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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #825 on: March 01, 2017, 04:57:31 PM »
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #826 on: March 01, 2017, 07:50:16 PM »
Ordered  :D

I also got the DOW high vacuum grease, which I am guessing is fine to use around this piston also?
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #827 on: March 01, 2017, 07:54:00 PM »
It's not needed around the piston. The seal does perfectly well and you want it to be in direct surface contact with the piston to prevent any fluid from weeping past.

The Dow grease is for the back of the pad to prevent pad squealing.
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #828 on: March 01, 2017, 07:56:09 PM »
It's not needed around the piston. The seal does perfectly well and you want it to be in direct surface contact with the piston to prevent any fluid from weeping past.

The Dow grease is for the back of the pad to prevent pad squealing.

sorry I meant "around" as in might come in contact with.  it will be on the back of the pad which will touch the end of the piston (correct?) I just wanted to make sure the is was still ok to use there considering the new piston material.
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If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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« Reply #829 on: March 01, 2017, 07:57:08 PM »
You'll be fine.
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #831 on: March 05, 2017, 02:13:34 PM »
I got to meet Bryan aka Blac at his shop this morning.  What an amazing shop space!  The bike looks fantastic in person.  The subframe looks great and Cliff Meyer's seat fits it like a glove.  Parts are coming in and this bike is going to be awesome.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #832 on: March 05, 2017, 05:43:02 PM »
I got to meet Bryan aka Blac at his shop this morning.  What an amazing shop space!  The bike looks fantastic in person.  The subframe looks great and Cliff Meyer's seat fits it like a glove.  Parts are coming in and this bike is going to be awesome.

Thanks Don! It was great meeting you today. We will have to take the (running) bikes out for a cruise sometime!

Once I get my crank back from APE, my monoshock from Racetech  and my pistons/cylinder/head back from Mike.. this thing will be coming together pretty quickly.  At a standstill now but I did go through every shaft in the transmission today.

Completely disassembled, cleaned, lubed and reassembled them.

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« Last Edit: March 05, 2017, 06:26:02 PM by BLAC »
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
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*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #833 on: March 06, 2017, 10:14:49 AM »
I washed all of these shafts, washers, bearings and gears with a "chem dip parts cleaner" I then rinsed them off and rubbed them down with a light coat of wd-40.  As I assembled them back onto the shaft of which they came, I used a little bit of assembly lube and motor oil (just to keep them coated).

does all of that sound kosher?  just ckecking to make sure I havent done something stupid before I put them back into the cases  :-X
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #834 on: March 06, 2017, 11:27:20 AM »
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« Reply #835 on: March 06, 2017, 11:36:37 AM »
Grazie.  as a first timer going through it I periodically want to check in and make sure I havent done anything silly.

Im trying to avoid things like "YOU WIPED WD40 ON THE TRANSMISSION GEARS!? NO WONDER IT EXPLODED"   :P
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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« Reply #836 on: March 06, 2017, 11:49:32 AM »
Well, I would have said that had you not followed it up with oil and assembly lube. If you want a fluid to rinse parts, Diesel or Kerosene work great. Both are petroleum based and a solvent at the same time. Follow up with Assembly Lube for the "hard parts" in your motor.
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #837 on: March 08, 2017, 02:24:29 PM »
I can't believe I haven't come across this build before, great work!  The similarity between our builds is pretty nuts.  I guess we both have great taste.  :)  Subscribed.

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« Reply #838 on: March 09, 2017, 11:18:03 AM »
Hey Cal,

Where did you pick up your rotor by the CB550 disc conversion? I want to make sure I"m getting the right one as well.

Did mounting hardware also come with your P32 - or did you just have spare hardware?

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« Reply #839 on: March 09, 2017, 12:43:42 PM »
Where did you pick up your rotor by the CB550 disc conversion? I want to make sure I"m getting the right one as well.

Did mounting hardware also come with your P32 - or did you just have spare hardware?

Paul
Its a standard GSXR750 rear rotor spec. Choose any source and spend what you are willing. The caliper hardware was ordered (Devin gave me the specs).
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #840 on: March 09, 2017, 01:59:14 PM »
Where did you pick up your rotor by the CB550 disc conversion? I want to make sure I"m getting the right one as well.

Did mounting hardware also come with your P32 - or did you just have spare hardware?

Paul
Its a standard GSXR750 rear rotor spec. Choose any source and spend what you are willing. The caliper hardware was ordered (Devin gave me the specs).

FYI - Cognitomoto's website for the hub identifies a DUCATI Monster 400 600 620 750 800 888 9001000 rotor.  That said, IF Cal says a GSXR rotor fits, they both likely work with the hub.

https://cognitomoto.com/collections/hubs-wheelgoods/products/cb500-cb550-rear-hub-disc-brake-conversion
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #841 on: March 09, 2017, 02:58:50 PM »
I have not been following this thread...but seeing your trans gears/shaft there make me want to say that having my trans back-cut was one of the best things I have done to my bike...
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« Reply #842 on: March 09, 2017, 03:09:32 PM »
Where did you pick up your rotor by the CB550 disc conversion? I want to make sure I"m getting the right one as well.

Did mounting hardware also come with your P32 - or did you just have spare hardware?

Paul
Its a standard GSXR750 rear rotor spec. Choose any source and spend what you are willing. The caliper hardware was ordered (Devin gave me the specs).

FYI - Cognitomoto's website for the hub identifies a DUCATI Monster 400 600 620 750 800 888 9001000 rotor.  That said, IF Cal says a GSXR rotor fits, they both likely work with the hub.

https://cognitomoto.com/collections/hubs-wheelgoods/products/cb500-cb550-rear-hub-disc-brake-conversion

Noted, thanks fellas. Think this one should work out, unless there are any cheaper ones that I haven't come across (http://www.2wheelpros.com/brembo-oe-brake-disc-245x4mm-ducati-yamaha-2358316.html).

Unfortunately had to send my hub back to Devin as my cush drive dampers were a year newer than what he had manufactured the hub for - he's re-making it though thankfully.
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #843 on: March 09, 2017, 03:34:50 PM »
Where did you pick up your rotor by the CB550 disc conversion? I want to make sure I"m getting the right one as well.

Did mounting hardware also come with your P32 - or did you just have spare hardware?

Paul
Its a standard GSXR750 rear rotor spec. Choose any source and spend what you are willing. The caliper hardware was ordered (Devin gave me the specs).

FYI - Cognitomoto's website for the hub identifies a DUCATI Monster 400 600 620 750 800 888 9001000 rotor.  That said, IF Cal says a GSXR rotor fits, they both likely work with the hub.

https://cognitomoto.com/collections/hubs-wheelgoods/products/cb500-cb550-rear-hub-disc-brake-conversion

Noted, thanks fellas. Think this one should work out, unless there are any cheaper ones that I haven't come across (http://www.2wheelpros.com/brembo-oe-brake-disc-245x4mm-ducati-yamaha-2358316.html).

Unfortunately had to send my hub back to Devin as my cush drive dampers were a year newer than what he had manufactured the hub for - he's re-making it though thankfully.

My supplier was $71 shipped. 

1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #844 on: March 09, 2017, 03:37:03 PM »
Where did you pick up your rotor by the CB550 disc conversion? I want to make sure I"m getting the right one as well.

Did mounting hardware also come with your P32 - or did you just have spare hardware?

Paul
Its a standard GSXR750 rear rotor spec. Choose any source and spend what you are willing. The caliper hardware was ordered (Devin gave me the specs).

FYI - Cognitomoto's website for the hub identifies a DUCATI Monster 400 600 620 750 800 888 9001000 rotor.  That said, IF Cal says a GSXR rotor fits, they both likely work with the hub.

https://cognitomoto.com/collections/hubs-wheelgoods/products/cb500-cb550-rear-hub-disc-brake-conversion

Noted, thanks fellas. Think this one should work out, unless there are any cheaper ones that I haven't come across (http://www.2wheelpros.com/brembo-oe-brake-disc-245x4mm-ducati-yamaha-2358316.html).

Unfortunately had to send my hub back to Devin as my cush drive dampers were a year newer than what he had manufactured the hub for - he's re-making it though thankfully.

My supplier was $71 shipped.

Mind if you forward me a link as well? Got to save where I can, #studentlife.

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« Reply #845 on: March 10, 2017, 01:45:40 AM »
I have not been following this thread...but seeing your trans gears/shaft there make me want to say that having my trans back-cut was one of the best things I have done to my bike...

Interesting... I inspected all of the gears and none of the dogs showed any wear (or marks for that matter) so I assumed I would be fine leading them stock.  What about having them back-cut improved the bike so much? Were you having issues with it popping out of the lower gears?
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
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« Reply #846 on: March 10, 2017, 02:18:21 PM »
Just got a call from APE, crank and studs are done and being shipped today!

In other exciting news, I am headed to Iceland (for the third time) in a couple months and just ordered this to take with me.. I will be sure to have some tracking/follow shots done once my bike is done also  8)

If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #847 on: March 10, 2017, 06:23:31 PM »
Just got a call from APE, crank and studs are done and being shipped today!

In other exciting news, I am headed to Iceland...

Mind if we ask what you will be doing? (Business or pleasure?)

There is a member in Iceland, he has posted some incredibly beautiful pictures of his country. 
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« Reply #848 on: March 10, 2017, 07:02:19 PM »
Just got a call from APE, crank and studs are done and being shipped today!

In other exciting news, I am headed to Iceland...

Mind if we ask what you will be doing? (Business or pleasure?)

There is a member in Iceland, he has posted some incredibly beautiful pictures of his country. 

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« Reply #849 on: March 11, 2017, 12:33:24 PM »
I'm taking my girlfriend with me to celebrate my 30th birthday and our anniversary.  We are rolling them into one shebang.

I have been to Iceland before and it is absolutely the most beautiful, diverse and unique landscape I have ever seen.  Cam like you said it does look alien, when you are there you are constantly saying "this does not look like earth".

I'll dig up some photos of my last couple trips and post them here ;)
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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