is more like it lol) to keep them safe/clean and dent/scratch free.

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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2015, 07:01:08 AM »
After trying to match Bacchus Green twice from my local paint store, and not wanting to spend 200.00+ on a pint from one of the few places who sell the exact color, the first green, I did a sample on a spare tank and thought NO, the second green I did the same thing and thought it was close, so I shot the bike, I liked it in sunlight, but it looked like metalflake Army Green.
 I even had the paint guy try the Briar Brown, at least I didn't have to buy that one, but in the end I gave up and just picked a newer Honda color, I know if I go to sell it will be a negative, but I can always do a color change later, I can get a pint of regular single stage for $21-$30 and compared to a car motorcycles are easy to paint.

Funny thing, now that it's blue I want to ride it more, or I should say being a color I like, I want to ride it more.

I'm sure I will get some haters or difference of opinion.

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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2015, 07:04:55 AM »
I do have to thank everybody who gave input on this, the pics were a great help in deciding which way I thought I wanted to go.

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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2015, 09:57:17 AM »
FWIW - I like the blue better too.
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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2015, 11:20:28 AM »
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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2015, 05:51:51 PM »
I like that green very nice.  Not sure what you mean by single stage?

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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2015, 09:06:13 PM »
Single stage paints do not use clear coats, the paint is glossy when sufficient coats are applied.  A two stage paint has a color shot and then the clearcoat. Then there are other paints such as a metal flake candy paint that requires a silver or white base coat, flake coat, candy coat and then clear.
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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2015, 11:21:37 PM »
Single stage paints do not use clear coats, the paint is glossy when sufficient coats are applied.  A two stage paint has a color shot and then the clearcoat. Then there are other paints such as a metal flake candy paint that requires a silver or white base coat, flake coat, candy coat and then clear.

Sorry mate but thats incorrect. Single stage paints are paints that are only One part {like the older acrylic and enamel paints} , unlike 2 pac paints, there is no hardener for single stage paint and it has nothing to do with clear coat. I would recommend clear coat over every paint job, good clear coats are fuel resistant, most single stage paints aren't. You can use clear over most single stage paints... ;)
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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2015, 11:54:10 PM »
Retro, I was trying to make the distinction between the single and two stage in that you get a glossy paint normally without having a clear coat on single stage.
An enamel,  acrylic enamel,  or acrylic paint with urethane hardner, or lacquer are some of the various single stage paints.

If you don't clear the two stage paint it won't hold up and it will be dull and the color is usually darker and it often doesn't look like the paint you thought you were spraying.  The clear  is a required component if the two stage paint system.
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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2015, 01:38:23 AM »
Retro, I was trying to make the distinction between the single and two stage in that you get a glossy paint normally without having a clear coat on single stage.
An enamel,  acrylic enamel,  or acrylic paint with urethane hardner, or lacquer are some of the various single stage paints.

If you don't clear the two stage paint it won't hold up and it will be dull and the color is usually darker and it often doesn't look like the paint you thought you were spraying.  The clear  is a required component if the two stage paint system.

Incorrect again mate... ;D ;D  2 stage or 2 pac paint is known for its gloss straight off the gun, single stage acrylic has to be sanded and buffed to bring out its shine, Metallic and pearl single pacs need a 2 pac clear coat, clear is definitely not what gives 2 pac its shine, for 2 pac, clear is more of a finish protectant and also gives depth to a finish, although, 2 pac paint is better wearing than any single stage paint.... , 2 pac solid colors don't need clear {i'm talking quality, UV stabilized automotive paints}, they are high gloss straight off the gun. Any paint that you have to add hardener to is a 2 stage or 2 pac finish, unless using enamel add, which promotes faster curing of single stage enamels. Im a painter, My trade is in 2 pac industrial finishes and single stage, uv stabilized poly urethanes ... ;)
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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2015, 06:45:39 PM »
Ok, however you want to refer to it, single stage solvent based urethane like I used, requires hardner and reducer, it is glossy right out of the gun, it is not as long lasting like a two stage paint, like most modern paint jobs are (basecoat/clearcoat) but single stage paints give better color and depth, and when you wax them the rag will turn the color of the paint, they are easier to touch up.
The only reason I have to color sand and buff, is to get them smooth as I shoot in my garage, you know dust and debris floating around.

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Re: Pics of 73 750 Bacchus Green or 72 Briar Brown (edit again) Went with Blue.
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2015, 09:39:37 PM »
The blue makes it look happy!
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