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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #150 on: April 01, 2016, 05:46:58 AM »
Parts on the way:

Race Tech Springs
Racetech Gold Valve Emulators

18" Excel Takasago Rims (Shouldered) in 2.15" and 2.5"
Avon Roadrider tires 100/90-18 and 120/80-18
Spokes from Buchannan's (where they are being laced and trued

All Ballz Wheel Bearings (front and rear)


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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #151 on: April 06, 2016, 06:15:21 PM »
Does anyone have stock 1974 CB550 hubs (front and rear) they are looking to sell? I want to get a separate set so I can keep my stock wheels complete while Buchannans laces up my new setup.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #152 on: April 06, 2016, 08:04:08 PM »
Does anyone have stock 1974 CB550 hubs (front and rear) they are looking to sell? I want to get a separate set so I can keep my stock wheels complete while Buchannans laces up my new setup.

HA - if you find such a thing, and it may exist, I'm commenting in here cuz I need to re-lace mine as well, but I don't want the down time.

Looks like we're both willing to throw money at it.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #153 on: April 06, 2016, 08:10:37 PM »
Im looking online and it looks like stock laced wheels are only worth a couple hundred for a nice set, so not really worth investing in more hubs to sell my stock ones... I think im just going to chop up my stockers and use my original hubs.

If anyone is interested in just the rim + practically new tires for a cb550 let me know, I have some to sell =)
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #154 on: April 06, 2016, 08:15:35 PM »

If anyone is interested in just the rim + practically new tires for a cb550 let me know, I have some to sell =)


What kind/size of tires?  What is the date code??
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #155 on: April 06, 2016, 08:19:04 PM »
Also, let me know how Buchanan's works out - I have a place here in Garden Grove I'm looking' at.  Be nice to have a user recommendation just for a basis.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #156 on: April 07, 2016, 03:29:58 AM »
Also, let me know how Buchanan's works out -
I've used Buchanans for multiple wheels and always been extremely pleased with them.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #157 on: April 07, 2016, 04:14:52 AM »
Does anyone have stock 1974 CB550 hubs (front and rear) they are looking to sell? I want to get a separate set so I can keep my stock wheels complete while Buchannans laces up my new setup.

I have a stock set from a 77/78 I believe. Sext me.

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #158 on: April 07, 2016, 07:44:57 AM »
Also, let me know how Buchanan's works out -
I've used Buchanans and always been extremely pleased with them.

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #159 on: April 07, 2016, 08:44:30 AM »
Also, let me know how Buchanan's works out -
I've used Buchanans and always been extremely pleased with them.

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #160 on: April 07, 2016, 09:50:32 AM »
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #161 on: April 07, 2016, 10:52:35 AM »
Does anyone have stock 1974 CB550 hubs (front and rear) they are looking to sell? I want to get a separate set so I can keep my stock wheels complete while Buchannans laces up my new setup.

I have a stock set from a 77/78 I believe. Sext me.


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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #162 on: April 07, 2016, 11:39:24 AM »
Lololololol good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this board

So I have already ordered spokes and to have the wheels drilled for my 74, will that mess anything up if I send them hubs from a 77/78?
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
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*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #163 on: April 07, 2016, 01:05:58 PM »
Lololololol good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this board

So I have already ordered spokes and to have the wheels drilled for my 74, will that mess anything up if I send them hubs from a 77/78?

yes. the hubs from 74-76 are different from 77-78

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #164 on: April 07, 2016, 02:03:03 PM »
fak, I had a feeling.

If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
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« Reply #165 on: April 07, 2016, 07:50:51 PM »
My girlfriend just gave me an iPad so I could stay on this site while I was out in the garage.  I thought it was really nice, now I'm not sure if she is just trying to get rid of me  :P

Thanks again everyone for your advice and help.  I would be a mess without y'all!
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #166 on: April 07, 2016, 08:46:31 PM »
Don't start "Sexting" GV now!

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #167 on: April 07, 2016, 11:41:24 PM »
Well I finished putting together my carbs and mounted hem up on the bike....

It started dripping gas from the T between 1 and 2...

I decided to kick it and see what happened anyway.  It actually started up on the second kick, it was running strange and inconsistent (to be expected since the carbs have not been synced or adjusted at all) BUT I felt the pipes as it was running on only cylinder 1 and 2, just like it was before I rebuilt the carbs.

Since rebuilding the carbs I have also installed Dyna coils, new wires and plugs.  It's getting spark across all 4 also...

Sigh.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #168 on: April 08, 2016, 05:17:16 AM »
Lololololol good thing my girlfriend doesn't read this board

So I have already ordered spokes and to have the wheels drilled for my 74, will that mess anything up if I send them hubs from a 77/78?

yes. the hubs from 74-76 are different from 77-78

Yup, as I mentioned via sext.....my hubs are actually 74-76....we had to turn down a spacer as the 77-78 spacing is different due to the different offset of the drum cover. Wasn't a big deal but, if you need/want them just let me know homie.

Glad this thing is coming together, it's going to be marvelous.

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #169 on: April 08, 2016, 06:14:41 AM »
Well I finished putting together my carbs and mounted hem up on the bike....

It started dripping gas from the T between 1 and 2...

I decided to kick it and see what happened anyway.  It actually started up on the second kick, it was running strange and inconsistent (to be expected since the carbs have not been synced or adjusted at all) BUT I felt the pipes as it was running on only cylinder 1 and 2, just like it was before I rebuilt the carbs.

Since rebuilding the carbs I have also installed Dyna coils, new wires and plugs.  It's getting spark across all 4 also...

Sigh.

have you checked/adjusted valve clearances?

if it's leaking at the overflow for 1&2, fuel level in the bowls is too high. if the other two are not running, fuel level may be too low....have you set all the float heights per the manual and verified the float valves are seating properly and cutting off fuel?

beyond that, all that's left is check timing with a timing light and sync the carbs.

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. It's cash fire time.
« Reply #170 on: April 11, 2016, 11:49:26 AM »
I got it running on all 4, not tuned or anything but it runs, revs and idles so I decided to pull it apart so I can start on the real build + final assembly =)

I have officially hit the point of "no going back"

If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #171 on: April 15, 2016, 04:49:02 PM »
I found a lot of dried, cooked and crispy wired while pulling the wiring harness.. so it looks like I'm going to have to go with the Motogadget M-Unit.

For a battery, I am looking at Shorai.  I will only need something small since the bike will be kick only, any popular choices in that line that stick out above the rest?
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*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #172 on: April 15, 2016, 05:21:26 PM »
LFX14A2 from Shorai. Its not the cranking amps you need, but you need the A/hr rating for your bike to survive idling through traffic.

You can still get stock harnesses, or rebuild a new one without the M-unit. But I do like them... :D
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« Reply #173 on: April 15, 2016, 05:33:26 PM »
Traffic.. how did you know I lived in LA  :P

I was thinking about finding a stock harness. but I want to minimize and simplify everything on this bike (no horn, no starter, etc etc.  Just the bare minimum to let the bike run)

I have been reading your writeups on the M-Unit and it looks like what I need (not cheap though!).  It also looks ALMOST easy enough that I MIGHT be able to figure it out... I loathe electrical work.  >:(

If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlackSOHC"
« Reply #174 on: April 15, 2016, 05:48:03 PM »
They are easy, and you can do it. But, and don't interpret me as trying to talk you out of buying one, you can achieve your goals without it.

I encourage them when: stock components are not being used (handlebar controls, lighting, etc), the stock harness is bothered beyond recognition, and relocation of electrical components is desirable. If you meet 2 of the 3 criteria, then absolutely, it makes everything much easier.

As for "naked" components on your bike, you can remove the horn and not effect the harness. You can remove lights, and not effect the harness. You can disconnect the wiring for the starter motor, and not effect the harness. So if your budget gets tight, then I'd question: "With a bare essentials bike, why Spend $300 on a multi-circuit digital fuse box to control functions you aren't going to be using?" See my point?

The M-unit controls all the lighting, the electric starter, the horn, etc. But you're ditching these things. From the sound of it, you really only need 2 fuses: MAIN and TAIL. Are you planning on running the stock ignition or switching to electronic?

You can wire your bike based upon the following diagram with as much ease as the M-unit provides, especially given how simplified a machine you plan to operate.


Maybe this makes better sense now-
'74 550 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=126401.0
'73 500 Build http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132935.0

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