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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #200 on: May 20, 2016, 03:22:08 AM »
I hear of these situations rather frequently. I am often amazed at how our anger at being cut off, drives us to these decisions. Consider that from the moment you reach out and damage the vehicle, 2 things are now true: 1- you are responsible for a crime (property damage), and 2- you may just have ignited the fuse of someone who will immediately turn to road rage, and run your arse over. Is "lane position" and being in the "right" that damn important? Why not simply roll off the throttle, let the dope take the space, then pass him at an opportune moment and be on your way. Shake it off, shrug your shoulders, and forget about it. It WILL KEEP HANPPENING. It's part of driving and riding these days.

Without question if a biker damaged my car for such a silly reason, I'd introduce him to my shoe laces. After I found him in the ditch from trying to evade me.

If the horn doesn't work, try the damn brakes.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #201 on: May 20, 2016, 08:50:21 AM »
Some sage perspective. 

I commute daily on the 405 Freeway in Southern California -- basically a crawling parking lot in places.  I see ALL kinds of shenanigans every day from cagers and motorcyclists.  Some of them really make me cringe, like lane-splitting (legal in California) at about 60-70 mph with traffic crawling at 5-10 mph (NOT LEGAL and damn unsafe).  I see cars cut off motorcyclists multiple times a day.  Every so often, I will see a motorcyclist retaliate (flipping off the cager, whacking the mirror, kicking the car, etc.).  I've been cut off by someone not seeing me or (worse) seeing me and wanting to stay ahead of me.  I've had drivers veer into my lane and see their eyes bulge when they actually look and see me in the lane they are closing off -- and they keep merging so I grab a handful of brake or worse yet they flip me off.

As Cal said, it WILL KEEP HAPPENING.  Avoid an accident, avoid an unnecessary fight.  Wait and pass.  I will try to remember the same.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #202 on: May 20, 2016, 01:37:10 PM »
I agree it wasn't the last option I had, but there is definitely a switch that can click over when you have those "you put my safety in danger just because you're a lazy #$%*" moments.  I hope he taped up his mirror and was more thoughtful when running people off the road in the future.  (im usually a very nice person  :-*)
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #203 on: May 20, 2016, 02:14:42 PM »
Oops... sorry to take this thing off topic with my 'hooligan' post.  Even though, I was the clown that posted that bit about armored knuckles and car mirrors... I have never done it nor do I condone it.  But to be honest... even more off topic.... I can't even flip the bird to anybody out on the road. IF I flip some idiot driver the bird, and they take offense to that and contact the authorities and maybe make up a story stating that I brandished my gun instead of flipped them the bird... I may lose my concealed weapons permit and be charged with a crime.  Or... even if they are honest to authorities and tell them I flipped them off... I could possibly be charged with a crime.  Not a good idea to provoke an altercation whilst carrying concealed.  Lots of responsibility comes with these permits.  I know Cal and I have discussed this before, but with great rights come great responsibilities.  BTW Cal... just re-certified for another 5 years last weekend.

Anyways... tough call on the horn.  I do tend to agree with Cal's opinion on the matter.  Also, my horn is pretty worthless.  Don... that is a pretty sweet horn you located, even if only for a conversation piece.  I would be interested to know if there is a lighter option out there.

Have a good weekend, fellas... and keep up the great work, Ser!

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #204 on: May 20, 2016, 02:21:03 PM »
No worries! 

Random question for the group, does anyone have extra D-shaped spacers that are used in the upper triple tree?  Or know of a place to buy them (or have the thichness dimension so I could make some)?  It looks like they are NLA from Honda.

I just realized my bike didnt have any in there, and one of the bolts had a standard head size... someone has been in here before.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #205 on: May 20, 2016, 05:02:51 PM »
You can source some standard washers that are thick enough, and use a bench grinder to flat spot them. I personally don't feel they need to be exactly the same thickness, just "thick enough" ought to do it.

By the way, sorry about the podium lecture. I literally just got back from 3,400 miles of driving in the past 6 days. I saw it all, I survived it all, and I am just damn skippy-happy to be home safe. It's a MAD, MAD, MAD world out there!
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #206 on: May 22, 2016, 10:06:28 AM »
The D washers are .090 thick, fairly easy to make....


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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #207 on: May 23, 2016, 12:16:09 PM »
Awesome, thanks for the info, I didnt want to pay $20 for two washers...

No worries Cal!  You are right on that one ;)

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #208 on: June 01, 2016, 01:05:47 PM »
long story short... Cliff is the man! I worked with him over email with terrible sketches and vague descriptions of what shape I was looking for and he NAILED IT.

Take a look at this beauty which is currently on its way home to LA!




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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #209 on: June 01, 2016, 02:52:31 PM »
Mr Meyer is very hard to beat. There are some others who are as good, equally talented, but seldom any better.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #210 on: June 01, 2016, 03:11:32 PM »
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #211 on: June 01, 2016, 04:06:16 PM »
Very nice work.  I like that crown at the very edge of the seat hump.  Cliff has some skills!
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #212 on: June 01, 2016, 07:55:18 PM »
I have ben thinking about paint schemes... but this thing is too pretty to cover up!  I;m thinking about using the brushed aluminium as a secondary color under some clear coat.

Lots of work to do before that call gets made.

In other news, I had TNK make me some fork tubes and those came in today as well!
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #213 on: June 01, 2016, 08:50:50 PM »
Man that seat is hot looking.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #214 on: June 01, 2016, 09:51:56 PM »
Quote from: riverfever on June 01, 2016, 08:50:50 PM
Man that seat is hot looking.

Thanks man!  I'm getting nervous that I won't be able to do justice to all of these parts coming in  :P
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #215 on: June 05, 2016, 12:29:44 PM »
The time has come to finally start putting some stuff together.  First up, RaceTech springs and gold valve emulators, TNK fork tubes, and new fork seals.




For these fork seals, which side is up?  They have springs on both sides with the main difference being one end on the inside is a little tighter than the other. 


« Last Edit: June 05, 2016, 01:07:42 PM by blacSOHC »
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #216 on: June 05, 2016, 01:51:28 PM »
I believe that it is labelled side down.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #217 on: June 05, 2016, 02:59:07 PM »
That makes sense as it would put the tightest part of the seal at the top
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #218 on: June 05, 2016, 07:05:45 PM »
Good choice on the RT parts...I just treated my bike to those and the results are fantastic.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #219 on: June 05, 2016, 07:43:01 PM »
I have heard great things, and am very excited to try them out someday :p

I wrapped up the polishing and THINK I have everything installed correctly.  I will need to setup the pre-load once the bike is together, and I THINK that is what the bag of 8 washers + PVC tube that came in the box is for...?

I filled the 15wt fluid about 6.5" from the very top of the tube (bottomed out, no spring, with emulator)

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #220 on: June 06, 2016, 07:43:14 AM »
Quote from: Bankerdanny on June 05, 2016, 01:51:28 PM
I believe that it is labelled side down.

Lettering is up.  BTW - I use the old seal to install the new.  [or use a large socket]

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« Reply #221 on: June 06, 2016, 11:04:47 AM »
Or a piece of PVC pipe and a rubber mallet hammer.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #222 on: June 06, 2016, 12:42:54 PM »
hmm... #$%*.   :-[

Do you think i will be ok reusing them if I can pull them out and flip them? They went in pretty easy so I dont think i would damage anything getting them out..

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« Reply #223 on: June 06, 2016, 02:07:31 PM »
Quote from: blacSOHC on June 06, 2016, 12:42:54 PM
hmm... #$%*.   :-[

Do you think i will be ok reusing them if I can pull them out and flip them? They went in pretty easy so I dont think i would damage anything getting them out..

No.  Don't be a cheapskate for something as important as fork seals.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #224 on: June 06, 2016, 02:31:34 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on June 06, 2016, 02:07:31 PM
Quote from: blacSOHC on June 06, 2016, 12:42:54 PM
hmm... #$%*.   :-[

Do you think i will be ok reusing them if I can pull them out and flip them? They went in pretty easy so I dont think i would damage anything getting them out..

No.  Don't be a cheapskate for something as important as fork seals.

Sounds good, new seals ordered.. Im more impatient on the shipping times than I am with cost.. I hate the waiting lol
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*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
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