Author Topic: CB550 rocker cover screws  (Read 2012 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline separatist

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 76
CB550 rocker cover screws
« on: November 28, 2015, 01:23:31 PM »
Okay, cracking open a CB550 engine after 41 years. Are these machines great or what? Anyway, I've successfully removed the rocker cover bolts and 6 of the 8 screws. The other two... I just can't get them, leaning with all my weight over the ratchet, turning gently, full body turn... they just won't go and are in danger of being fully stripped. Options? Cut a notch? I hate to drill...


Offline minimo

  • Expert
  • ****
  • Posts: 1,202
  • 1977 CB550F 1975 CB400F 1959 Ducati 200 Americano
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2015, 01:47:30 PM »
Have you tried soaking them with PB Blaster (or any other loosening lube like WD-40)? A torque screwdriver should get them out (either drill or hammering type). A Grabit Pro bit will definitely do the job if you intend on replacing those screws anyway. Some heat on the thread area might loosen them up too.

Offline calj737

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,072
  • I refuse...
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2015, 01:54:15 PM »
They are not Phillips screws, they're JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) and use a very different bit. As those are now badly stripped, drill the head off and then remove the cover (remember to release the valve tension first!) and then turn the remaining shanks out by hand.
'74 550 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=126401.0
'73 500 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132935.0

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of it's victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

Offline mrbreeze

  • Not your average
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,902
  • Shut up when you're talkin' to me!!
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2015, 02:08:06 PM »
Impact driver or if you can get your hands on an air hammer.....better yet. Put anti seize on the new screws and consider going to allen heads.
MEMBER # 257
Fool me once..shame on you. Fool me twice..I'm kickin' your a$$......

Offline Zaipai

  • I am getting closer to being an
  • Old Timer
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,400
    • My Home page
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2015, 02:43:52 PM »
They are not Phillips screws, they're JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) and use a very different bit. As those are now badly stripped, drill the head off and then remove the cover (remember to release the valve tension first!) and then turn the remaining shanks out by hand.
Yes this is the best way and they are JIS #3 bits if you can find one you can try that but calj737 has the best solution so far.

Sent from my TT89K4432 using Tapatalk

Its my Avatar..

75 CB550F  | 


Offline separatist

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 76
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2015, 02:55:00 PM »
Thanks all. First time on a Japanese instead of Italians and Germans. JIS? Replacing with torx...

Offline calj737

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,072
  • I refuse...
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2015, 03:15:50 PM »
Almost all of the "cover" screws are 6mm/1.0 pitch. You can sift thru the parts fiches and find exact lengths for each and every screw in case you get mixed up. Apply a dab of antisieze pin re-install and you'll be golden!
'74 550 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=126401.0
'73 500 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132935.0

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of it's victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

Offline Pan1cReaper

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 112
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2015, 07:41:20 PM »
Impact driver or if you can get your hands on an air hammer.....better yet. Put anti seize on the new screws and consider going to allen heads.

Just curious, but what would you do with an air hammer to those little screws???

Offline mrbreeze

  • Not your average
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,902
  • Shut up when you're talkin' to me!!
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2015, 10:00:25 PM »
Loosen them up. I've had stubborn screws that wouldn't come out with a driver. I'm not saying to go to town on it with the hammer but it's worked for me lots of times.
MEMBER # 257
Fool me once..shame on you. Fool me twice..I'm kickin' your a$$......

Offline calj737

  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 21,072
  • I refuse...
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2015, 05:05:04 AM »
Just curious, but what would you do with an air hammer to those little screws???
An Impact Hammer is not an air-driven tool, its an elbow-driven tool. Essentially, its a large screwdriver that accepts a hammer blow, then as you apply down pressure during the blow, you/it "twist" the screw as an unlocking motion. Here's an example:
http://www.tooltopia.com/otc-tools-4607.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=paid_search_google_pla&scid=scplp7025328&gclid=CLDlvY7ZtckCFYIlHwodMoUEoQ
'74 550 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=126401.0
'73 500 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132935.0

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of it's victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

Offline Pan1cReaper

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 112
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2015, 02:09:55 PM »
I have enough experience beating an impact driver, if that's what you mean instead of impact hammer. The quote says air hammer. Thanks though!

Offline mrbreeze

  • Not your average
  • Really Old Timer ...
  • *******
  • Posts: 5,902
  • Shut up when you're talkin' to me!!
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2015, 06:31:37 PM »
I said AIR hammer! You don't just reef on it. Usually a couple of quick blasts will loosen up a stuck screw. Cal is showing a picture of an impact driver although I'm not familiar with that type.
MEMBER # 257
Fool me once..shame on you. Fool me twice..I'm kickin' your a$$......

Offline Pan1cReaper

  • Enthusiast
  • **
  • Posts: 112
Re: CB550 rocker cover screws
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2015, 10:09:20 AM »
I've used one on larger stuff, I guess you could carefully tap it a few times. I'd be afraid I'd knock the head of the screw off! I see what you're saying though.