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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #475 on: January 20, 2017, 05:09:19 am »
Quote from: BLAC on January 19, 2017, 10:56:55 pm
Allow me to be the 1,294th person to say it.... Nils is the man and vapor blasting is amazing...

Are you kidding me, this is amazing...


This might be the straw that broke the camels wallet.. I might have to split my case and send it off to get beautified

            Wow, That DOES do quite the job, on those parts! I am impressed!  8)
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #476 on: January 20, 2017, 06:20:07 am »
Quote from: BLAC on January 19, 2017, 10:56:55 pm

I might have to split my case and send it off to get beautified

I sent my H2 cases to him along with the cylinders and heads....no regrets!
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #477 on: January 20, 2017, 10:11:39 am »
Quote from: Stev-o on January 20, 2017, 06:20:07 am
Quote from: BLAC on January 19, 2017, 10:56:55 pm

I might have to split my case and send it off to get beautified

I sent my H2 cases to him along with the cylinders and heads....no regrets!
Yeah, I've already spoken with Nils about it but I'll definitely be sending him the pieces of the 550 engine in the not-too-distant future.  Nils does fantastic work.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #478 on: January 20, 2017, 10:47:59 am »
My fear is the regrets I get while trying to reassemble and the cost of a million new gaskets, bushings and bearings...  :'(

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #479 on: January 20, 2017, 11:01:42 am »
Your bigger fear should be finding out afterwards that you should have...  :(
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #480 on: January 20, 2017, 11:17:07 am »
True.. Ok, you have persuaded me, I'm going to do it. 

plz send Top Ramen

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #481 on: January 20, 2017, 11:20:18 am »
All that and a pack of Skittles, too!  8)
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #482 on: January 20, 2017, 12:49:52 pm »
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All that and a pack of Skittles, too!  8)

I also sent him my cylinder and head but that went on to Mike Rieck... I hope he got skittles in that one too ;)
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #483 on: January 20, 2017, 12:54:46 pm »
Quote from: BLAC on January 20, 2017, 12:49:52 pm
I also sent him my cylinder and head but that went on to Mike Rieck... I hope he got skittles in that one too ;)

The only way to do it.

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #484 on: January 20, 2017, 04:28:51 pm »
Now that the case is coming apart...

I'm thinking lightened/balanced crank by APE and shot peened and balanced rods... then I think I would have a nice fun setup? 
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #485 on: January 20, 2017, 04:31:23 pm »
Also, I bought 2 more gas tanks for mock ups, one of them is a late model (supersport?) tank....

I think I like the original tank shape more, but im undecided, what do you guys think?

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #486 on: January 20, 2017, 04:32:04 pm »
Save the money and buy REALLY GOOD shocks. Those will produce a better motorcycle than some internal tricks will. And every mile you ride you will take advantage of the premium suspension far more than some upper end HP gains.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #487 on: January 20, 2017, 04:49:09 pm »
I will have a custom built monoshock from Racetech and currently have the Racetech springs and gold valve emulators up front with brand new TNK fork tubes.

I originally wanted to do inverted forks up front but I decided I want to keep the look of the original forks. 

I am am also going to have Racetech dial in the front end setting (dampening, preload and static sag) while its in their shop, so I think the suspension should be pretty nice once it is all together.

Is there another route you would suggest while keeping the stock forks?
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #488 on: January 20, 2017, 05:47:33 pm »
You should probably dial in those preload/static suspension settings once the bike is complete including the weight of you & your gear.
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« Reply #489 on: January 20, 2017, 05:58:14 pm »
Ya, and I don't even have the head/cylinder back. It will be 2 trips, fortunately they are only 45 mins away =)
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #490 on: January 20, 2017, 09:07:37 pm »
Quote from: BLAC on January 20, 2017, 04:49:09 pm
I will have a custom built monoshock from Racetech and currently have the Racetech springs and gold valve emulators up front with brand new TNK fork tubes.

I originally wanted to do inverted forks up front but I decided I want to keep the look of the original forks. 

I am am also going to have Racetech dial in the front end setting (dampening, preload and static sag) while its in their shop, so I think the suspension should be pretty nice once it is all together.

Is there another route you would suggest while keeping the stock forks?

Another option to consider is a conventional (right-side-up) set of R6 forks (1998-2004).  2003-2004 offer the best spec - 43 mm telescopic fork w/adjustable preload, compression and rebound damping.  You can run a single brake disc that will be lighter than stock, handle better than stock and brake better than stock.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #491 on: January 21, 2017, 07:54:51 am »
Blac I have always liked the look of the Supersport tank but I prefer the orange tank and how it flows with the lines of the seat you have better. This is really going to be a head turner when you're done.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #492 on: January 21, 2017, 11:31:23 am »
Quote from: riverfever on January 21, 2017, 07:54:51 am
Blac I have always liked the look of the Supersport tank but I prefer the orange tank and how it flows with the lines of the seat you have better. This is really going to be a head turner when you're done.

I agree with you, I like the early K tank better, it feels a lot more elegant than the super sport, especially in relation to the shape of the seat cowl.

I bought another early tank that I'm going to start chopping up testing a few ideas with knee dents and the like.  I'll post pics when I have something to show
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #493 on: January 21, 2017, 05:49:26 pm »
Quote from: BLAC on January 20, 2017, 04:31:23 pm
Also, I bought 2 more gas tanks for mock ups, one of them is a late model (supersport?) tank....

I think I like the original tank shape more, but im undecided, what do you guys think?



           Just now seeing this and have to agree that the orange tank really adds a lot to the build. Good, to have at least 2 different tanks, to really see just how it would look, which is better than trying to picture it (at least, with my mind, it is better to actually see the difference. LOL  :D
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #494 on: January 22, 2017, 12:42:19 am »
As you may have noticed, I fell out of love with the position and angle of the subframe braces I originally made.  So I cut the tacks off of it, threw them to the side and bought another 30" of 7/8 chromoly pipe online.

I spent the last 4 hours getting them exactly how I want them and all fitted up nicely.  I am really happy with the shape now. Tomorrow I hope to make mounts for the monoshock and chop up my spare tank to see what I can make =)




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« Reply #496 on: January 22, 2017, 05:55:04 am »
 Is that a Meyerbuilt cowl?


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« Reply #497 on: January 22, 2017, 06:48:07 am »
Quote from: 540nova on January 22, 2017, 05:55:04 am
Is that a Meyerbuilt cowl?
Looks like Ian Halcott perhaps?
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #498 on: January 22, 2017, 07:25:29 am »
Quote from: BLAC on January 22, 2017, 12:42:19 am
As you may have noticed, I fell out of love with the position and angle of the subframe braces I originally made.  So I cut the tacks off of it, threw them to the side and bought another 30" of 7/8 chromoly pipe online.

I spent the last 4 hours getting them exactly how I want them and all fitted up nicely.  I am really happy with the shape now. Tomorrow I hope to make mounts for the monoshock and chop up my spare tank to see what I can make =)






           You know, that does give it a whole new look. Glad you went with your "2nd" thoughts. Can't wait to see the finished product and hear about the "Shakedown" run.  8) ;)
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #499 on: January 22, 2017, 09:51:43 am »
Quote from: calj737 on January 22, 2017, 06:48:07 am
Quote from: 540nova on January 22, 2017, 05:55:04 am
Is that a Meyerbuilt cowl?
Looks like Ian Halcott perhaps?

Yes it is from Cliff Meyers.  He also built the front fender (which I forgot to lay on the tire for the picture  :-\)
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