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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #325 on: January 07, 2017, 10:18:53 AM »
I had a few spare hours tonight and made some progress.

I followed the advice shared earlier and backed off all the stud bolts in the opposite order. I noticed my manual called for a light dose of motor oil on the threads, so I did that and proceeded to torque them all down. Seems like it pulled it a bit tighter than last time.



Next was installing the camshaft, tensioner and oil lines. I gave the camshaft journals a layer of assembly lube and finessed the cam chain sliders into place. That's when I realized my cam chain tensioner mechanism was seized. No wonder it was so noisy. A bit of penetrating oil and alternating pressure on the slider and the tensioner mechanism I got it to break free. It's nice and snappy now!



I timed the valves/camshaft, gave everything a little bath of oil then installed the cover. Set the valve clearance and the motor is ready to go!



I need to add oil (do NOT forget that...) drop in the carbs and exhaust, then fix my leaking petcock. Maybe 2-3 hours and I can fire it up


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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #326 on: January 07, 2017, 10:25:37 AM »
Yes, Fire it Up !  :)
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Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #327 on: January 10, 2017, 08:32:42 PM »


Took some effort but this happened tonight

The carbs are such a pain to get back on, but we managed. Throttle and clutch cables feel very stiff so i might have bodged the routing, or it's just the cold. The battery was dead, which was strange (stored it inside, charged) so had to charge it first.

Anyway, cranked it a few times to circulate the oil, and fired it up. It smoked like hell at first, but I sprayed the cylinders full of fogging oil the other day since I didn't know how long it would be till I started it. That burned off quick and now it's just the usual post rebuild white smoke. I took it outside and considered a quick ride but....well you can see the conditions in the video.

Good news is all four headers are hot and the engine is MUCH smoother sounding. No more cam chain rattle!


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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #328 on: January 10, 2017, 09:21:01 PM »
Yeah !  Victory  8)
Now you can heat it up running to full operating temp. and change the oil/filter to get the assembly lube out of the oil.
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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #329 on: January 10, 2017, 09:21:48 PM »
That is cool. Is that a fairing on your bike? I can hardly see it. Do you have more pics?

Thanks, Darren

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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #330 on: January 10, 2017, 09:32:07 PM »
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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #331 on: January 10, 2017, 11:12:29 PM »
It's ALIVE!
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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #332 on: January 11, 2017, 07:24:21 AM »
Thanks everyone!!  ;D ;D ;D

Lots more work to be done on this bike, but it sure feels good to hear the engine running again.

grcamna2 - I was wondering about the ramifications of assembly lube in the oil actually. Are there any? It sure is a gooey tacky substance. I guess it must get whipped up into the oil and diluted when the engine runs? I usually do my first post-rebuild oil change after taking it on a preliminary break-in ride, around 100km. Then a second change at 500km, at which point I return to normal oil change intervals. Would you suggest something different?


Darren Jakal - yes there is a small generic windscreen bolted to the bars. Personally I think it spoils the look of the bike, but my wife loves it and it's her bike so... If you scroll back a couple pages you can see a clear photo of the bike with the screen installed: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151078.225.html


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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #333 on: January 11, 2017, 07:37:46 AM »
WooHoo! You're braver than me taking it out in the snow.


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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #334 on: January 11, 2017, 07:42:24 AM »
Thanks Mark,

I can see it better on the other thread. Just looking for options on how to finish my ride and I am thinking about some kind of fairing at the moment.

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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #335 on: January 11, 2017, 07:45:54 AM »
Thanks everyone!!  ;D ;D ;D

Lots more work to be done on this bike, but it sure feels good to hear the engine running again.

grcamna2 - I was wondering about the ramifications of assembly lube in the oil actually. Are there any? It sure is a gooey tacky substance. I guess it must get whipped up into the oil and diluted when the engine runs? I usually do my first post-rebuild oil change after taking it on a preliminary break-in ride, around 100km. Then a second change at 500km, at which point I return to normal oil change intervals. Would you suggest something different?


Darren Jakal - yes there is a small generic windscreen bolted to the bars. Personally I think it spoils the look of the bike, but my wife loves it and it's her bike so... If you scroll back a couple pages you can see a clear photo of the bike with the screen installed: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,151078.225.html

Mark,
I have heard that assembly lube can clog the filter if left in there for a while;I had it almost completely block my filter/screen on a small single cylinder Honda when I once tried running it for the full break-in oil,that was Torco assembly lube.I personally learned my lesson on that even though there was no apparent damage..
I would change the oil and put in light break-in oil if it was my engine,imo.
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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #336 on: January 11, 2017, 08:01:44 AM »
Ah, crazy! Makes sense though, that stuff is real gooey. I didn't notice that in my filter on my 750 when I rebuilt the engine in October, but I wasn't exactly looking for it either...

I put in some Rotella T 15w-40 oil in, which is my normal choice. It's cheap and works well in these engines in my experience. I think I won't start the bike up again till the snow clears and I can actually ride it. I'd rather not have the engine sit idling so much, but rather take it on a short (maybe 20-30km), fast ride to start the break in and circulate the oil a bit, change the oil right after, then again at 100km.

Next project on the list is addressing the leaking petcock and fuel cap. I'll see about addressing that this weekend.

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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #337 on: January 11, 2017, 08:05:13 AM »
Ah, crazy! Makes sense though, that stuff is real gooey. I didn't notice that in my filter on my 750 when I rebuilt the engine in October, but I wasn't exactly looking for it either...

I put in some Rotella T 15w-40 oil in, which is my normal choice. It's cheap and works well in these engines in my experience. I think I won't start the bike up again till the snow clears and I can actually ride it. I'd rather not have the engine sit idling so much, but rather take it on a short (maybe 20-30km), fast ride to start the break in and circulate the oil a bit, change the oil right after, then again at 100km.

Next project on the list is addressing the leaking petcock and fuel cap. I'll see about addressing that this weekend.

I also use Rotella 15/40 and like it in warmer temps.(40 degrees F. & above)but I think lighter(10-30) oil for break-in works best,imo.
75' CB400F/'bunch o' parts' & 81' CB125S modded to a 'CB200S'
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Re: Frame-up cb350f restoration, hunk o' junk transformation
« Reply #338 on: January 11, 2017, 10:30:30 AM »
WooHoo! You're braver than me taking it out in the snow.


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Just drill in some screw heads into some nobbies and there you go -- snow/ice racer!  I like "recreational" snow.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold