Author Topic: Tapered Steering Bearings Thread (Read 208035 times)

lassenc · « **Reply #50 on:** March 27, 2006, 08:48:32 AM »

Is that the issue no matter which kind you go for?

crazypj · « **Reply #51 on:** March 27, 2006, 12:24:37 PM »

As far as I know its the same for all taper roller bearings where loose ball bearings were standard.
Its not a big deal, I make some 5mm spacer washers for mine out of alloy tube, shines up nice. I'll take a pic and post it when I get home(if I can find out how!)
PJ

jtb · « **Reply #52 on:** March 27, 2006, 06:35:07 PM »

I can't believe these K8 guys would admit that they actually did something to IMPROVE their bike. I thought (according to them) that a K8 couldn't be improved upon.

Quail "Owner of the comfortable k8" · « **Reply #53 on:** March 27, 2006, 10:15:56 PM »

I am sure the orig standard bearing felt as good when new I was just to cheap to get the oem part. I may swith back now that you brought that up. Damn I am back on this board after 2 months and someone is ragging my ride already. HAHA

eldar · « **Reply #54 on:** March 28, 2006, 08:20:34 AM »

Dont sweat it quail. They are just in shock that someone tried to modify perfection found in a K8.

crazypj · « **Reply #55 on:** March 28, 2006, 10:25:08 AM »

Heres a pic of spacer washer. you can also see the braided lines I made and the stainless pinch bolts, I taper turned the heads (trained as precision machinist, down to 6 micron total tolerance, single point machining, for those who know what that means) The paint isnt as bad as it looks, had to degrade image to be able to post it.
PJ

Quail "Owner of the comfortable k8" · « **Reply #56 on:** March 28, 2006, 08:50:17 PM »

Quote from: eldar, Master of the K8 Thunder! on March 28, 2006, 08:20:34 AM

Dont sweat it quail. They are just in shock that someone tried to modify perfection found in a K8.

Eldar Without reading 90 days of back post did you install tapers?

tg305 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 29, 2006, 08:18:37 AM »

I recently bought an "All Balls" tpaered steering head bearing kit for my 77 CB550K and was wondering if anyone has installed this kit on their model and if so.... which thickness shim (if any) was best suited to properly seat the bearings in the headset? It apperars to be a one size fits all application with the inclusion of the shims......Thanks Tim

CB500_k2 · « **Reply #58 on:** March 29, 2006, 12:56:57 PM »

I put an All Balls tapered bearing set on my CB500. I suspect the head design is similar to the CB 550. The first time I did it I thought the shim was to be used to assist driving the lower bearing onto the shaft. To my dismay, the lower triple tree contacted the frame in the area of the fork lock. I got a second bearing set ( hard to remover without damage) and used the shim which was about 3mm thick between the lower triple tree and the bearing. All went together well and has worked fine. Really great to get rid of the ball bearing detentes which develop over time with the OEM bearings.

bill440cars · « **Reply #59 on:** March 29, 2006, 03:02:30 PM »

Quote from: CB500_k2 on March 29, 2006, 12:56:57 PM

I put an All Balls tapered bearing set on my CB500. I suspect the head design is similar to the CB 550. The first time I did it I thought the shim was to be used to assist driving the lower bearing onto the shaft. To my dismay, the lower triple tree contacted the frame in the area of the fork lock. I got a second bearing set ( hard to remover without damage) and used the shim which was about 3mm thick between the lower triple tree and the bearing. All went together well and has worked fine. Really great to get rid of the ball bearing detentes which develop over time with the OEM bearings.

So, that brand of bearing kit works out pretty well? I've wondered because I've seen them on
ebay a few times. I've been thinking about bearings myself. Later on, Bill

Heirborn · « **Reply #60 on:** November 12, 2006, 04:43:23 PM »

I have educated myself on previous posts but have a question. I am installing tapered bearings on my '70 750. The new races are in. Washer is on stem and seal is on top of it. Should the new bearing slip on (mine will not) or will it have to be pressed on? If so what is the best/proper way to do that?

Bearings are the Japanese version that I purchased from Parts-N-More.

bryanj · « **Reply #61 on:** November 13, 2006, 07:55:48 AM »

Gentle tap on, not slide but not tight press either

crazypj · « **Reply #62 on:** November 13, 2006, 09:06:19 AM »

On later models which came with taper rollers stock, Honda recomends torquing to 36ft/lbs to seat bearingsthen adjusting by hand to get smooth operation
PJ

spitfire · « **Reply #63 on:** November 13, 2006, 10:30:37 AM »

There is an article in the FAQ by Hondaman (Thoughts of Hondaman) on steering head bearings, have a look.

Cheers

Den

doug_id · « **Reply #64 on:** November 14, 2006, 05:04:44 PM »

Well, I did a search on this topic but still a little confused on what I need to remove before installing the new bearings.

Do both metal pieces shown below in top stem view and bottom stem view need to come out or just the outermost piece(bearing race?).

Here are the pics....

top of stem....

bottom of stem....

If both need to come out do I just pound out with hammer and a wood/metal dowel?

Thx much!!!

seaweb11 · « **Reply #65 on:** November 14, 2006, 05:06:13 PM »

Bang em both out. Don't mar up the inside.

Jonesy · « **Reply #66 on:** November 14, 2006, 05:07:24 PM »

Use a brass drift and a hammer (one pop on each side at a time) and they'll pop right out.

doug_id · « **Reply #67 on:** November 14, 2006, 05:10:26 PM »

Cool....that's what I thought but wanted to make sure.

THX!

spitfire · « **Reply #68 on:** November 15, 2006, 04:25:29 AM »

May not help but these are the instruction I got with mine.

Cheers

Den

Brunow · « **Reply #69 on:** November 15, 2006, 05:04:17 AM »

I'm planning to place some new "bearings" would these be any good? (50€ts)

They say they improve general steering and reduce the vibration of your front wheel in high speed

bryanj · « **Reply #70 on:** November 15, 2006, 05:05:48 AM »

Might look like two pieces in each end but they are just machining marks

doug_id · « **Reply #71 on:** November 15, 2006, 06:16:39 AM »

Quote from: Brunow on November 15, 2006, 05:04:17 AM

I'm planning to place some new "bearings" would these be any good? (50€ts)

They say they improve general steering and reduce the vibration of your front wheel in high speed

Those are the ones I have as well. I am just prepping the frame for powder coating now so will not be installing them until that has been done.

Not quite sure what the washer/spacer does? Does it go in the bottom above the actual bearing?

Doug

spitfire · « **Reply #72 on:** November 15, 2006, 07:30:57 AM »

If you enter JOHNK6 into the search box and bring up "How to rescue a CB750 from the garbage dump" on page 3 there are some great photos of how to fit the bearings and where the spacer goes.

Cheers

Den

doug_id · « **Reply #73 on:** November 15, 2006, 12:02:48 PM »

Quote from: spitfire on November 15, 2006, 07:30:57 AM

If you enter JOHNK6 into the search box and bring up "How to rescue a CB750 from the garbage dump" on page 3 there are some great photos of how to fit the bearings and where the spacer goes.

Cheers

Den

Hey thx Den........wow that is some project that Johnk6 took on.

Here is a link direct to the page that shows the new bearings being installed.

http://www.sohc4.us/forums/index.php?topic=13258.30

doug_id · « **Reply #74 on:** November 15, 2006, 06:45:58 PM »

yes me again

Assume these parts on the bottom of the steering stem must go as well? Any hints for getting these off. Not much there to hit with a rod and hammer and then can only get to one side. It is on tight!

here is a pic......

Thx!
Doug

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