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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #300 on: September 13, 2016, 02:46:41 PM »
blacSOHC,

This is looking great!
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #301 on: September 13, 2016, 04:13:09 PM »
Quote from: luvmy71 on September 13, 2016, 02:17:55 PM
Did I see an Oregon Ducks Fiesta Bowl t-shirt somewhere along the way?   Go Ducks!!!  Class of '81 when it was painful.

I live right down the 5 in San Diego.  Would love to connect with all the LA board members sometime when there is a fun event.

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #302 on: September 13, 2016, 04:18:38 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on September 13, 2016, 02:46:41 PM
blacSOHC,

This is looking great!

Thank you!  It has been a ton of nitty gritty work, but overall its coming together nicely (I think)

Here is another photochop of the bike with a spring ;)


I am liking all the angles in the rear, I used the same dimension (different size and flipped) triangle to keep all of the angles in a similar family, I think it is looking intentional at least lol

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #303 on: September 13, 2016, 05:17:07 PM »
Looking great. I'd paint that brake stay black as well. You'll have another "angle" running through there with the push rod.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #304 on: September 19, 2016, 07:42:00 PM »
I haven't been around much since school started up. Glad to see you're still plugging away. Bike's really looking super man. Really impressed with what you're doing. Keep at it.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #305 on: September 19, 2016, 08:00:37 PM »
Quote from: riverfever on September 19, 2016, 07:42:00 PM
I haven't been around much since school started up. Glad to see you're still plugging away. Bike's really looking super man. Really impressed with what you're doing. Keep at it.

Thanks I appreciate it!  Getting the monoshock ordered and mounts fabbed will be the next time suck on the roadmap.  I have been to NY 3 times this month on business, so shop time has been slim.  Once I get the shock in, I will toss the motor back in it and get it all mocked up so I can make sure the tabs I think I want to cut off the frame are actually unused and then its time for disassembly, powdercoat, and then trying to figure out how it all goes back together =)
 
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #306 on: November 28, 2016, 09:54:04 AM »
A little update:

I have been making slow and steady progress that I will update this thread with once I get a little free time, but for now I will just share this piece I got from Cliff =)

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #307 on: November 28, 2016, 06:34:17 PM »


        Just got into this thread and this is some kind of cool build, with lots of great input. I will be checking for updates on this one. I am one of those who would like to see those as nice as this, be restored, but I am really liking the thought put into this, and after all, he who provides the bucks, has final say, right? I'm subscribed brother, build on.  8) ;)
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #308 on: November 29, 2016, 07:49:14 AM »
I've never seen wheel weights like that, home made?


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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #309 on: November 29, 2016, 09:16:10 AM »
Nice fender.  How are you planning to mount it? 
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #310 on: November 29, 2016, 06:58:47 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on November 29, 2016, 09:16:10 AM
Nice fender.  How are you planning to mount it? 

+1.  And polish it to match fork lowers?
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #311 on: December 02, 2016, 12:52:04 AM »
Quote from: Stev-o on November 29, 2016, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on November 29, 2016, 09:16:10 AM
Nice fender.  How are you planning to mount it? 

+1.  And polish it to match fork lowers?


I drilled out the rivets on the stock fender and am looking at lowering the side risers to bring it in tighter to the tire or make a custom 'bracket strap'.  I made a template out of cardboard that should work, i just need to make sure that the asymmetry of the brake side is bent and shaped right.. it wont be easy, but I think I will be able to fab up something (hopefully out of aluminum so I can weld directly to it on the inside) that will work.

Yes Im planning on polishing it to match the fork lowers, and maybe to a pinstripe of color around the crease to pop some color, once I figure out the pant scheme..
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #312 on: December 02, 2016, 12:52:39 AM »
Quote from: 540nova on November 29, 2016, 07:49:14 AM
I've never seen wheel weights like that, home made?


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I have the wheels laced by Buchannan's and I guess that is the 'period correct' style? not sure but I am told it works haha
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #313 on: December 02, 2016, 12:57:55 AM »
Quote from: bill440cars on November 28, 2016, 06:34:17 PM


        Just got into this thread and this is some kind of cool build, with lots of great input. I will be checking for updates on this one. I am one of those who would like to see those as nice as this, be restored, but I am really liking the thought put into this, and after all, he who provides the bucks, has final say, right? I'm subscribed brother, build on.  8) ;)

Thanks for the kind words!  I totally understand where you are coming from regarding the originality.  This is my first time getting into a CB and I really wanted to see how things went together as a whole unit.  If I do another one in the future I will start from a bare frame (and all of the learning from this build  ;D)

I am investing a lot of time and money into it, once it's done my goal is for it to be a 'well executed' build.  I know style is subjective and isn't going to make everyone do backflips, but I'm doing my best not to cut any corners and really do it the right way.

Next step is to have RaceTech make my custom rear spring... anyone have $900 I can borrow?   :P
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #314 on: December 14, 2016, 09:04:54 PM »
Another mini update...

I have been in communication with RaceTech and am going to get my bike down to their shop in the next week or so to get a custom spring made with adjustable spring, dampening and ride-height.  I will officially have more into the suspension than I purchased the bike for... This this should (better) ride nice!  8)

I am not a conventional note taker... this is what I wrote down while talking with RaceTech  ???

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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #315 on: December 14, 2016, 10:33:27 PM »
another mini update!

I'm still pleasantly surprised by the quality of every piece I get from Cognito =)


« Last Edit: December 14, 2016, 10:45:46 PM by blacSOHC »
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #316 on: December 19, 2016, 07:33:19 AM »
Interesting note!  And yes, CM parts are very high quality and priced accordingly...
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #317 on: December 19, 2016, 09:30:17 AM »
Definitely.  I've never been disappointed with any parts Devin/Cognitomoto produces.  All very high quality.  I got something cool in the works right now!
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #318 on: January 03, 2017, 11:35:24 AM »
PROGRESS (but only a little)

My girlfriends family got me a Miller Digital Elite welding helmet for Christmas, this thing is awesome.  It has something called Xmode, which detects not only the welding arc, but the presence of electromagnetic energy and will darken, so basically even when you aren't directly looking into the arc, it will work properly.  Lots of settings and buttons im still figuring out, but its working great so far!



Back to the bike...

I got the new triple tree mocked up on the bike, looks awesome on there, but I noticed it doesnt sit as low on my bike, well I guess it is the same just more noticeable. which got me thinking, Is my top race for my tapered bearing down all the way? I think i got it all the way down but am not sure.  Anyone else have All Balls on their Cb550?




On to the frame/rearsets...

I finally took care of the tubing where I cut the subframe off.  Using some 1" tubing I shaped and filled the holes. I also got the file out any made all the waviness disappear (my back still hurts).





I saved my passenger peg mounts and found a way to get them to use them for the rearset mounts.. I think it looks cool in a "factory but different" way.  Ill get pics uploaded once I get them tacked up!

How she sits now!  I just have to get some more Chromoly tubing to remake the subframe supports and some flat stock for the mono-shock mounts then I drop it off at RaceTech for them to make me a custom spring!



Questions (because I always have a million):

1: Is my top race all the way down into the stem?
2: On the rearsets, is there a 'line' I need to get them lined up with, or is just "parallel" with the frame with a straight shot forward to the shifter area etc good enough?
« Last Edit: January 03, 2017, 11:45:56 AM by blacSOHC »
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #319 on: January 03, 2017, 11:52:52 AM »
Nice patchwork!
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550 Build. "BlacSOHC"
« Reply #320 on: January 03, 2017, 12:00:40 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on January 03, 2017, 11:52:52 AM
Nice patchwork!

Thanks!  I am really getting excited because the overall shape of the bike is starting to come together!
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #321 on: January 03, 2017, 02:50:13 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on January 03, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
Your top race looks a little bit high, but they do sit proud of the tube ever so slightly it seems. Mine was not quite that much above when last I installed them.


I don't see a picture regarding your rear set/foot peg positioning. If asking solely for information purposes, align the outboard face of the peg with the outboard edge of the tubing. That will allow you a straighter shot with whatever shift rod you will use. Worst case, you can buy an offset shift arm to install on the splined shaft. Fast From the Past sells various components for rear set customizations.

Bah, not sure what happened to the pic of the rear set, I'll snap another one when I get back to my shop.

Regarding the top race, I'll do a little more investigating and see if there is room to move it down but I think the cb550's sit up pretty high like that :/  at least in the research I have done online.  I will get a bright light in there to see if there is any room also.  The good thing is I have room for plenty of threads due to the slimmer profile of the cognito piece.

Thanks for your thoughts and feedback, I honestly would not have bought this bike or started this project if it wasn't for this forum  ;D
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #322 on: January 04, 2017, 04:25:36 PM »
I can take a look at mine but it's gonna probably be Saturday before I can do it and get you a picture.
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #323 on: January 04, 2017, 06:36:30 PM »
Quote from: riverfever on January 04, 2017, 04:25:36 PM
I can take a look at mine but it's gonna probably be Saturday before I can do it and get you a picture.

The top race? No hurry, I shined a light down there and it is fully seated without room to go down.. i think that's just how they are.  Thanks though!
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If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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Re: 1974 Honda CB550. Monoshock. "BLAC"
« Reply #324 on: January 04, 2017, 06:45:04 PM »
I'm now in the habit of measuring the pocket and the race, just to take the guesswork out.

Are you painting this frame as opposed to powdercoat? I ask because if powder is the plan you ought to leave the races out for now.
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