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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #375 on: August 30, 2015, 06:31:03 PM »
awesome drawings,my skills end with a smily  :-[
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #376 on: August 30, 2015, 08:07:34 PM »
Easy to imagine on paper, uwe. Hard to make in reality back to my current project for now.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #377 on: August 30, 2015, 09:32:57 PM »
Your drawings remind me of this Triumph a little, which certainly isn't be a bad thing.
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« Reply #378 on: August 30, 2015, 09:46:37 PM »
Quote from: Bootsey on August 30, 2015, 09:32:57 PM
Your drawings remind me of this Triumph a little, which certainly isn't be a bad thing.

Definite compliment, ive been looking at that one for inspiration, though im imagining a fuller half-fairing. I love the all metal look of that one though

The Flying J 550 is also a great source of inspiration. But the lines are a bit leaner than the slightly more muscled flavor im looking for.
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #379 on: September 06, 2015, 05:34:27 AM »
Got around to converting to double disc up front. Didnt seem to need to file down the lower mount as others have had to but i did need to shim about 3 mm on the top mounts. Ran outa daylight before i got some fluid running through but fit up seems ok.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #380 on: October 16, 2015, 08:08:13 AM »
Holy Cow, man!  I cannot believe you took that horrible pile of crap and turned it into such a beautiful machine!  I honestly would not have touched that bike based on the before picture.

I'm not on here that frequently any more, but I'm very sorry I missed this build until now, Paolo.

Did you ever sort out your tuning issues?  I see that you are working with a 76 and you have a whole different set of parameters (reverse cone exhaust, single pod intake, 3mm bored cylinders, etc.), but the basic steps to jetting are always the same.  I did a bunch of work tuning my old 77 (with different, lean-burn carbs than yours) for the coolest running cylinder head temps with an infra-red thermometer.  Do you have access to one?  They are pretty cheap lately.  Have a look at the link in my signature for more tuning info.  Mind you, "The Right Way" is to do it on a dyno with an exhaust gas analyzer, but I didn't want to lay out the coin for that.

Great Job!!!!
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #381 on: October 16, 2015, 12:41:43 PM »
Quote from: P.abrera on September 06, 2015, 05:34:27 AM
Got around to converting to double disc up front. Didnt seem to need to file down the lower mount as others have had to but i did need to shim about 3 mm on the top mounts. Ran outa daylight before i got some fluid running through but fit up seems ok.


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Looks so good i am doing a 550 front end swap on my cb350f with the KZ wheel.  ;D  I have a couple of questions if you don't mind.  Are you using the 550 front axle? Did you have to make or use any spacers?  Also, i am guessing you are using the KZ speedo drive?
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« Reply #382 on: October 18, 2015, 05:36:55 AM »
Quote from: edbikerii on October 16, 2015, 08:08:13 AM
Holy Cow, man!  I cannot believe you took that horrible pile of crap and turned it into such a beautiful machine!  I honestly would not have touched that bike based on the before picture.

I'm not on here that frequently any more, but I'm very sorry I missed this build until now, Paolo.

Did you ever sort out your tuning issues?  I see that you are working with a 76 and you have a whole different set of parameters (reverse cone exhaust, single pod intake, 3mm bored cylinders, etc.), but the basic steps to jetting are always the same.  I did a bunch of work tuning my old 77 (with different, lean-burn carbs than yours) for the coolest running cylinder head temps with an infra-red thermometer.  Do you have access to one?  They are pretty cheap lately.  Have a look at the link in my signature for more tuning info.  Mind you, "The Right Way" is to do it on a dyno with an exhaust gas analyzer, but I didn't want to lay out the coin for that.

Great Job!!!!

Thanks man, i appreciate the positive comments. Further tuning on the bike is on the back-burner and its been moth-balled for a few weeks, some changes at work are taking priority at the moment but ill be back to it once the smoke clears IR thermometer tip is solid, will look into it
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #383 on: October 18, 2015, 05:39:30 AM »

Quote from: knowsnothing on October 16, 2015, 12:41:43 PM
Quote from: P.abrera on September 06, 2015, 05:34:27 AM
Got around to converting to double disc up front. Didnt seem to need to file down the lower mount as others have had to but i did need to shim about 3 mm on the top mounts. Ran outa daylight before i got some fluid running through but fit up seems ok.


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Looks so good i am doing a 550 front end swap on my cb350f with the KZ wheel.  ;D  I have a couple of questions if you don't mind.  Are you using the 550 front axle? Did you have to make or use any spacers?  Also, i am guessing you are using the KZ speedo drive?

Used the kz wheel/axle/speedo drive as is on the 550 fork, so far no problems. Make sure you use a speedo with the correct ratio though to get an accurate reading.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #384 on: October 18, 2015, 05:51:15 AM »
Quote from: P.abrera on September 06, 2015, 05:34:27 AM
Got around to converting to double disc up front. Didnt seem to need to file down the lower mount as others have had to but i did need to shim about 3 mm on the top mounts. Ran outa daylight before i got some fluid running through but fit up seems ok.


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Nice build man.
I can Pimp those Rotors for you if you'd like:
http://www.vinmoto.org/gallery/v/VinMoto-Garage/album03/Godfferys-Garage-123/Parts+and+service/
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« Reply #385 on: October 18, 2015, 05:54:56 AM »
Quote from: Godffery on October 18, 2015, 05:51:15 AM
Quote from: P.abrera on September 06, 2015, 05:34:27 AM
Got around to converting to double disc up front. Didnt seem to need to file down the lower mount as others have had to but i did need to shim about 3 mm on the top mounts. Ran outa daylight before i got some fluid running through but fit up seems ok.


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Nice build man.
I can Pimp those Rotors for you if you'd like:
http://www.vinmoto.org/gallery/v/VinMoto-Garage/album03/Godfferys-Garage-123/Parts+and+service/

Ive seen the goods

Id be all over your service if i was stateside

Keeping it in mind for the next build. Hopefully with a bit more budget to spend.

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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #386 on: October 18, 2015, 01:00:29 PM »
 Well you did one heck of a job bring that bike back to life!
It sure looked pretty far gone!
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #387 on: December 19, 2015, 05:46:29 AM »
Quote from: P.abrera on March 13, 2015, 11:32:46 PM
Sorted my oil cooler plumbing. Lines are an inch longer than i needed though my fault, mismeasured

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hi paolo, was it really necessary to install an oil cooler? was there a significant difference? if so, what conversion/mods and parts does one have to get? where was your oil cooler from originally?

TIA!
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #388 on: December 19, 2015, 02:40:16 PM »
Quote from: P.abrera on June 15, 2015, 04:07:58 PM
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Some nice images!

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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #389 on: December 19, 2015, 10:11:38 PM »

Quote from: cocinero196 on December 19, 2015, 05:46:29 AM
Quote from: P.abrera on March 13, 2015, 11:32:46 PM
Sorted my oil cooler plumbing. Lines are an inch longer than i needed though my fault, mismeasured

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hi paolo, was it really necessary to install an oil cooler? was there a significant difference? if so, what conversion/mods and parts does one have to get? where was your oil cooler from originally?

TIA!

I dont know if it was "necessary" but i figured it couldnt hurt given our hot climate and traffic conditions. For a four-season country an oil cooler might work against you in the cooler months though (oil might not get up to working temp). I used a nighthawk cooler and an spin-on oil filter conversion plate from cycle-X plus some NPT braided hoses that i had made up


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #390 on: December 19, 2015, 10:12:06 PM »

Quote from: Zaipai on December 19, 2015, 02:40:16 PM
Quote from: P.abrera on June 15, 2015, 04:07:58 PM
Some vanity shots from last weekend


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Some nice images!

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Thanks man


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #391 on: December 19, 2015, 10:46:52 PM »
An oil cooler might come in handy in the Philippines.
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #392 on: December 20, 2015, 12:00:41 AM »
Quote from: P.abrera on December 19, 2015, 10:11:38 PM

I dont know if it was "necessary" but i figured it couldnt hurt given our hot climate and traffic conditions. For a four-season country an oil cooler might work against you in the cooler months though (oil might not get up to working temp). I used a nighthawk cooler and an spin-on oil filter conversion plate from cycle-X plus some NPT braided hoses that i had made up

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It looks OEM, nice and clean install! Very impressive! ;)
Btw, I found this...http://www.5thgearparts.com/products/1984-honda-cb550-nighthawk-oil-cooler
Is this the same as yours and would the adaptor on this work on a '77 CB550?
May I know the size of the NPT hose that you used?

TIA!
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« Reply #393 on: December 21, 2015, 03:01:47 PM »

Quote from: cocinero196 on December 20, 2015, 12:00:41 AM
Quote from: P.abrera on December 19, 2015, 10:11:38 PM

I dont know if it was "necessary" but i figured it couldnt hurt given our hot climate and traffic conditions. For a four-season country an oil cooler might work against you in the cooler months though (oil might not get up to working temp). I used a nighthawk cooler and an spin-on oil filter conversion plate from cycle-X plus some NPT braided hoses that i had made up

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It looks OEM, nice and clean install! Very impressive! ;)
Btw, I found this...http://www.5thgearparts.com/products/1984-honda-cb550-nighthawk-oil-cooler
Is this the same as yours and would the adaptor on this work on a '77 CB550?
May I know the size of the NPT hose that you used?

TIA!

Thanks

Yes, thats what i used on my build. You'll really just use the cooler radiator itself. The hoses and plate will not work with the older sohc 550's. The adaptor sandwich plate i used from cycle x will work on all the years of the sohc 550's.


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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #394 on: December 21, 2015, 03:28:21 PM »
Quote from: P.abrera on December 21, 2015, 03:01:47 PM

Yes, thats what i used on my build. You'll really just use the cooler radiator itself. The hoses and plate will not work with the older sohc 550's. The adaptor sandwich plate i used from cycle x will work on all the years of the sohc 550's.


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Cool! Thanks for the info! May I know the size and kind of NPT hose that you used? I'm a bit concerned about Oil pressure leakage though, especially in the fittings that'll be used, may I know how you made sure that this won't be an issue? Thanks again! Learning so much from this forum  :)
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« Reply #395 on: December 21, 2015, 04:03:32 PM »

Quote from: cocinero196 on December 21, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: P.abrera on December 21, 2015, 03:01:47 PM

Yes, thats what i used on my build. You'll really just use the cooler radiator itself. The hoses and plate will not work with the older sohc 550's. The adaptor sandwich plate i used from cycle x will work on all the years of the sohc 550's.


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Cool! Thanks for the info! May I know the size and kind of NPT hose that you used? I'm a bit concerned about Oil pressure leakage though, especially in the fittings that'll be used, may I know how you made sure that this won't be an issue? Thanks again! Learning so much from this forum  :)

Theres not a ton of pressure to worry about. You will need to buy the necessary fittings for the adapetr to run a cooler. You can get them at any hardware store, the size you would need is 1/4” NPT with a 1/2” barb. Braided stainless hoses are a bit overkill IMO and were more of an aesthetic choice for me. Just make sure the hose is rated for heat as it will be hot oil circulating from the crankcase coupled with heat from the headers given the location and routing of the hoses.



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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #396 on: December 21, 2015, 04:55:38 PM »
Quote from: cocinero196 on December 20, 2015, 12:00:41 AM
Quote from: P.abrera on December 19, 2015, 10:11:38 PM

I dont know if it was "necessary" but i figured it couldnt hurt given our hot climate and traffic conditions. For a four-season country an oil cooler might work against you in the cooler months though (oil might not get up to working temp). I used a nighthawk cooler and an spin-on oil filter conversion plate from cycle-X plus some NPT braided hoses that i had made up

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It looks OEM, nice and clean install! Very impressive! ;)
Btw, I found this...http://www.5thgearparts.com/products/1984-honda-cb550-nighthawk-oil-cooler
Is this the same as yours and would the adaptor on this work on a '77 CB550?
May I know the size of the NPT hose that you used?

TIA!

Got it! Thanks buddy 8)
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Re: New guy, first build
« Reply #397 on: December 21, 2015, 05:06:01 PM »
No prob. Just payin it forward. Got lotsa solid input from the good folks here when i was up to my elbows in my build


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