Author Topic: SPECIAL MESSAGE TO RESIDENTS OF THE WORLDS ONLY SUPERPOWER (Read 9586 times)

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #25 on:** November 10, 2006, 03:13:06 AM »

Quote from: Bob Wessner on November 10, 2006, 02:20:27 AM

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Well in Oz, voting is compulsory,

Terry, how are you compelled to vote? Just curious.

G'Day Bob, well if you don't vote and can't come up with a good enough reason why, you can get a fine. It's not much though, maybe 100 bucks (I'm guessing, I really don't know) but most people just vote, so it's not a big issue.

There are a few "pseudo intellectuals" who don't vote because they think they're sending a message to the government, (I think that message says "Hey look at me, I'm a dickhead") and a few "donkey voters" that vote for Donald Duck or Mickey Mouse, but I guess it's our culture to tip out the government if we think they're rubbish, and that keeps the politicians on their toes. Cheers, Terry.

Rocking-M · « **Reply #26 on:** November 10, 2006, 04:34:34 AM »

oK, I'll go back to my old voting technique. I usually write in Thomas Jefferson or Jefferson Davis for President.
In fact, I've considered a bonifide campaign with the motto,

"A DEAD STATESMAN IS BETTER THAN A LIVE POLOTICIAN"

ofreen · « **Reply #27 on:** November 10, 2006, 05:53:03 AM »

When I hear somebody say they don't vote because 'the system is broken,' it tells me they either are lazy or just don't have the flick. It is a cop-out. The 'system' is supposed to be the people paying attention to what is going on, communicating with their reps, and then hold them accountable by voting accordingly. A lot of people I know that don't vote cannot tell you who their representatives are. I know people who couldn't tell you the name of the vice president, let alone their senators or representatives. As far as knowing who their local and state reps are, they may as well be on the moon. Most people can't be bothered to take even the minimum effort. When people say they don't vote, they may as well wear a sign that says "The system is mine and I am doing my best to break it."

Really, though, the last election just demonstated that the system may be isn't broken. The Republicans took it in the shorts because enough people got tired of the lies and deceit and voted accordingly. Now the Democrats will be on top for awhile, we will get their version of lies and deceit, and the pendulum will swing back the other way. The real flaw in our system is that there is no real difference between the two parties. They just have different clienteles they pander to and the groups they pander to tend to represent the political extremes in this country. Until the rest of people get off their collective duffs, nothing will change.

BobbyR · « **Reply #28 on:** November 10, 2006, 08:14:15 AM »

The only time that Politicians are certain to be telling the truth, is when they are calling each other liars. Voting should be compulsory in the US.

ofreen · « **Reply #29 on:** November 10, 2006, 09:01:29 AM »

Quote from: BobbyR on November 10, 2006, 08:14:15 AM

Voting should be compulsory in the US.

I don't think that would improve anything, even if the Constitution could be bent enough to allow it. An uninformed vote is worse than no vote.

74cb750 · « **Reply #30 on:** November 10, 2006, 04:18:53 PM »

My 2 cents:
If the majority of the USA voters are sickened by the Democrats and Republicans
why do you not vote for a Socialist, like we did in Vermont?

FWIW , I do not care for the news lumping the 2 new Independent Senators in with
the Democrats, when they were both elected as Independents NOT Democrats.

peace,
michel

Rocking-M · « **Reply #31 on:** November 10, 2006, 07:08:41 PM »

I'd have preferred to be present at this event in Vermont.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/nation/15939133.htm

Maybe I'll hear about the next one before hand and I plan to attend.

Rocking-M · « **Reply #32 on:** November 10, 2006, 07:17:40 PM »

Quote from: ofreen on November 10, 2006, 05:53:03 AM

When I hear somebody say they don't vote because 'the system is broken,' it tells me they either are lazy or just don't have the flick. Until the rest of people get off their collective duffs, nothing will change.

And I'll fire this one back at you ofreen, your voting hasn't changed a damn thing, you said so yourself.
Just a different version of liars/panderers. Getting off your collective duff would mean you have to do
more than just vote. You have to get really active in changing the broken system. Means you'd have
to do more than go down to the local voting booth and vote (coming out and beating the air with
I voted doesn't change a thing). I've been through the political game so don't tell me how it
works. I once took control of the local Republican Parties electoral votes by beating the bushes
with and getting my neighbors to sign over their votes for a candidate I thought had some gumption.
Turns out he didn't have what it took to really fight for Governor here in Virginia. Anyway,
I know how it works now and its pretty well fubared.

ofreen · « **Reply #33 on:** November 10, 2006, 07:49:11 PM »

So just give up, sit back, and let the bad guys have their way then?

ofreen · « **Reply #34 on:** November 10, 2006, 07:58:49 PM »

Also, I will add that attaining something worthwhile is never easy. Except, apparently, getting a knobber from Scarlett Johanson.

Hop on a Honda · « **Reply #35 on:** November 10, 2006, 10:46:02 PM »

I sympathise with ya'll if you can win an erection with one vote, poor old Al!!
Any way if ya'll voted it may have had a good impact on what is happening now in Iraq etc maybe it may have never happened?!!
In Australia its COMPULSARY to vote. so it should be in USA
Besides "VOLTAIRE" came into it to.
Dave Australia.
PS I still went to Vietnam and still ride a SOHC!!

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #36 on:** November 11, 2006, 03:51:30 AM »

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In Australia its COMPULSARY to vote.

Terry made this comment as well. So, how do they compel you to vote?

Are you jailed/fined if you don't? How do they determine you have, or have not voted? Sounds a little Orwellian.

Hop on a Honda · « **Reply #37 on:** November 11, 2006, 12:11:13 PM »

Quote from: Bob Wessner on November 11, 2006, 03:51:30 AM

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In Australia its COMPULSARY to vote.

Terry made this comment as well. So, how do they compel you to vote? Are you jailed/fined if you don't? How do they determine you have, or have not voted? Sounds a little Orwellian.

No Orson wells has nothing to do with the deal.
Its basically a small census so to speak.
I think a A$500 max fine is the go. I have never heard of any one being jailed except for people refusing national Service during the Vietnam War era.
Its all computerised so I guess its Kosha as a politition .having said that the ammout of pollies are all currupt to say the least there ioonly there to satisfy their egos.There are NO Real statesmen any more.
Most people actually vote for one or the other and its a parking problem day.
Problem the aaaholes seem to have it rigged so as the poor dumbass like me will never see the real truth.
Ask Al Gore.
Dave

Rocking-M · « **Reply #38 on:** November 11, 2006, 01:38:33 PM »

There is one Statesman left in the uS.

Ron Paul of Texas, and if I lived in Texas I'd back him, I'm on his mailing list
even though I'm in Virginia!

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #39 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:03:58 PM »

Quote from: Rocking-M on November 11, 2006, 01:38:33 PM

There is one Statesman left in the uS.

Ron Paul of Texas, and if I lived in Texas I'd back him, I'm on his mailing list
even though I'm in Virginia!

But you don't back anyone mate, because you think voting is BS, so to Ron Paul, you're kinda, er, useless? $:-\$

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #40 on:** November 12, 2006, 01:09:53 PM »

Quote from: Bob Wessner on November 11, 2006, 03:51:30 AM

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In Australia its COMPULSARY to vote.

Terry made this comment as well. So, how do they compel you to vote? Are you jailed/fined if you don't? How do they determine you have, or have not voted? Sounds a little Orwellian.

I dunno much about that Orsome Wells guy either Bob, although I did enjoy "War of the Worlds" with Nicole Kidmans hubby, but we Aussies are smarter than you think, you see, rather than copping a fine, we just turn up at the polling booth, get our name marked off the register, then we don't vote for anyone!

Ha ha, it's the perfect crime mate, and we don't have to accept responsibility if the wrong party wins! We just say "na na na na na, I didn't vote for that dickhead!" Because, we didn't vote for anyone! Cheers, Terry.

Rocking-M · « **Reply #41 on:** November 12, 2006, 02:15:18 PM »

Here in Virginia there is no one to back, " Mate". If there were I'd back him to the hilt.
Read my prior post. As I said I didn't mind beating the bushes for this one fellow and
then he decided to back out because the other canidate was thought to have a better
chance for the repups. The other fellow had no character and evidently my choice had no
stick to itness.

But back to your jab. I won't choose between the lesser of two evils. If there both
bad they will neither one get my backing, such as it is. Just because folks are
forced to choose between two plugs doesn't mean it's good to "cast a vote" as far
as I'm concerned that's a pretty big cop out too!!

But wait, I just read you didn't vote

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #42 on:** November 12, 2006, 03:55:07 PM »

Quote from: Rocking-M on November 12, 2006, 02:15:18 PM

Here in Virginia there is no one to back, " Mate". If there were I'd back him to the hilt.
Read my prior post. As I said I didn't mind beating the bushes for this one fellow and
then he decided to back out because the other canidate was thought to have a better
chance for the repups. The other fellow had no character and evidently my choice had no
stick to itness.

But back to your jab. I won't choose between the lesser of two evils. If there both
bad they will neither one get my backing, such as it is. Just because folks are
forced to choose between two plugs doesn't mean it's good to "cast a vote" as far
as I'm concerned that's a pretty big cop out too!!

But wait, I just read you didn't vote

Yeah, you picked up that jab mate, well done. I do vote, and I don't think that voting for the "lesser of two evils" is a cop out at all, it shows that not all the people are useless lazy buggers. You see, none of the parties or politicians are without sin, so if you sit on your ass waiting, you'll always have an excuse not to. Personally, if you don't vote, then you don't have an opinion, nor are you entitled to one! Cheers, Terry.

Bob Wessner · « **Reply #43 on:** November 12, 2006, 04:19:50 PM »

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I dunno much about that Orsome Wells guy either Bob

It was a reference to George Orwell, you know, 1984, his novel re: manipulation of the citizenry.

Rocking-M · « **Reply #44 on:** November 12, 2006, 04:47:54 PM »

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Yeah, you picked up that jab mate, well done. I do vote, and I don't think that voting for the "lesser of two evils" is a cop out at all, it shows that not all the people are useless lazy buggers. You see, none of the parties or politicians are without sin, so if you sit on your ass waiting, you'll always have an excuse not to. Personally, if you don't vote, then you don't have an opinion, nor are you entitled to one! Cheers, Terry.

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Now if that ain't a load of bs I don't know what is. Voting does mean one can have the wrong opnion also.
I pay taxes for my opinion, I ain't sucking a government tit here nor in Auzzi land.

My decision is to work to see all the piss poor politicians outted.
If I choose to go about it without voting for one scumbag over another
that is the way I'll go about it. But evidently you prefer to be manipulated,
and that's fine with me.

cafehonda · « **Reply #45 on:** November 12, 2006, 05:42:09 PM »

Remember, it was your laziness that allowed George and his cronies to win power in the last election, and Bill and his cronies before him. If you want better governments, get off your asses and do something about it, or just shut up, bend over, and assume the position! Cheers, Terry.

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With all due respect, mate, you don't seem to understand that we have a #$%*load of bible bangin' retards; we call them "the south". They vote because it's the christian thing to do, not because of a nuanced political belief. It's their way of getting back at us "Yankees" for winning the war and making them turn in their negros. Basically, it's the northeast and upper midwest against everybody else.Throw in the west coast too, but even the Mexicans in California are voting Republican because of some perceived moral superiority. If the rest of the world knew a little more about the fractured state of our states, it might help them understand the somewhat schizophrenic nature of our foreign policy. We do vote, it's just that there isn't an I.Q. test before you get your ballot, though I doubt it would help.
By the way,Terry, got any room at your place? When it gets bad enough around here, I'm coming to Oz.
I figure I'll fit right in on account of I got a big mouth and I drink too much.

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #46 on:** November 12, 2006, 06:58:08 PM »

Quote from: Rocking-M on November 12, 2006, 04:47:54 PM

Now if that ain't a load of bs I don't know what is. Voting does mean one can have the wrong opnion also.
I pay taxes for my opinion, I ain't sucking a government tit here nor in Auzzi land.

My decision is to work to see all the piss poor politicians outted.
If I choose to go about it without voting for one scumbag over another
that is the way I'll go about it. But evidently you prefer to be manipulated,
and that's fine with me.

Ha ha, no worries mate, how do you think that you're "outting" "piss poor politicians" if you can't get your butt into a polling booth, by BS'ing about them on this website?

If you want to get rid of them, vote 'em out, don't just BS about what a great job you're doing paying all them crooked politicians to do stuff you don't like, with all your tax dollars you're giving them? Geez, that'll learn 'em!

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #47 on:** November 12, 2006, 06:59:44 PM »

Quote from: Bob Wessner on November 12, 2006, 04:19:50 PM

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I dunno much about that Orsome Wells guy either Bob

It was a reference to George Orwell, you know, 1984, his novel re: manipulation of the citizenry.

Ha ha, it's alright Bob, I was just taking the piss, I've read "1984" and "Animal Farm", two of the most depressing books ever written........

ic455 · « **Reply #48 on:** November 12, 2006, 09:57:12 PM »

Quote from: Klark Kent on November 07, 2006, 08:27:23 AM

75% OF 18 - 24 YEAR OLDS DONT VOTE 75% OF AFRICAN AMERICANS DONT VOTE 50% OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS DO NOT VOTE.
GO SPEND YOUR LUNCH HOUR VOTING.
BECAUSE IF YOU DONT VOTE YOU CANT #$%*, AND WE ALL LOVE TO #$%*.

-I'M KK AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE.

I have to go with George Carlin on the #$%*ing thing: I can #$%* since I didn't vote and had nothing to do with the election of this person. (Mr. Carlin's position of course being that since the voters elected the people in question, it's the fault of the voters so they cannot #$%*)

so there is another George Carlin reference in this thread

Terry in Australia · « **Reply #49 on:** November 13, 2006, 02:22:07 AM »

Quote from: cafehonda on November 12, 2006, 05:42:09 PM

By the way,Terry, got any room at your place? When it gets bad enough around here, I'm coming to Oz.
I figure I'll fit right in on account of I got a big mouth and I drink too much.

No worries mate, there's plenty of room here, but you better bring that sweet Cafe bike with you, there aren't too many that nice on this side of the pond! Cheers, Terry.

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