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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #150 on: July 21, 2018, 10:48:29 AM »
Often, advance springs have gotten weak causing too early advance, which can affect off idle performance.

I rechecked the advancer. There was the tiniest bit of slop in the springs at idle position. I bent the spring ends slightly to tighten them up. The gaps between the spring coils show they're now under tension, so I'll call this task done and set the timing again.



Can't test any of this today due to weather. Might as well pull the carbs...
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #151 on: July 21, 2018, 05:03:42 PM »
The clips for all needles are in the fourth slot from the top.

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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #152 on: July 21, 2018, 05:42:27 PM »
If I’m not mistaken, they should be second from top. The slot number is counted from tip, not top. The lower the clip, the richer the mixture.
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #153 on: July 21, 2018, 08:19:00 PM »
Are all your brass in the carb genuine K or is any aftermarket?
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #154 on: July 22, 2018, 01:59:20 AM »
If I’m not mistaken, they should be second from top. The slot number is counted from tip, not top. The lower the clip, the richer the mixture.
To add to your confusion HondaAddict this info has been around on this site for a while. I do not know of its source or authenticity.


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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #155 on: July 22, 2018, 08:32:09 AM »
If I’m not mistaken, they should be second from top. The slot number is counted from tip, not top. The lower the clip, the richer the mixture.

Thanks. If a lower clip position is richer (which makes sense), would raising them worsen my problem?

Are all your brass in the carb genuine K or is any aftermarket?

Yes, all new Keihin jets and other parts are from Honda carb rebuild kits.

To add to your confusion HondaAddict this info has been around on this site for a while. I do not know of its source or authenticity.

Thanks. I do recall seeing this before but hadn't looked at it recently. Now that I look again, I notice it says I should be running #40 slow jets. I'm running #38s, because the online parts fiches show #38s. I have a clean set of #40s. I wonder if I should give them a try?
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #156 on: July 22, 2018, 02:41:57 PM »
Level out your fuel, move your clips, install 40s. Re-synch the carbs. Ride and enjoy
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #157 on: July 23, 2018, 09:22:02 AM »
Hello Honda addict.

Just joined this forum and looked and read your restore of your 550. Awesome job to say the least.

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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #158 on: July 23, 2018, 02:47:00 PM »
Hello Honda addict.

Just joined this forum and looked and read your restore of your 550. Awesome job to say the least.

Thanks. And welcome to the forum!
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #159 on: August 02, 2018, 05:07:12 AM »



It was nice here Friday so I took my V65 Sabre for a 500 km run along twisty coastal roads. It's supposed to rain all weekend, so I'll get back to the real world and tackle this problem. Based on the helpful advice y'all have given me, here's my to-do list:


V65 Sabre is probably one of the best values in big bikes anywhere. You can buy one cheap, ride the daylights out of it and sell it for almost what you paid. Ive had mine for about 10 years and plan on wearing it out. In those years I've put about 45,000 miles on it (about 70 grand on the clock)and its been a pleasure to ride. My Magna has about 75,000 miles on it. They got a lot of bad press back in the day but those problems could be overcome and they have only left me stranded once and it was more my fault than the bikes. Yes they're a bit on the heavy side but that helps to make them great road bikes. They're not the fastest bikes on the road anymore but they can more than hold its own. After riding with several groups over the years I've had people ask me several times is, "What is that thing?"

...Back to the regularly scheduled program...

You sure did a great job on your restore. My CB750 is low miles but it wasn't stored the best for its life time. You are to be congratulated on your project. It sure came out nice! Problem is, you've raised the bar a little higher than I'll ever be able to clear. Well Done!
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #160 on: August 03, 2018, 04:39:54 AM »



It was nice here Friday so I took my V65 Sabre for a 500 km run along twisty coastal roads. It's supposed to rain all weekend, so I'll get back to the real world and tackle this problem. Based on the helpful advice y'all have given me, here's my to-do list:


V65 Sabre is probably one of the best values in big bikes anywhere. You can buy one cheap, ride the daylights out of it and sell it for almost what you paid. Ive had mine for about 10 years and plan on wearing it out. In those years I've put about 45,000 miles on it (about 70 grand on the clock)and its been a pleasure to ride. My Magna has about 75,000 miles on it. They got a lot of bad press back in the day but those problems could be overcome and they have only left me stranded once and it was more my fault than the bikes. Yes they're a bit on the heavy side but that helps to make them great road bikes. They're not the fastest bikes on the road anymore but they can more than hold its own. After riding with several groups over the years I've had people ask me several times is, "What is that thing?"

...Back to the regularly scheduled program...

You sure did a great job on your restore. My CB750 is low miles but it wasn't stored the best for its life time. You are to be congratulated on your project. It sure came out nice! Problem is, you've raised the bar a little higher than I'll ever be able to clear. Well Done!

Thanks! As you know, there are some incredible bikes and projects on this site, so I felt the bar was already unreachable for me. This truly is a great site to visit when you need inspiration.

And I couldn’t agree more about the Sabre and other V4s. They were years ahead of their time. They’re no longer king of the hill, but they’re still very impressive to ride. I had a friendly street drag with a Harley (don’t know what model) a few weeks ago and it wasn’t even close. I slowed down after about a half mile and he pullled up beside me, looked a couple of times at my side cover to figure out what I was riding, then gave me a thumbs up. These bikes get a great deal of respect from people who know about them. It’s a nice feeling to be cruising along the highway at 75 mph, listening to that low V4 rumble and knowing you have more torque at your disposal than you could ever need. My garage is getting full, but I can’t imagine ever parting with old “Sully”!
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #161 on: August 16, 2018, 10:03:48 PM »
Bump...rich condition solved moving needle clips?
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #162 on: August 20, 2018, 04:58:24 PM »
Bump...rich condition solved moving needle clips?
David

Thanks for asking. I haven't yet moved the clips. I've adjusted the floats (clear tube test shows all are now good) and installed new spark plugs. Still no joy. I've been busy with work so I haven't tried anything else, but I hope to move the needles in the next few days.

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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #163 on: August 23, 2018, 04:59:31 AM »



It was nice here Friday so I took my V65 Sabre for a 500 km run along twisty coastal roads. It's supposed to rain all weekend, so I'll get back to the real world and tackle this problem. Based on the helpful advice y'all have given me, here's my to-do list:


V65 Sabre is probably one of the best values in big bikes anywhere. You can buy one cheap, ride the daylights out of it and sell it for almost what you paid. Ive had mine for about 10 years and plan on wearing it out. In those years I've put about 45,000 miles on it (about 70 grand on the clock)and its been a pleasure to ride. My Magna has about 75,000 miles on it. They got a lot of bad press back in the day but those problems could be overcome and they have only left me stranded once and it was more my fault than the bikes. Yes they're a bit on the heavy side but that helps to make them great road bikes. They're not the fastest bikes on the road anymore but they can more than hold its own. After riding with several groups over the years I've had people ask me several times is, "What is that thing?"

...Back to the regularly scheduled program...

You sure did a great job on your restore. My CB750 is low miles but it wasn't stored the best for its life time. You are to be congratulated on your project. It sure came out nice! Problem is, you've raised the bar a little higher than I'll ever be able to clear. Well Done!

Thanks! As you know, there are some incredible bikes and projects on this site, so I felt the bar was already unreachable for me. This truly is a great site to visit when you need inspiration.

And I couldn’t agree more about the Sabre and other V4s. They were years ahead of their time. They’re no longer king of the hill, but they’re still very impressive to ride. I had a friendly street drag with a Harley (don’t know what model) a few weeks ago and it wasn’t even close. I slowed down after about a half mile and he pullled up beside me, looked a couple of times at my side cover to figure out what I was riding, then gave me a thumbs up. These bikes get a great deal of respect from people who know about them. It’s a nice feeling to be cruising along the highway at 75 mph, listening to that low V4 rumble and knowing you have more torque at your disposal than you could ever need. My garage is getting full, but I can’t imagine ever parting with old “Sully”!
I had one of those friendly runs with a Challenger the other day. It was one of those two lane turn lanes with the second lane merging into one. He was behind me so I don't know what kind it was but he decided he wanted to go around me before the lanes converged. I wasn't going to have any of that. I opened the magna up and pulled away. We gave each other the thumbs up as I was turning into my neighborhood.
I'll have to say, if there is a sleeper bike anymore its the magna. People just assume they are harleys so it's easy pickings. I still get, "what is that thing?"

My FIL said he raced a HD up this long hill years ago and got to about 90 by the top, that was on his (now mine) CB750, I said that I use that hill to see how my V4s are running. I should be about 120 by the top. "Your bikes will go that fast?" I said that's 4th gear, I got two more. I do enjoy the CB but when I have the urge to go fast, its on a V4.

I just love riding old bikes. I love the nostalgia and the sound of them. Nothing sounds like the CB with four pipes sticking out the back.

Time to go warm up the old iron for the trip to work. Question is, which one?
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #164 on: August 26, 2018, 09:20:30 PM »
So HondaAddict, whereabouts in Canada?  Great job on the resto!!  Looks stellar.  What paint did you use on the engine by the way?
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #165 on: August 27, 2018, 11:00:13 AM »

I had one of those friendly runs with a Challenger the other day. It was one of those two lane turn lanes with the second lane merging into one. He was behind me so I don't know what kind it was but he decided he wanted to go around me before the lanes converged. I wasn't going to have any of that. I opened the magna up and pulled away. We gave each other the thumbs up as I was turning into my neighborhood.
I'll have to say, if there is a sleeper bike anymore its the magna. People just assume they are harleys so it's easy pickings. I still get, "what is that thing?"

My FIL said he raced a HD up this long hill years ago and got to about 90 by the top, that was on his (now mine) CB750, I said that I use that hill to see how my V4s are running. I should be about 120 by the top. "Your bikes will go that fast?" I said that's 4th gear, I got two more. I do enjoy the CB but when I have the urge to go fast, its on a V4.

I just love riding old bikes. I love the nostalgia and the sound of them. Nothing sounds like the CB with four pipes sticking out the back.

Time to go warm up the old iron for the trip to work. Question is, which one?

Well said. The CB/Four sound wins for me, but the V4 power and torque are impressive. You'll have to take the FIL for a ride on a V4 so he can see what he's missing. :)
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #166 on: August 27, 2018, 11:04:01 AM »
So HondaAddict, whereabouts in Canada?  Great job on the resto!!  Looks stellar.  What paint did you use on the engine by the way?

Thanks! I used Dupli-Color Engine Enamel - code "CDE1615 Aluminum"

I'm in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #167 on: August 27, 2018, 04:29:48 PM »

I had one of those friendly runs with a Challenger the other day. It was one of those two lane turn lanes with the second lane merging into one. He was behind me so I don't know what kind it was but he decided he wanted to go around me before the lanes converged. I wasn't going to have any of that. I opened the magna up and pulled away. We gave each other the thumbs up as I was turning into my neighborhood.
I'll have to say, if there is a sleeper bike anymore its the magna. People just assume they are harleys so it's easy pickings. I still get, "what is that thing?"

My FIL said he raced a HD up this long hill years ago and got to about 90 by the top, that was on his (now mine) CB750, I said that I use that hill to see how my V4s are running. I should be about 120 by the top. "Your bikes will go that fast?" I said that's 4th gear, I got two more. I do enjoy the CB but when I have the urge to go fast, its on a V4.

I just love riding old bikes. I love the nostalgia and the sound of them. Nothing sounds like the CB with four pipes sticking out the back.

Time to go warm up the old iron for the trip to work. Question is, which one?

Well said. The CB/Four sound wins for me, but the V4 power and torque are impressive. You'll have to take the FIL for a ride on a V4 so he can see what he's missing. :)

Oooh.  Beauty is in the eye and ear of the beholder.  Personally, the sound, power and torque of a V4 are pretty compelling.  I wish Honda would make a V4 superbike and naked bike.  Unfortunately, they cost more to develop and mass produce than inline 4 engines.
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #168 on: August 31, 2018, 12:15:28 PM »
I wish Honda would make a V4 superbike and naked bike.

That sent me daydreaming about a retro-styled V65 Sabre, like Kawi did with the Z900RS. It could have a mighty V4, all the latest tech and a modern take on the first-gen Sabre look. Hey, a guy can dream.
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« Reply #169 on: August 31, 2018, 12:29:20 PM »
I wish Honda would make a V4 superbike and naked bike.

That sent me daydreaming about a retro-styled V65 Sabre, like Kawi did with the Z900RS. It could have a mighty V4, all the latest tech and a modern take on the first-gen Sabre look. Hey, a guy can dream.

I know.  For the last however many years, rumors have been coming and going on Honda producing a V4 sport bike, since they stopped making the VFR sport (not touring) bikes.  I would love one.
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #170 on: September 02, 2018, 06:59:52 PM »
This is my last hijack of your thread.

These are my daily riders.

There are others in various stages of restore but these are the runners/riders.
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #171 on: September 03, 2018, 07:13:37 AM »
This is my last hijack of your thread.

These are my daily riders.

There are others in various stages of restore but these are the runners/riders.

Very nice! Lots of musclebike muscle there! Is that a Corbin seat on the Sabre?

I've been keeping an eye out for an early Interceptor as a future project. I was in love with them when they first came out but I was in university and money was tight.
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #172 on: October 21, 2018, 06:53:23 PM »
Any updates on your 550?
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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #173 on: December 16, 2018, 04:32:13 PM »
I threw together a video slideshow of this project a while back and just got around to uploading it to YT. Here it is for anyone looking to waste 10 minutes.

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Re: 1975 CB550K Restoration
« Reply #174 on: November 27, 2021, 09:57:10 AM »
I was browsing the 2,800 photos I have from this project and decided to make a series of more detailed videos. I hope to do one for each major phase/assembly.

Here's my shameless plug for the first one:  :)



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1976 Honda CB400F
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2008 Honda GL1800AL
2016 Honda CB500F
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