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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #75 on: January 28, 2016, 09:44:44 PM »
Quite the parts collection!  I know what you mean about the bars haha, I'm looking for something like the super bike ones you picked up but specifics are hard to judge from pictures.

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #76 on: January 29, 2016, 02:54:08 AM »
A couple of inputs for you: Baking Soda for the home and that which is used in a Blast cabinet are quite a bit different. While you can get away with it, you may find that particular media clogging up quite a bit during use. The "industrial" stuff is far more coarse and less prone to sticking in the gun. Keep fluffing up the media regularly while in use to aide its flow.

EMGO=cheap quality. This is a word to the wise. Every single item I have ver purchased with EMGO brand has not lasted 1 year. These items have all been replaced with a proper quality product and I have never looked back.

Gaitors: Be sure yours have drainage holes in them, and that the hole is oriented to the bottom of the shock, towards the header for best performance (this helps allow condensation to escape from beneath them).

MAC: Their coatings are renowned for not lasting. They look great new, but that black paint fails rather quickly. IF YOU CAN, treat the interior of that pipe with ceramic-based paint or better still, Cerakote. It will prevent the corrosion and failure of the paint for a longer time. The heat from the exhaust basically bakes off the MAC paint and you're left with a rusty, discolored pipe far too soon.

Electrical: Your stock coils are also 5Ohms, so you haven't actually changed anything except the ignition itself, which does draw a tad more current than stock points/condensers. But the 5Ohms are the proper choice. The AG-8 doesn't have the same Amp/Hr rating as the stock bike, so be mindful that your wire harness, all connections, and the chassis grounds are in pristine shape. The added resistance of corroded connections and 40 year old connectors does but more load on the charging system.

I'm a huge fan of modern electrics, but in truth, the stock Reg/Rec and coils are really bullet-proof items. The anemic charging system of the bike is quite capable of handling commuting, absent of heavy load modern lighting and electronic ignitions. Just saying... I like the choices you've made for your electrics, but you also need to understand basics of the stock stuff to know where/when a deficiency exists and how to correct it optimally.

BTW, when you're building a motorcycle, Every day is Xmas!  :D
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #77 on: January 29, 2016, 06:39:39 AM »
Quite the parts collection!  I know what you mean about the bars haha, I'm looking for something like the super bike ones you picked up but specifics are hard to judge from pictures.

Bars and seats, really tough!  Let me know if you want any other shots of the Superbike bars.  Hard to show the profile of them really, but if you can come up with a way which would help you decide let me know and I'll try to shoot it!

A couple of inputs for you: Baking Soda for the home and that which is used in a Blast cabinet are quite a bit different. While you can get away with it, you may find that particular media clogging up quite a bit during use. The "industrial" stuff is far more coarse and less prone to sticking in the gun. Keep fluffing up the media regularly while in use to aide its flow.

EMGO=cheap quality. This is a word to the wise. Every single item I have ver purchased with EMGO brand has not lasted 1 year. These items have all been replaced with a proper quality product and I have never looked back.

Gaitors: Be sure yours have drainage holes in them, and that the hole is oriented to the bottom of the shock, towards the header for best performance (this helps allow condensation to escape from beneath them).

MAC: Their coatings are renowned for not lasting. They look great new, but that black paint fails rather quickly. IF YOU CAN, treat the interior of that pipe with ceramic-based paint or better still, Cerakote. It will prevent the corrosion and failure of the paint for a longer time. The heat from the exhaust basically bakes off the MAC paint and you're left with a rusty, discolored pipe far too soon.

Electrical: Your stock coils are also 5Ohms, so you haven't actually changed anything except the ignition itself, which does draw a tad more current than stock points/condensers. But the 5Ohms are the proper choice. The AG-8 doesn't have the same Amp/Hr rating as the stock bike, so be mindful that your wire harness, all connections, and the chassis grounds are in pristine shape. The added resistance of corroded connections and 40 year old connectors does but more load on the charging system.

I'm a huge fan of modern electrics, but in truth, the stock Reg/Rec and coils are really bullet-proof items. The anemic charging system of the bike is quite capable of handling commuting, absent of heavy load modern lighting and electronic ignitions. Just saying... I like the choices you've made for your electrics, but you also need to understand basics of the stock stuff to know where/when a deficiency exists and how to correct it optimally.

BTW, when you're building a motorcycle, Every day is Xmas!  :D

Hi Cal!  Thanks for your input on those items above.  I know the baking soda isn't the same as the soda media, but this small quantity is a good start for me.  I could get it much quicker than I could the other stuff (Armex Soda Media) so I went with it.  If I plow through this and find myself needing more I'll consider the proper media. 

EMGO: I get this are cheap quality, but they let me build the bike I want to now.  A necessary evil I'm afraid to say.  Once I have the look I want, I can take my time upgrading these parts as needed.

Gaitors: Good tip!  I'll have a look later today.  If these don't have the hole I could always drill one.  I'm not sure I'll be keeping this set because I think the ridges are too close together for my liking.

MAC: I suppose I could wrap the outside, though I like the black look.  Will try to coat the interior, I've heard the warnings about these before

Electrical: D'oh!  I thought the stockers were 3ohms.  My mistake.  I'm aware of the needy needs of the lithium batteries, that was my thinking for 1) redoing the entire harness so I can have eyes on each connection and 2) replacing the reg/rec and coils with known performing ones.  I get now that the stock charging system was probably built overkill for the 350F, as I'm sure it was shared with the 400F and maybe future fours.  My only other motorcycle history is with the BMW, and that charging system does fine on the highway but is not happy down slow starting and stopping in the city.  My choices for electrical "upgrades" were based on the BMW.  Some more research on the capabilities of the 350F charging system would have helped, but I'm fairly certain I would've arrived at the same parts I have now.  I'm glad to have your approval of the electrical bits I've chosen!  Thats a good start.

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #78 on: January 29, 2016, 09:17:56 AM »
Oddly, the old airheads and these SOHCs have much in common regarding their respective charging systems. Except BMW does have an a factory quality alternator upgrade available due to known issues of commuters wearing out batteries. I'm a bug BMW fan also. Put just short of 500k miles on them in my days and have a '74 R90 project underway (much delayed right now I'm afraid).
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #79 on: January 29, 2016, 09:42:11 AM »
Oddly, the old airheads and these SOHCs have much in common regarding their respective charging systems. Except BMW does have an a factory quality alternator upgrade available due to known issues of commuters wearing out batteries. I'm a bug BMW fan also. Put just short of 500k miles on them in my days and have a '74 R90 project underway (much delayed right now I'm afraid).

500k, wow!  Awesome bikes.   Would love to see some pics of your project.  Here is a link to my airhead thread if any of you are interested...
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #80 on: January 29, 2016, 12:26:44 PM »
Link no work...?
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #82 on: January 29, 2016, 12:31:05 PM »
I recall it now. You posted that link in your Intro thread if I am not mistaken. Mine will be far more a "Street Bike" build, or a vintage R Nine T hybrid.
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #83 on: January 29, 2016, 12:32:13 PM »
I recall it now. You posted that link in your Intro thread if I am not mistaken. Mine will be far more a "Street Bike" build, or a vintage R Nine T hybrid.

Sounds amazing! Please share when you get started.

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2016, 12:52:06 AM »
A sample of Cal's wiring:

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2016, 01:47:01 AM »
A sample of Cal's wiring:



Nice stuff Cal! iiAtlas, when do you think you'll get to try the baking soda blaster?  I just had my first experiment today with walnut shell blasting and it did a pretty decent job on my carbs!  Looking forward to see how they compare.  Just an FYI, whatever nozzle you get for the air make sure the outlet is as small/high pressure as possible.

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2016, 03:55:47 AM »
LOL! It feels like that sometimes  ::)
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2016, 07:30:37 AM »
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Nice stuff Cal! iiAtlas, when do you think you'll get to try the baking soda blaster?  I just had my first experiment today with walnut shell blasting and it did a pretty decent job on my carbs!  Looking forward to see how they compare.  Just an FYI, whatever nozzle you get for the air make sure the outlet is as small/high pressure as possible.

Hoping to get it rocking today! I'll be blasting with 5cfm @ 90psi, for comparison. Carbs are clean in my book, but I may have a go at blasting the body which connects the four as it was too big to dip.  Glad to hear the walnut blasting worked well on your carbs! It looks like my gasket set is scheduled to be delivered today - that would make for a fun weekend :)

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2016, 08:12:29 PM »
Long weekend!  Sorry for the late reply.  Incredibly, I was gifted a Clausing lathe and mill by a great friend and incredibly talented machinist if I dared move them. 









9 hours later and here we are!  Too good to be true - I couldn't pass it up.  Anyways, I had some time to work on the carbs Saturday.



I sure wish I took more pictures!! Next time I do something like this I think I will set up a tripod and record the whole thing.  You really can never have too much information.  Anyways, after racking my brain and some past pictures I began to make some progress.  The benefit of taking this things apart this much is it forces you to really understand what each and every piece does, and why it's designed the way it is.  The throttle slides and arm locking mechanism is a great example of this, the choke lever another.  As I was taking the float bowls out of the bag I thought "this would be a perfect time to try out that sodablaster."  Ever seen anyone soda blast on the streets of NYC?  It's quite a sight...



This picture doesn't really do it justice, it was everywhere and I hardly blasted anything.  "Sidewalk cleaning" - lets call it that... After the blast I gave the bits a soak in some warm water.



The baking soda fizzled right off, and I was able to use the air compressor to blast them dry.  For some reason I neglected to take any "after" pictures.  The blasting worked out pretty well.  It got rid of the remaining rust particles and helped eat at the left over gasket.  I think a smaller nozzle would be a big improvement, and a better place to blast where I could do a continued stream.  The baking soda didn't clump up, but it did come shooting out in bursts as the nozzle was too large.  I'll shop around for a smaller size. 

Everything started to click as I got the jets in.



The OEM gasket set arrived so I began putting those on wherever I could find them.



I used #1 and #2 for the jets.  It seemed like there were other sizes which could also fit (#4).  I'm not sure how to check if the two I chose were correct or if I put them in the right spot.  I had a really hard time finding good documentation on these!  It looks like the 4 #3's go on the fuel rails. #6 for the top cap (what's a better name for this? throttle slide cap?).  I had an issue with #5, the float bowl gasket, it simply doesn't fit.

 





Gah!  What's going on here?  I understand that I should feed it into that channel.  Even when I do it hangs over 4-5mm.  Enough to the point that I cannot make it fit.  Is it possible I was shipped the wrong set?  On the parts diagram the gasket is shown correctly.



The top cap gasket fits no problem.



After 4 hours work I was only able to get carb #1 mostly done before I ran into the gasket issue.  I suppose now that I know how to do it once the remaining 3 should go somewhat easier.  I'd love to find a set for those "tongued washers" which you bend over the throttle slide nuts.  I'd like to replace mine but it looks like Honda only sells them in a $100+ "Arm Link Set".  Shame.

While I was in there I also made an attempt at adjusting the float height.  I rested the float so that it was just sitting on the spring/needle, then measured from the carb body to the top of the float.  My Clymer manual says 21mm so I set it at that.  I had a hard time working out at what point the float should be 21mm...the Clymer was less than helpful.  I decided to measure as follows.



A few more issues.  The small clip retaining the small brass bit which keeps the float needle in place is at a SLEIGHT angle.  The pictures below exaggerate this greatly.







I'm not worried about this unless one of you tells me otherwise.  The angle is ~3°.  The bigger issue which sadly I don't have any pictures of, when I place the "float clip" on the "float clip seat" the float bowl does not sit all the way down.  It is 1-2mm off, too high.





Does the emulsifier and main jet need to go further in?  They seem to be as far as they'll happily go.

That's all for now!  Hopefully this post isn't too scatter-brained to keep track of, it's been a long day.  Feel free to say "this is a mess" and I'll do my best to re-write it in the morning.

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2016, 08:26:51 PM »
The float needle valve retainer clip should be curved in the downward angle toward the brass,you should remove it and flip it upside-down the right way.
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #90 on: January 31, 2016, 08:47:44 PM »
Holy crap.  A Clausing lathe and mill?  That's a very good friend.  Congrats.
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #91 on: January 31, 2016, 09:14:30 PM »
Holy crap.  A Clausing lathe and mill?  That's a very good friend.  Congrats.

You said it
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #92 on: February 01, 2016, 08:43:02 AM »
The float needle valve retainer clip should be curved in the downward angle toward the brass,you should remove it and flip it upside-down the right way.

Interesting!  Will take a look, I didn't realize it had any sort of directionality.  Thanks.

Holy crap.  A Clausing lathe and mill?  That's a very good friend.  Congrats.


Holy crap.  A Clausing lathe and mill?  That's a very good friend.  Congrats.

You said it

Yes yes and yes!  I feel pretty lucky right now.  He has a very large shop and these were his two smallest machines.  I'd been using crappy Chinese lathes and mills up to this point (SIEG C3 and X2D), this will be a massive and welcome upgrade.  The action on the handles is really amazing.  So precise, yet so smooth.  They're upstate until I can find time to get working on them but I'm incredibly thankful to have them!  Glad some of you here are able to appreciate them too  :)



Here is a post from ADVRider you all may find interesting.

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- The o-ring for the float bowl is likely correct. It's a PITA to put it in, the best way is to put it in the bowl as best you can, then put the bowl on the carb and run the four screws in just a bit, then work your way around the bowl pushing the gasket into the groove with a popsicle stick or similar item that won't damage the o-ring or bowl. As you work your way around you'll find the o-ring will stay in if you work in one side, then tighten the screws on that side just a titch until the gap is too small for the o-ring to get out, but still with enough slack on the screws to be able to work your way around the rest of the bowl. I know the o-ring appears too big but it will end up working it's way into the groove. It's fiddly but can be done. Just take your time, after you do the first one you'll get better at it as you do the rest.

- Angle of the clip holding in the fuel valve is nothing to worry about, it's fine.

- I'd suggest NOT adjusting any of the other floats if you haven't done them yet. It's pretty rare for a float to need changing the adjustment, especially if you're using the original fuel valve. (We already discussed not to use any of the carb kit brass if you can get away with it, right?). You're more likely to create a problem adjusting them. I'd say put the other 3 fuel valves in and floats on and see what they measure. Put back your first one to that.

- The float clip is spring steel, it will compress as you tighten the float bowl screws to put on the bowl. So it holding the bowl up a bit is the way it's supposed to be...that's where the spring action comes from.

If you need photos of something let me know what you need a picture of, I might have it from when I did mine.

Thank you ADW your post was a HUGE help!!  I can't believe you made it through my lengthy writeup.  I really appreciate you chiming in.  I'll give the float bowl gasket another shot.  Would you recommend using any sort of gasket holder/sealant?  Maybe white lithium grease?  Or not.  As for the floats, I only touched the one.  I moved it just a smidgen up, under a fraction of a MM adjustment on the tang.  I felt it was sitting just a hair low.  I'll compare it with the remaining three and un-adjust if need be.  My floats on the BMW needed set so I'd assumed these would to.  Silly me about that steel spring...very cool!  The more you know I suppose...thanks for the lesson, I'll tighten it down later tonight and stop worrying.  This carb my first so it was the hardest, and its the only one with the choke lever so I think the others should go okay.

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #93 on: February 01, 2016, 09:16:42 AM »
Holy crap.  A Clausing lathe and mill?  That's a very good friend.  Congrats.

You said it

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #94 on: February 04, 2016, 07:54:58 AM »
Finally found time to complete the carb rebuild last night!  It definitely helps to do all four in one sitting.  You get in a groove, and so long as you work carefully can complete them with some sort of efficiency.  The carb bodies cleaned up really nice!



I believe I put all the o-rings in the right places (I double checked the fiche).



One for each of these jets, 4 on the fuel rails (where applicable).  I had a lone o-ring left which I believe goes on this small piece between the carbs.  I take it this is some sort of alignment device.  It sits on the outside of two carb bodies and spaces them appropriately. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.



The float bowl gaskets were a complete PAIN to get on!  Very frustrating, I'd say they took almost as long as getting the whole body back together.  In the end, what worked for me was using various feeler gauges to coerce the gasket into the groove, all while slowly inching down the four float bowl screws. 



For some of the extra stubborn ones or to get the last remaining side seated I would tighten the bowl all the down on the good sides and let it "set" for a few minutes.  When I then loosened the bowl I was able to position the remaining side while maintaining some rigidity on the properly aligned three.  I think this trick worked pretty well.  A few hours later and everything was back together.





From here I was planning on assembling them back on the bracket, but after taking it out of the bag I realized that may be a project for another day...(hopefully tonight).  There were way more pieces there than I'd remembered!  The link arms, various springs, a whole load of screws.  I have them all labeled but it was 11pm and I thought I'd quit while I was ahead.  More to come!  :)

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #95 on: February 04, 2016, 11:59:26 AM »
Coming together! I've been putting mine off until the gasket set arrives  ;D

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #96 on: February 04, 2016, 12:43:43 PM »
Coming together! I've been putting mine off until the gasket set arrives  ;D

Getting there!  Good work on your engine, thats next for me.  Gasket set did the trick.  Did you order 4 OEM ones?  I had a few extra gaskets as I suppose each carb doesn't need all of them (ie. not 4 sets of fuel rails).  This tricked me up for a sec but I think I understood it correctly! 

Good luck with the float bowl gasket...she's a real pill!

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #97 on: February 04, 2016, 02:41:31 PM »
Coming together! I've been putting mine off until the gasket set arrives  ;D

Getting there!  Good work on your engine, thats next for me.  Gasket set did the trick.  Did you order 4 OEM ones?  I had a few extra gaskets as I suppose each carb doesn't need all of them (ie. not 4 sets of fuel rails).  This tricked me up for a sec but I think I understood it correctly! 

Good luck with the float bowl gasket...she's a real pill!

when the round oem float bowl gaskets are tough to install I put some really sticky wheel bearing grease in a few spots(when I have some handy)and that helps to hold the large 'o-ring' in the groove,or warm the gasket a little..
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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #98 on: February 04, 2016, 02:57:49 PM »
Coming together! I've been putting mine off until the gasket set arrives  ;D

Getting there!  Good work on your engine, thats next for me.  Gasket set did the trick.  Did you order 4 OEM ones?  I had a few extra gaskets as I suppose each carb doesn't need all of them (ie. not 4 sets of fuel rails).  This tricked me up for a sec but I think I understood it correctly! 

Good luck with the float bowl gasket...she's a real pill!

I spoke too soon about procrastinating - mine just arrived haha  ;D  Not too excited about it but oh well, needs to happen sometime.  The engine really isn't bad.  I just got my cylinders off with only a few taps from the hammer + wooden block.

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Re: 1973 CB350F Cafe/Tracker build
« Reply #99 on: February 05, 2016, 10:43:17 AM »
I spoke too soon about procrastinating - mine just arrived haha  ;D  Not too excited about it but oh well, needs to happen sometime.  The engine really isn't bad.  I just got my cylinders off with only a few taps from the hammer + wooden block.

Hah!  Let me know if you have any questions, it's all fresh in my memory.  Happy to take pictures of whatever you need.  Take more shots than you think you'd need, I wish I had.  Next time I take something this intricate apart I plan on video taping it!

when the round oem float bowl gaskets are tough to install I put some really sticky wheel bearing grease in a few spots(when I have some handy)and that helps to hold the large 'o-ring' in the groove,or warm the gasket a little..

Good idea in a pinch.  I was lucky enough to not need to go that far.  Just a few hours cursing and she's all seated.  I'm hoping next time I take the bowls off (to change the jetting) she'll maintain her shape.