Poll

Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?

NO
16 (51.6%)
YES
13 (41.9%)
I do not have enough facts to make a real vote
0 (0%)
I am a fish head and have no opinon
2 (6.5%)

Total Members Voted: 25

Author Topic: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?  (Read 3184 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ElCheapo

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 556
    • Anubis Cycle
Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« on: February 15, 2007, 05:17:21 PM »
After 2 days of listening to the "Talking Heads" - Congress, via the NPR live feed I have to ask this question. My only opinon is that to subdue a hornets nest after you have nailed it is not to put a bigger stick in it.

Tell all of us how you feel.

I can say from being a former soldier in country, bringing more tropps in can and will provoke a bigger and more ruthless response from the enemy. No I do not feel that we should beat feet and run like hell. But more soldiers lives? - There has to be a better way.

This comes from covering foot troops from a sniper position. Losses of any sort on our side where unacceptable.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2007, 06:07:10 PM by ElCheapo »
Contact me for affordable rotor drilling services at $55 each rotor. Same day service on CB750/CB500/CB550 rotors. Next day on everything else.

Offline Hockers Choppers

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 544
  • go away winter!!!
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2007, 05:40:16 PM »
I have a very good friend and a brother in law that just arrived in iraq last week. I don't know what to think of this "war" but I support them 100% and am very proud of them as well as all vets!! Thank You all!!!
The thing about common sense is that, it's not that common.

1978 CB750F SUPERSPORT 850cc, cam, porting, dyna ign, cr29's lotsa elbow grease and $$'s. Worth ever penny!!  (S0ld)

05 VTX1800F darkside
cb750 k1

Offline heffay

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,874
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2007, 05:54:25 PM »
we need to contain the borders and get the F out of iraq.  oh, i mean get the soldiers out of iraq!  we don't need to fight the war because it is not ours but, we can protect others from it spreading. 
do we need more soldiers for that... doubt it
the way my money is being spent so foolishly also bothers me to no end.  i don't remember swiping my card for all those crazy guns and grenade launchers and heli-planes i've seen on discovery recently. 
but, my strong disagreement w/ any type of non-peaceful tactic biases my response to this question drastically. 
no more troops.

Today: '73 cb350f, '96 Ducati 900 Supersport
Past Rides: '72 tc125, '94 cbr600f2, '76 rd400, '89 ex500, '93 KTM-125exc, '92 zx7r, '93 Banshee, '83 ATC250R, 77/75 cb400f

Offline boatsdickson

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 673
  • 1978 836 K8
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2007, 12:13:39 PM »
Couldnt this be done a little more in the sniper fashion? If we're there in huge numbers to defeat the evil whoevers, and to rebuild the towns that were rough before we even got there, and to give a whole new government a chance, while taking casualties from the citizens that we just gave a water and a candy bar to,to,to,to,... If a surge is needed, lets surge and focus on the priority, or back out and switch to long range survielance and death from above smart weapons from a radar/laser safe distance. If we are pretty confident the retaliations are coming for what we're doing or not doing, lets protect and prepare here, and one bomb - big kill there. (Not the nuke kind.) Shoot I saw a fella this mornin that could have got a water and a burger here. He got one too...
"No. We're all our own prisons, we are each all our own wardens and we do our own time. I can't judge anyone else. What other people do is not really my affair unless they approach me with it. Prison's in your mind. Can't you see I'm free"?  Testimonial of Charles Manson

holysmokes

  • Guest
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2007, 12:25:59 PM »
troops are surging in the wrong dirction, they should be heading west, not east

"weapons of mass destruction"

its pretty bad when a "democracy" needs to use false reports to invade a country and kill civilians

bad enough that it happened on 9/11

but i guess in order to beat a terrorist , you need to create your own terrorism [sic]

Offline Hockers Choppers

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 544
  • go away winter!!!
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2007, 04:23:13 PM »
The troops are there to protect the Iraq citizens, not destroy an enemy. So, yes they will take a lot of hits. I guess we could just f'n drop the big one on them and end the whole damn thing!! They have been killing each other for 400 years and aren't going to stop because we're there.

BUT....what do We do?

Try and do something about it?

Or sit back and #$%* that no one tried to help them?
The thing about common sense is that, it's not that common.

1978 CB750F SUPERSPORT 850cc, cam, porting, dyna ign, cr29's lotsa elbow grease and $$'s. Worth ever penny!!  (S0ld)

05 VTX1800F darkside
cb750 k1

holysmokes

  • Guest
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2007, 06:42:32 PM »
so do we bankrupt our own country, trying to fix another, we cant even fix or run our own

they are born, raised and taught to die for their beliefs, why and how do we need to change their religion

you cannot change a society with war and forced takeovers

forced democracy isnt democracy, its slavery and communism

after 9/11, the secret service could and should of, with a joint effort from all UN countries, taken out Bin Laden

thats the wise way, not shock and awe, killing civilians for revenge

Offline Hockers Choppers

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 544
  • go away winter!!!
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2007, 08:20:16 PM »

         http://www.flashdemo.net/gallery/wake/index.htm
HEY CANDADA..WHERE WERE YOU WHEN WE NEEDED HELP??????? DON'T #$%* NOW!! IF YOU'D HAVE STEPED UP, YOU WOULD HAVE A REASON TO #$%*, SO SHUT THE FUC# UP!!!! WE ARE OVER THERE TO PROTECT, NOT KILL! GET YOU FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU SPILL CRAP!!!
The thing about common sense is that, it's not that common.

1978 CB750F SUPERSPORT 850cc, cam, porting, dyna ign, cr29's lotsa elbow grease and $$'s. Worth ever penny!!  (S0ld)

05 VTX1800F darkside
cb750 k1

holysmokes

  • Guest
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2007, 05:36:54 AM »
i wondered when the apples would drop

we are peacekeepers, not killers, shut up..uh uh

free speech, its in your bill of rights..is it not?

i have an opinion, and you going nuts wont change it..bombing a city at night is not protectingm its killing

turn off your caps, yelling isnt any help

Offline Bob Wessner

  • "Carbs Suck!"
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,079
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2007, 05:47:14 AM »
Obviously this is another topic that can elicit strong feelings. No problem with that, let's just exercise some judgement on how we express them verbally to on another.
We'll all be someone else's PO some day.

holysmokes

  • Guest
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2007, 05:49:31 AM »
rightly so, thank you

Offline Hockers Choppers

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 544
  • go away winter!!!
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2007, 12:42:25 PM »
IF CAPITAL LETTERS OFFEND YOU, YOU NEED TO GO SEE A THEARAPIST!! THIS SITE HAS A LOT OF OFFENSIVE PEOPLE IN IT AND YOUR FEELING MIGHT GET HURT :'( :'( :-*.

If someone came into YOUR country, terrorized and killed people because of your religion and the US did nothing to help, would you say thats OK as long as my gas price doesn't go up?

My friend and brother in law are over there for convoy escort. They get shot at everyday just to keep people safe. They aren't waiting for the sun to go down to shoot up people in their sleep!

Plus, the war has nothing to do with the price of fuel. The refinery's are over flowing with gas! There is no shortage in the US. I think it is just an excuse to price gouge!!
The thing about common sense is that, it's not that common.

1978 CB750F SUPERSPORT 850cc, cam, porting, dyna ign, cr29's lotsa elbow grease and $$'s. Worth ever penny!!  (S0ld)

05 VTX1800F darkside
cb750 k1

holysmokes

  • Guest
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2007, 02:43:52 PM »
never mentioned gas prices, most of that problem is being fueled by kyoto, asnd enviormental concerns

my nephew is in training now, there has been canadian soldiers  shot or bombed . sometimes by americans


i dont harbour ill will towards americans, actually canadians and americans are from the same motherlands

this conflict is not a war on terror, it is all about beliefs

9/11 was wrong, canadians were killed as well. but bush didnt respond correctly, bin laden should of been taken out undercover, as well as his terrorist followers

not all muslims are terrorists, how many are american citizens?or canadians?

your caps dont offend me, its all part of internet courtesy and manners

Im not here to argue,

Offline Hockers Choppers

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 544
  • go away winter!!!
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2007, 03:10:18 PM »

9/11 was wrong, canadians were killed as well. but bush didnt respond correctly, bin laden should of been taken out undercover, as well as his terrorist followers

Agree 100%!!! but the US doesn't do that for some reason.

not all muslims are terrorists, how many are american citizens?or canadians?

That scares the Hell out of me!!

Im not here to argue,

Someone here has a quote that says, " arguing on the internet is like running at the special Olympics, even if you win your still a retard!" I'm sorry that isn't politically correct, but very true.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2007, 03:13:46 PM by Hockers Choppers »
The thing about common sense is that, it's not that common.

1978 CB750F SUPERSPORT 850cc, cam, porting, dyna ign, cr29's lotsa elbow grease and $$'s. Worth ever penny!!  (S0ld)

05 VTX1800F darkside
cb750 k1

holysmokes

  • Guest
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2007, 03:14:46 PM »
tsk tsk

name calling again

peace out :)

Offline Hockers Choppers

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 544
  • go away winter!!!
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2007, 03:19:23 PM »
 :'( :'( :'( :'( ::) ::) :-* :-\
The thing about common sense is that, it's not that common.

1978 CB750F SUPERSPORT 850cc, cam, porting, dyna ign, cr29's lotsa elbow grease and $$'s. Worth ever penny!!  (S0ld)

05 VTX1800F darkside
cb750 k1

Offline Stu400

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 50
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2007, 03:28:48 PM »
As a Brit ( and we have a few guys over there) it seems to be dragging on a long time. We cant run their country for them, and yet they dont seem to be able to run it themselves. ???

Offline Hockers Choppers

  • Hot Shot
  • ***
  • Posts: 544
  • go away winter!!!
Re: Should there be a "surge" of US troops in Iraq?
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2007, 03:32:30 PM »
exactly, but what do we do? Cut our losses and let it go back to worse than it was or keep trying?
The thing about common sense is that, it's not that common.

1978 CB750F SUPERSPORT 850cc, cam, porting, dyna ign, cr29's lotsa elbow grease and $$'s. Worth ever penny!!  (S0ld)

05 VTX1800F darkside
cb750 k1