Author Topic: How much my collection is worth? 1950's very rare, early Honda motorcycles (Read 11559 times)

terecha · « **on:** December 28, 2015, 01:47:31 PM »

Hello!

754 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 28, 2015, 02:25:52 PM »

I think you may do better at the big auction houses on the rare ones.

terecha · « **Reply #2 on:** December 28, 2015, 03:00:46 PM »

One woman from RM auctions was very happy to take my MF. I didn't say her about other bikes. But my question is still the same - how much are they worth?

I would keep them, but I must move and my home will be not enough big to store all bikes in good conditions. This is history of Honda. They need better owner ;(

754 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 28, 2015, 03:07:33 PM »

Put them on loan to a bike museum , with proper insurance, and climate control..like Deutsches Zweirad Museum in Neckarsulm...

terecha · « **Reply #4 on:** December 28, 2015, 03:10:32 PM »

I think it can be good idea. Bikes will be in honest hands, but museum should pay me full value of bikes. I can't send them as loan.

terecha · « **Reply #5 on:** December 28, 2015, 11:57:54 PM »

The biggest local Honda dealer, where the classic bikes are kept too, said me values (bikes when well restored):

Dream MF - USD 200 000 - 300 000
Dream ME - USD 25 000 - 30 000
Dream 3E - USD 30 000 - 40 000
CB77 - USD 10 000

Should be correct?

Stev-o · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2015, 10:09:44 AM »

These bikes are not what [most of us] know, hard to put a value. Try to find comp's for sale.

Where are you?

754 · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2015, 10:22:31 AM »

Poland..

terecha · « **Reply #8 on:** December 29, 2015, 10:47:46 AM »

Yes I am from Poland.

Once I saw Dream ME 250 on Mecum auctions (several years ago) - if I remember well it was USD 25 000 at well restored condtion, some parts were not genuine.

Dream 3E went for 12 000 USD on ebay. Super rusted, very bad conditon. Would need 10 year restoration in this condition.

And some people asked me about genuine Dream 3E semaphores. Please look and enjoy

Still with 'Honda Dream' badge.

Don R · « **Reply #9 on:** January 02, 2016, 08:40:32 PM »

Some rare machines are worth less restored than in original condition. Consider that before removing original paint or chrome.

terecha · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2016, 12:36:05 PM »

Yes I know,you are right! But early Jap bikes are always in bad condition. I have never seen post war bike with good chromes and paint.

terecha · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2016, 12:41:45 PM »

PS I found info from collectors and books that Dream E series (E, 2E, 3E, 4E, 5E, 6E) was made in amount ca. 75 000, but very small quantity of E Dreams has been preserved - unknown data.

terecha · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2016, 06:50:53 AM »

Sory. Bad quality pictures with my Dream MF restoration. Making the new wiring loom I discovered that bike has got gear sensor and gear indicator! Yes it is not a joke. Gear indicator in 1950's bike. Other Honda didn't have it. It is great bike!

The engine runs and starts great. Gearbox and clutch also work fine

Water drops over whole bike this is just a rain. Bike was 15 minutes outside.

faux fiddy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2016, 07:10:02 PM »

I dunno,,, $500?

Stev-o · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2016, 07:46:26 PM »

Nice job!

ekpent · « **Reply #15 on:** March 02, 2016, 06:03:42 AM »

Look like some nice bar hopper bratt/bobber candidates

Great collection, be a nice addition to a museum. Good luck on the sale,sure you will do very well.
Bonhams has a big presence in Europe . http://www.bonhams.com/departments/MOT-CYC/

Sgt.Pinback · « **Reply #16 on:** March 02, 2016, 07:09:48 AM »

Just WOW!

Do you have the history of rhe bikes, any genuine paperwork?

Is there a MF in the HONDA museum? Otherwise, I would send them an E-Mail.

terecha · « **Reply #17 on:** March 02, 2016, 07:46:21 AM »

There is no Honda Dream MF in Honda Museum. They have only Dream SA, which was very common bike.

There were 4 main Dream models in these times. SA (12 HP), ME (12 HP), SB(14HP), MF (20 HP).

MF was the rarest, the most expensive and had the most powerfull engine and some gadgets like you can see.

My MF has got old Japanesse papers from registration and Honda certificate that it is matching number and when was produced.

Please see how it looked when I purchased it 6 years ago.

brewsky · « **Reply #18 on:** March 04, 2016, 03:17:50 AM »

Very nice!

I would check with Jay Leno!

Always wondered about the expansion chamber on a 4 stroke?

BobbyR · « **Reply #19 on:** March 05, 2016, 11:43:38 AM »

Quote from: CycleRanger on March 01, 2016, 08:28:09 PM

Quote from: terecha on December 28, 2015, 03:00:46 PM
One woman from RM auctions was very happy to take my MF. I didn't say her about other bikes. But my question is still the same - how much are they worth?

I would keep them, but I must move and my home will be not enough big to store all bikes in good conditions. This is history of Honda. They need better owner ;(

Beautiful, rare bikes!

Any credible auction house should be able, and willing, to do the research to get a current estimate of value.

Selling these bikes at a large, well-known auction house is probably your best bet at getting the best price and having the bikes go to a true Honda enthusiast.

Unfortunately these bikes are too old and rare for most of us here to be able to set a realistic value, but thank you for asking and posting the photos.

Please let us know how it goes with the sales.

You need to find a reliable auction house. Since they get a percentage of the sales price, they want you to get a good price. They also send out a catalog to people on their list. You can also try the Honda museum. They have bought bikes.

terecha · « **Reply #20 on:** March 05, 2016, 12:47:45 PM »

Expansion chamber pipe is usually used in 2 stroke bikes. One pre war 4 stroke Triumph had it and Dream MF had it. Maybe other motorcycles too.. Don't know it.

There is classic pipe inside, which ends in 1/3 of banana. So I really don't know what engineers wanted to achieve..

Maybe someone from forum members wants to take this bike - without auction house

bill440cars · « **Reply #21 on:** March 17, 2016, 06:40:23 AM »

Wow, what History! Beautiful & Interesting as well. Closest I could afford to get, to something like that, is my 1966 CB77 Super Hawk and a complete, but now disassembled CL72 Scrambler and I feel "Priviledged" to have that.

motorboy · « **Reply #22 on:** June 30, 2016, 02:11:58 PM »

Hi I am looking to buy a dream ME or a MF if you are still considering sellig your bikes them can you contact me easternsunrisedave@gmail.com

mrbreeze · « **Reply #23 on:** June 30, 2016, 06:45:30 PM »

I have never seen Hondas that old but then I never really went looking for info on old ones. I had a 305 Scrambler when I was a kid...65-66 something like that. These engine look quite a bit different. I would bet they would fetch some high dollars from the right people. I would do my homework before selling for sure.

74cb750 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 02, 2016, 03:31:44 PM »

You have some beautiful bikes there.

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