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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #750 on: February 15, 2017, 03:42:17 pm »
rocks on the freeway can be a #$%*.  My family friend built a trailer, powder coated it, then a week after he finished it, the leading edge got chipped up after hitting a patch of loose gravel, got wet and the moisture spread under the powder coat.  He stripped it down to the metal then painted it.

Not saying that is all that common or going to happen on my bike, just saying that is one attribute of powder coat I don't love.

My trade is in industrial epoxies, done both electrostatic and lots powdercoating too, if powdercoating is done well it is the most durable coating of the lot, I'd say the prep wasn't that good if a small piece of gravel chipped the powder, it should take a much bigger hit than that.  Everyone knows someone with a "story".... ;D
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« Reply #751 on: February 15, 2017, 03:52:21 pm »
In my experience, powdercoating has withstood rocks, gas, oil and environmental exposure better than paint.  I have not seen powdercoat chip unless you drop it against the ground, hit it with a hammer or other hardened implement -- but that's just me.  As Mick says, everyone has a story. . .

FYI - I painted my last engine with VHT paint because (then) beadblasting and powdercoating the cases was a pain in the butt to make sure all of the media was cleared out.
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #752 on: February 15, 2017, 03:58:20 pm »
In my experience, powdercoating has withstood rocks, gas, oil and environmental exposure better than paint.  I have not seen powdercoat chip unless you drop it against the ground, hit it with a hammer or other hardened implement -- but that's just me.  As Mick says, everyone has a story. . .

FYI - I painted my last engine with VHT paint because (then) beadblasting and powdercoating the cases was a pain in the butt to make sure all of the media was cleared out.

I never said it wasnt resilient or I disliked powder coat  :P Im going to powdercoat my frame.  I just dislike how you cant repair damage without redoing it all.  As far as engine cases are concerned, I agree powder coat is perfect for that application (probably better than paint when considering the gas/oil it will contact), I just prefer the look of bare metal.
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #753 on: February 15, 2017, 03:59:56 pm »
In my experience, powdercoating has withstood rocks, gas, oil and environmental exposure better than paint.  I have not seen powdercoat chip unless you drop it against the ground, hit it with a hammer or other hardened implement -- but that's just me.  As Mick says, everyone has a story. . .

FYI - I painted my last engine with VHT paint because (then) beadblasting and powdercoating the cases was a pain in the butt to make sure all of the media was cleared out.

I never said it wasnt resilient or I disliked powder coat  :P Im going to powdercoat my frame.  I just dislike how you cant repair damage without redoing it all.  As far as engine cases are concerned, I agree powder coat is perfect for that application (probably better than paint when considering the gas/oil it will contact), I just prefer the look of bare metal.

You can repair damaged powder without having to redo the whole thing, if you have the facilities and if you know what you are doing... 8)
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #754 on: February 15, 2017, 04:07:48 pm »
In my experience, powdercoating has withstood rocks, gas, oil and environmental exposure better than paint.  I have not seen powdercoat chip unless you drop it against the ground, hit it with a hammer or other hardened implement -- but that's just me.  As Mick says, everyone has a story. . .

FYI - I painted my last engine with VHT paint because (then) beadblasting and powdercoating the cases was a pain in the butt to make sure all of the media was cleared out.

I never said it wasnt resilient or I disliked powder coat  :P Im going to powdercoat my frame.  I just dislike how you cant repair damage without redoing it all.  As far as engine cases are concerned, I agree powder coat is perfect for that application (probably better than paint when considering the gas/oil it will contact), I just prefer the look of bare metal.

Nuff said.  I think we whipped that dead horse plenty!  ;)  At least it wasn't an oil or forkbrace thread!  ;D
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #755 on: February 15, 2017, 04:09:27 pm »
In my experience, powdercoating has withstood rocks, gas, oil and environmental exposure better than paint.  I have not seen powdercoat chip unless you drop it against the ground, hit it with a hammer or other hardened implement -- but that's just me.  As Mick says, everyone has a story. . .

FYI - I painted my last engine with VHT paint because (then) beadblasting and powdercoating the cases was a pain in the butt to make sure all of the media was cleared out.

I never said it wasnt resilient or I disliked powder coat  :P Im going to powdercoat my frame.  I just dislike how you cant repair damage without redoing it all.  As far as engine cases are concerned, I agree powder coat is perfect for that application (probably better than paint when considering the gas/oil it will contact), I just prefer the look of bare metal.

Nuff said.  I think we whipped that dead horse plenty!  ;)  At least it wasn't an oil or forkbrace thread!  ;D

Agreed! 

p.s. what type of oil do you recommend for your forkbrace?   :P
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #756 on: February 15, 2017, 04:11:32 pm »
In my experience, powdercoating has withstood rocks, gas, oil and environmental exposure better than paint.  I have not seen powdercoat chip unless you drop it against the ground, hit it with a hammer or other hardened implement -- but that's just me.  As Mick says, everyone has a story. . .

FYI - I painted my last engine with VHT paint because (then) beadblasting and powdercoating the cases was a pain in the butt to make sure all of the media was cleared out.

I never said it wasnt resilient or I disliked powder coat  :P Im going to powdercoat my frame.  I just dislike how you cant repair damage without redoing it all.  As far as engine cases are concerned, I agree powder coat is perfect for that application (probably better than paint when considering the gas/oil it will contact), I just prefer the look of bare metal.

Nuff said.  I think we whipped that dead horse plenty!  ;)  At least it wasn't an oil or forkbrace thread!  ;D

Agreed! 

p.s. what type of oil do you recommend for your forkbrace?   :P

Come on, guys!  It's all ball bearings these days!

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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #757 on: February 16, 2017, 03:20:03 am »
After powdercoating my frame, I noticed a blemish that bothered me, where I didn't finish the grinding adequately. I had my painter blend it out, and painted that section in perfectly matching acrylic enamel paint. Powdercoated frames can be touched up.


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« Reply #758 on: February 16, 2017, 10:01:36 am »
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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« Reply #759 on: February 16, 2017, 10:51:24 am »
p.s. what type of oil do you recommend for your forkbrace?   :P
All depends upon whether the brace is painted or powder coated.
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« Reply #760 on: February 16, 2017, 10:51:51 am »
LOL, beating a dead horse. I get it.


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« Reply #761 on: February 16, 2017, 11:00:33 am »
LOL, beating a dead horse. I get it.
It's not beating a dead horse; it's called persistence until we persuade you to do the right thing. Like vapor blasting your cases.  ;D

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« Reply #762 on: February 16, 2017, 11:11:10 am »
Let the man build the bike the way he wants.. Not long ago 1/2 the bikes in the world ran bare cases and heads..
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« Reply #763 on: February 16, 2017, 11:26:03 am »
Let the man build the bike the way he wants.. Not long ago 1/2 the bikes in the world ran bare cases and heads..
Get up to speed, Frank. We are all having fun with each other  ::)
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« Reply #764 on: February 16, 2017, 12:09:41 pm »
Let the man build the bike the way he wants.. Not long ago 1/2 the bikes in the world ran bare cases and heads..
Get up to speed, Frank. We are all having fun with each other  ::)


haha All in good fun!  and its not "beating the dead horse" its "beating the living bryan into submission"   :P

PS im off to Racetech with my frame!
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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #765 on: February 16, 2017, 01:00:59 pm »
Let the man build the bike the way he wants.. Not long ago 1/2 the bikes in the world ran bare cases and heads..
Get up to speed, Frank. We are all having fun with each other  ::)


haha All in good fun!  and its not "beating the dead horse" its "beating the living bryan into submission"   :P

PS im off to Racetech with my frame!

Those boys will have that monoshock sorted in no time.
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« Reply #766 on: February 16, 2017, 02:55:49 pm »
Just pulling up now, I'll report with news in a few :)
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« Reply #767 on: February 16, 2017, 03:50:48 pm »
Home for the week

If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

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« Reply #768 on: February 16, 2017, 11:05:15 pm »
Lucky lady! I'd like to live there too for a week!

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« Reply #769 on: February 17, 2017, 12:36:02 am »
This bike is just going to be freakin nasty!! i am so excited to see this come together..... may have to make a journey sometime out to Cali to meet and ride with some of you west coast fellas in person.... Don, Brian, etc.  #$%* maybe do a CB;s ride out (instead of babes ride out) haha.

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« Reply #770 on: February 17, 2017, 12:43:41 am »
Heck ya! Just let me put this pile of parts together first  :P
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« Reply #771 on: February 17, 2017, 11:46:47 am »
Im not sure what I am going to go yet for my color scheme on the bike, and next week I will have to let them know what color I want the spring on my monoshock to be...

Im thinking just a chrome spring would look good with everything, or doing Honda red, which would pop as well..

I would love to hear ideas!
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« Reply #772 on: February 17, 2017, 12:59:38 pm »
I vote red or black

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« Reply #773 on: February 17, 2017, 02:13:58 pm »
Always bet on black.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: 1974 CB550. Monoshock. Engine Build. "BLAC"
« Reply #774 on: February 17, 2017, 02:17:39 pm »
I vote red or black
My fear is black will disappear, not that that is the worst thing in the world.  The thought for the polished is to give the bike some symmetry.  The wheels are both polished, the front folk legs (tubes and lowers) are polished, I think it may look nice popping that color on the rear monoshock as well, but I still need to photoshop it.
If you can't fix it with a hammer, it's an electrical problem... If it's an electrical problem, it's Cal's problem.

*2005 Yamaha R6 (sold)
*2014 Ducati Streetfighter 848 (sold)
*2014 BMW S1000RR (sold)
*2010 Ducati Streetfighter S
*1978 CB550 Restomod Build
*1974 CB550 Monoshock build
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