Author Topic: I'm looking for someone to bend me a custom head pipe (Read 9485 times)

mystic_1 · « **Reply #50 on:** January 04, 2016, 03:53:05 PM »

Woah, I can't believe that i never heard of this stuff before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood's_metal

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Wood's metal is commonly used as a filler when bending thin-walled metal tubes. For this use the tubing is filled with molten Wood's metal. After this filler solidifies the tubing is bent. The filler prevents the tube collapsing. The Wood's metal is then removed by heating, often by boiling in water.

Other uses include making custom-shaped apertures and blocks (for example, electron-beam cutouts and lung blocks) for medical radiation treatment, and making metal inlays in wood.

Wood's metal is also useful for repairing antiques. For example, a bent piece of sheet metal may be repaired by casting a Wood's metal die from a good example. The low melting temperature of Wood's metal makes it unlikely this will harm the original. The damaged piece can then be clamped in the die and slowly tightened to form it back into shape.

Wood's metal has long been used by model railroad enthusiasts to add weight to locomotives, increasing traction, and the number of cars that can be pulled.

Neat!

grcamna2 · « **Reply #51 on:** January 04, 2016, 05:03:15 PM »

Quote from: mystic_1 on January 04, 2016, 03:53:05 PM

Woah, I can't believe that i never heard of this stuff before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood's_metal

Quote
Wood's metal is commonly used as a filler when bending thin-walled metal tubes. For this use the tubing is filled with molten Wood's metal. After this filler solidifies the tubing is bent. The filler prevents the tube collapsing. The Wood's metal is then removed by heating, often by boiling in water.

Other uses include making custom-shaped apertures and blocks (for example, electron-beam cutouts and lung blocks) for medical radiation treatment, and making metal inlays in wood.

Wood's metal is also useful for repairing antiques. For example, a bent piece of sheet metal may be repaired by casting a Wood's metal die from a good example. The low melting temperature of Wood's metal makes it unlikely this will harm the original. The damaged piece can then be clamped in the die and slowly tightened to form it back into shape.

Wood's metal has long been used by model railroad enthusiasts to add weight to locomotives, increasing traction, and the number of cars that can be pulled.

Neat!

I like the bottom of your signature mystic about "a ship in harbor..."

754 · « **Reply #52 on:** January 04, 2016, 06:18:18 PM »

Think we are getting somewhere with the pipe bending issue..

grcamna2 · « **Reply #53 on:** January 05, 2016, 05:17:58 AM »

Quote from: 754 on January 04, 2016, 06:18:18 PM

Think we are getting somewhere with the pipe bending issue..

Yeah, I'd like to learn to weld and bend pipe but need to afford a shop w/ electricity,etc. and go half w/ someone w/ $ to start and keep a nice repair business that will grow;I'll be moving to another area soon.The thing about the area i live now is I'm new here and they don't warm up too well to outsiders.. I was glad to find an exhaust/tube shop(even though it's 180 miles away

) w/ a mandrel bender and we'll be speaking about price..

grcamna2 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 11, 2016, 01:13:43 PM »

I sent a few pics to the tube shop and asked a few more questions and it turns out the man only wants(he did say he was 'sorry' though..

) to do automotive custom jobs..

I'll need to find another shop who will bend me up a single 1.5" stainless steel pipe roughly 30" long for my fun little bike. I have both the inlet and outlet flanges and I'll just need to keep looking;I like the idea of mandrel bending it too.I'll be installing the muffler temporarily along with setting-up/fabricating the muffler mount at the same time so I can 'Go with the Flow'

I'm in W PA. but willing to transport the bike over to the custom bender dude with-in reason. Do you know anyone not too far from me who isn't afraid to do this?

grcamna2 · « **Reply #55 on:** January 11, 2016, 01:49:16 PM »

Quote from: calj737 on January 11, 2016, 01:37:10 PM

if those donor pieces are not stainless, you can not weld stainless tubing to them

if so,then I'll change over to regular steel pipe but either way,I'll cross that bridge when i come to it.
The important thing for me at this point is finding an encouraging exhaust person who will do this job for me.

DohcBikes · « **Reply #56 on:** January 11, 2016, 01:52:03 PM »

Quote from: calj737 on January 11, 2016, 01:37:10 PM

if those donor pieces are not stainless, you can not weld stainless tubing to them

This is incorrect.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #57 on:** January 11, 2016, 01:53:43 PM »

I really like your signature DohcBikes

DohcBikes · « **Reply #58 on:** January 11, 2016, 02:45:17 PM »

It is a common process.

Any low quality weld can fail.

In my opinion any respectable exhaust shop has a TIG and the skill to weld stainless to mild.

05c50 · « **Reply #59 on:** January 11, 2016, 03:14:08 PM »

Give these people a call. http://www.oakmontautomotive.net/ I don't know them, but they advertise custom exhaust, aren't real far from you, and have good customer reviews.

........Paul

grcamna2 · « **Reply #60 on:** January 11, 2016, 04:04:00 PM »

Quote from: 05c50 on January 11, 2016, 03:14:08 PM

Give these people a call. http://www.oakmontautomotive.net/ I don't know them, but they advertise custom exhaust, aren't real far from you, and have good customer reviews.

........Paul

I'll give them a call and hope they can think 'motorcycle'

grcamna2 · « **Reply #61 on:** January 11, 2016, 06:02:18 PM »

I don't mind sending out a 'mock-up' piece of pipe that's bent in the same exact shape as needed to a good custom motorcycle exhaust builder. Anyone know of a place close to you that you have experience with?

strynboen · « **Reply #62 on:** January 12, 2016, 03:44:33 AM »

you can easy weld ss and mild steel ..but the rust vill spread over from the mild steel parts over time..if nothing are done paint/crome. ect...

grcamna2 · « **Reply #63 on:** January 12, 2016, 06:33:46 AM »

Quote from: strynboen on January 12, 2016, 03:44:33 AM

you can easy weld ss and mild steel ..but the rust vill spread over from the mild steel parts over time..if nothing are done paint/crome. ect...

ok,good. I'm now hoping to find a shop somewhere who will bend a piece of 1.5" diameter SS pipe for me;I like the idea of mandrel bending..

DohcBikes · « **Reply #64 on:** January 12, 2016, 07:21:35 AM »

Quote from: strynboen on January 12, 2016, 03:44:33 AM

you can easy weld ss and mild steel ..but the rust vill spread over from the mild steel parts over time..if nothing are done paint/crome. ect...

+1

An experienced exhaust welder will have the mild steel properly prepped which means extremely clean, and use a TIG, likely with 309 filler.

There are clearcoats that will withstand the heat and resist corrosion for a long time. Obviously chrome would be an excellent option, as would ceramic coating. Either would be cosmetically pleasing and almost a lifetime finish if cared for.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #65 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:48:24 AM »

I found another shop

who does motorcycle specific exhaust building, Knepper's up in Somerset,PA. He has a mandrel tubing bender also and he wouldn't mind doing the job before the snowmobile season(he is a snowmobile shop+ atv's)gets too busy.I found a tubing supply place up here also who will supply me w/ a length of # 409 SS 1.5" o.d. tubing. Can anyone tell me how thick of a gauge the '409' stainless steel tubing is ??
The man who does the bending is good with '304' thinner SS 1.5" tubing,but I may need to get extra of the '409' if it's thicker..

05c50 · « **Reply #66 on:** January 12, 2016, 12:09:26 PM »

Quote from: grcamna2 on January 12, 2016, 08:48:24 AM

I found another shop who does motorcycle specific exhaust building, Knepper's up in Somerset,PA. He has a mandrel tubing bender also and he wouldn't mind doing the job before the snowmobile season

I'll be interested in how it turns out. If you've never been to Knepper's, I think you're in for a treat.

.........Paul

grcamna2 · « **Reply #67 on:** January 12, 2016, 05:05:17 PM »

I just went to see a new-to-me powersports machinist today who seems 'on the ball' and he spoke to me about Knepper's in a discouraging way,he told me they aren't precision when it comes to machining,etc.
now I'm just not sure..

grcamna2 · « **Reply #68 on:** January 12, 2016, 05:06:21 PM »

Quote from: 05c50 on January 12, 2016, 12:09:26 PM

Quote from: grcamna2 on January 12, 2016, 08:48:24 AM
I found another shop who does motorcycle specific exhaust building, Knepper's up in Somerset,PA. He has a mandrel tubing bender also and he wouldn't mind doing the job before the snowmobile season

I'll be interested in how it turns out. If you've never been to Knepper's, I think you're in for a treat.

.........Paul

Paul,
How have your experiences been w/ Knepper's ?

05c50 · « **Reply #69 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:05:13 PM »

I have never personally had any dealings with them, but know some people that have. In their words "there's nothing there but junk". I've been past their place quite a few times and although looks can be deceiving, the building and yard are not very impressive, but I'd still give them a try.

..........Paul

grcamna2 · « **Reply #70 on:** January 13, 2016, 08:16:25 AM »

Quote from: 05c50 on January 12, 2016, 08:05:13 PM

I have never personally had any dealings with them, but know some people that have. In their words "there's nothing there but junk". I've been past their place quite a few times and although looks can be deceiving, the building and yard are not very impressive, but I'd still give them a try.

..........Paul

I have been in touch w/ the owner/tube bender and we have a tentative understanding of "2 weeks"..maybe.. He's busy w/ snowmobiles now and I think this job will take a lot of his time.I've been to Knepper's a few times looking for used parts and every time I go there the entire place is filled w/ exhaust fumes.I spoke with the owners wife and she says that's very common.. Breathing that stuff all day really works on someone and takes away positive energy from the occupants..

DohcBikes · « **Reply #71 on:** January 13, 2016, 08:21:54 AM »

Bill everything i'm reading here says to not go there. Hate to see a good guy get screwed by a bad business.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #72 on:** January 13, 2016, 08:51:33 AM »

Thanks,that helps. I'll just keep hunting around here and hope I find one soon.I want to have this little bike ready to GO and the large diameter pipe is what it needs

grcamna2 · « **Reply #73 on:** January 14, 2016, 10:11:52 PM »

Any other thoughts/advice ?

grcamna2 · « **Reply #74 on:** February 23, 2016, 03:53:42 PM »

Do any of you know where i can go to a nationwide type store(Tractor Supply,etc.?)and buy different types of 1.5" exhaust fittings such as elbows-45 & 90 degree type and then I can buy myself a length of 1.5" auto exhaust pipe and just build my own headpipe for my Honda w/ the fittings ?

I went to a traditional muffler shop today and had them bend me up a piece of 1.5" steel pipe but I noticed the hydraulic bending machine does crush in the pipe quite a bit.. plus they do charge big $ for custom bending by the hour.

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Author Topic: I'm looking for someone to bend me a custom head pipe (Read 9485 times)