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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #75 on: March 14, 2016, 08:31:03 PM »
Quote from: CBGhia on March 14, 2016, 08:07:24 PM
No new picture today, but the engine is together!  One big step!
Steve sent me some cb750 carbs, so those will also be on the bike soon!

Do yourself a favor and hook the carbs to some good insulators. Then you wont have to deal with possible air leaks.  What is your plan for air cleaner?
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #76 on: March 15, 2016, 05:23:19 AM »
Quote from: Stev-o on March 14, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
Do yourself a favor and hook the carbs to some good insulators. Then you wont have to deal with possible air leaks.  What is your plan for air cleaner?

I am looking at the Dragon Performance boxes http://www.steeldragonperformance.com/air_boxes_7.html
But I might get crazy and build my own using stock airbox boots and air cleaners for VW dual carbs.  Just need to try to line up holes or cut a new base plate. 
Like these:



Once I get everything mounted in the frame, I can test fit a bunch of styles laying around my buddy's shop (where we did all the welding and where the frame currently resides).
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #77 on: March 15, 2016, 06:34:41 AM »
Those Dragon boxes look cool.  Might have to get one for my bike.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #78 on: March 15, 2016, 08:47:03 AM »
The velocity stacks if sized and made properly can help at high throttle situations...
there is a science to them.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #79 on: March 15, 2016, 09:42:36 AM »
Dragon Performance does not presently make a box for the 650.  Note: they would need to make 2 different boxes since the spacing varies between the 79-80 and 81-82 models. 
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #80 on: March 15, 2016, 11:43:10 AM »
Quote from: RAF122S on March 15, 2016, 08:47:03 AM
The velocity stacks if sized and made properly can help at high throttle situations...
there is a science to them.

Yeah,  the stock velocity stacks for the airboxes are what I will probably use.
The Dragon boxes have velocity stacks built in, but i have never tried them so I cannot speak to the effectiveness.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2016, 07:52:51 PM »
Engine is in the frame!





Work was done in the middle of our VW gang meeting.

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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #82 on: March 21, 2016, 12:48:31 PM »
Just bought a pair of Progressive shocks for the rear.
These are from a CB1100F.   I will have to check the spring rate and maybe move the mounting point on the swing arm a bit.  These are a little long for a 550

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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #83 on: March 25, 2016, 09:41:50 AM »
Went to pull a few parts off of the old 550 engine.  Found that the #1 rod bearing is seized, so that is what locked up the engine. 
I suppose it's rebuildable if I ever get froggy and wanna hop on that.  Probably won't, though.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #84 on: March 25, 2016, 07:24:08 PM »
CBGhia,
Uh, nasty... Hope you weren't going fast when that seizure locked up the engine...
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #85 on: March 25, 2016, 07:44:53 PM »
Quote from: RAF122S on March 25, 2016, 07:24:08 PM
CBGhia,
Uh, nasty... Hope you weren't going fast when that seizure locked up the engine...
David

I was at the race track.  Luckily, the clutch was still working!
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #86 on: March 25, 2016, 07:47:28 PM »
Polishing stuff


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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #87 on: March 25, 2016, 07:58:35 PM »
You're progressing rapidly.  When do you think you'll have it running?
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #88 on: March 25, 2016, 08:52:56 PM »
Quote from: budman on March 25, 2016, 07:58:35 PM
You're progressing rapidly.  When do you think you'll have it running?

Wiring tomorrow. Hope to get that all buttoned up.  Carbs will also go on tomorrow.  Still gotta build a battery box and an electronics box for under the seat.  Maybe I can get it running by next weekend... Maybe.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #89 on: March 25, 2016, 09:52:58 PM »
 Like the shin bits, remind me to buy you a pair of work gloves!
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2016, 04:45:23 AM »
Quote from: Stev-o on March 25, 2016, 09:52:58 PM
Like the shin bits, remind me to buy you a pair of work gloves!
And a razor... UnaBomber?
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #91 on: March 26, 2016, 08:03:03 AM »
Quote from: Stev-o on March 25, 2016, 09:52:58 PM
Like the shin bits, remind me to buy you a pair of work gloves!

Yeah, I'll wear gloves when I do the next parts. 
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #92 on: March 26, 2016, 08:04:56 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on March 26, 2016, 04:45:23 AM
Quote from: Stev-o on March 25, 2016, 09:52:58 PM
Like the shin bits, remind me to buy you a pair of work gloves!
And a razor... UnaBomber?

I have a very nice German Merkur safety razor!  I just don't use it anymore.  Besides, the wife likes the beard. 
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #93 on: March 26, 2016, 08:21:39 AM »
Quote from: CBGhia on March 25, 2016, 07:47:28 PM


I need gloves because I find the parts get to hot to handle. Keeps the hands clean too but I typically end up with polishing debris all over my face. Gonna have to consider a beard I guess.  ;D
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #94 on: March 27, 2016, 06:30:22 AM »
Quote from: FunJimmy on March 26, 2016, 08:21:39 AM
Quote from: CBGhia on March 25, 2016, 07:47:28 PM


I need gloves because I find the parts get to hot to handle. Keeps the hands clean too but I typically end up with polishing debris all over my face. Gonna have to consider a beard I guess.  ;D

Remember though, you're going to have to clean the beard eventually, too. 
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #95 on: March 27, 2016, 09:37:36 AM »
Got no pictures from yesterday.  Got the cam installed.  I will say that the cam install was a #$%*!  I have never had any issues with a cam install in the past, but for some reason, the chain would not seat on the crank.  After 30 minutes, my buddy comes over to help and says "let's stand the bike straight up".  Mother effer!  I have always done it on the center stand, in the past.  This time, I was on the side stand.

Got the new shocks installed.
Started to put the wiring in.  The 650 harness is sooooo much easier than the 550.  Just got to fit everything together.  Getting closer!

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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #96 on: March 31, 2016, 07:21:42 PM »
Getting closer....



So, I forgot to order the spark plug wires.  I don't know anyplace that sells copper core by the foot, locally. 
I think I may be hosed for the show Saturday.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #97 on: March 31, 2016, 07:33:54 PM »
Looks good, Joe!  Auto Zone doesn't have any of these in stock?


http://www.autozone.com/ignition/wireset-performance-bulk-wire
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #98 on: March 31, 2016, 07:50:24 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on March 31, 2016, 07:33:54 PM
Looks good, Joe!  Auto Zone doesn't have any of these in stock?


http://www.autozone.com/ignition/wireset-performance-bulk-wire

They told me no, but I will stop back in and see.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #99 on: April 01, 2016, 12:43:58 AM »
Better consider using a dust mask the next time your polishing parts too. The stuff getting in your lungs is not healthy.  Stuff that goes in rarely comes out, gets imbedded in the tiny air sacks of the lungs.

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