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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #100 on: April 01, 2016, 05:53:46 AM »
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Better consider using a dust mask the next time your polishing parts too. The stuff getting in your lungs is not healthy.  Stuff that goes in rarely comes out, gets imbedded in the tiny air sacks of the lungs.

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Yeah, probably a good idea, but I was wet sanding the whole time.  There was not a lot of dust floating around.  It all stuck to my hands and the rags.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #101 on: April 01, 2016, 08:16:35 AM »
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Quote from: Stev-o on March 31, 2016, 07:33:54 PM
Looks good, Joe!  Auto Zone doesn't have any of these in stock?


http://www.autozone.com/ignition/wireset-performance-bulk-wire

They told me no, but I will stop back in and see.

Good news.  The main hub store for Oreilly's sells plug wire by the foot!  Swinging by after work to pick some up!  Might be able to get this thing over to Rockers V Mods after all!
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #102 on: April 01, 2016, 03:55:32 PM »
 And bad news. The exhaust I had laying here, 4 into 1 isn't fitting.  So, no exhaust for the 650 engine.  Gotta start looking for one

It hits the oil filter housing, the number 3 pipe does not line up with the head, right and the end of the header points down.

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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
"The cleaner the dipstick, the closer to God." -Rev. Horton Heat
“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson

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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #103 on: April 01, 2016, 07:53:57 PM »
Ripple Rock sells a very nice Hindle and its priced in Canadian Dollars!
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #104 on: April 01, 2016, 08:07:31 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on April 01, 2016, 07:53:57 PM
Ripple Rock sells a very nice Hindle and its priced in Canadian Dollars!

It's nice, but still almost 600 bucks in US $. 


I wonder how those 550 stainless pipes will work if I modify the part to match the head.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #105 on: April 01, 2016, 08:16:21 PM »
Quote from: CBGhia on April 01, 2016, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: calj737 on April 01, 2016, 07:53:57 PM
Ripple Rock sells a very nice Hindle and its priced in Canadian Dollars!

It's nice, but still almost 600 bucks in US $. 



It's actually about $537 plus check with Ripple Rock.  They were selling these at a discount a few months ago.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #106 on: April 01, 2016, 08:37:18 PM »
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #107 on: April 01, 2016, 08:42:42 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on April 01, 2016, 08:37:18 PM
What year is the motor?  Would this work?   It's an imitation Kerker....


http://www.ebay.com/itm/WINNING-EXHAUST-HONDA-CB650C-80-81-4-INTO-1-Exhaust-System-CHROME-2220-NEW-/121740510794?hash=item1c584cc64a:g:l1MAAOSwMmBV21YQ&vxp=mtr

Interesting Kerker.  I'm not certain as to the description.  The 1979 and 1980 head are identical but different from the 1981 and 1982.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #108 on: April 01, 2016, 09:22:28 PM »
Winning performance is actually kerker...after kerkers wife divorced him and took his company
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #109 on: April 02, 2016, 07:24:05 PM »
I think that the one I have is a kerker.  It's pretty similar, it's just been tweaked.  I am going to figure this out, one way or another.

Anyone know off the top of their head how much taller the 650 engine is than the 550?
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #110 on: April 02, 2016, 08:23:42 PM »
I did get to make it to Rockers Vs Mods, but I had to borrow a friend's bike.



It was nice of him to loan it to me, but I'm not really a fan.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #111 on: April 02, 2016, 10:16:01 PM »
Quote from: CBGhia on April 02, 2016, 08:23:42 PM
It was nice of him to loan it to me, but I'm not really a fan.

Understandable.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #112 on: April 03, 2016, 09:19:43 AM »
Quote from: CBGhia on April 02, 2016, 08:23:42 PM
I did get to make it to Rockers Vs Mods, but I had to borrow a friend's bike.



It was nice of him to loan it to me, but I'm not really a fan.

Is that a Rocker or Mod??!
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #113 on: April 03, 2016, 10:27:14 AM »
Lol...thats a mocker rod
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #114 on: April 03, 2016, 11:43:04 AM »
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Lol...thats a mocker rod
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #115 on: April 03, 2016, 01:00:03 PM »
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Lol...thats a mocker rod
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #116 on: April 03, 2016, 01:11:46 PM »
hope you didnt trade your CB project for that!
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #117 on: April 03, 2016, 01:48:16 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on April 03, 2016, 01:11:46 PM
hope you didnt trade your CB project for that!

Haha,  no way dude.  I just put a rebuild kit in the carb.  Need to pick up a battery and some grips and it's a runner.
Think I am going to go black and OD green on it and add hard cases to the sides. 
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #118 on: April 17, 2016, 12:09:50 PM »
Sorry, no new updates. I was out of town last weekend and I just haven't messed with the bike. 
I was thinking about exhaust options.  The 550 exhaust is about 4mm smaller outside diameter. 
The delkavic exhaust uses 1.5mm stainless,  which is pretty thin compared to the stock headers. 
I think it already has a similar ID as the 650, but how hard would it be to use a tubing stretcher to bump it up 3-4mm? 
Pretty sure the 650 engine is less than 10mm taller, so it should fit on the bike pretty well.  I think...
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #119 on: April 17, 2016, 12:12:39 PM »
Quote from: CBGhia on April 17, 2016, 12:09:50 PM

I was thinking about exhaust options. 



What are the options, Joe?
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #120 on: April 17, 2016, 12:22:27 PM »
Take a look at the Hindle systems, Joe.

Kemp at Ripple Rock Racers has been working closely with Hindle to produce high performance systems for a lot of vintage bikes. They're sold in Canadian dollars to so that makes them extremely competitive to other products.

http://www.ripplerockracers.com/product/honda-cb650-hindle-stainless-steel-exhaust-fits-1979-82/
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #121 on: April 17, 2016, 12:54:34 PM »
Quote from: FunJimmy on April 17, 2016, 12:22:27 PM
Take a look at the Hindle systems, Joe.

Kemp at Ripple Rock Racers has been working closely with Hindle to produce high performance systems for a lot of vintage bikes. They're sold in Canadian dollars to so that makes them extremely competitive to other products.

http://www.ripplerockracers.com/product/honda-cb650-hindle-stainless-steel-exhaust-fits-1979-82/

Looks to be a very good option, $540 US [plus ship] for the SS header with shorty muffler.

Or $425 for just the header [if you have a muffler?]
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #122 on: April 17, 2016, 01:24:35 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on April 17, 2016, 12:12:39 PM
Quote from: CBGhia on April 17, 2016, 12:09:50 PM

I was thinking about exhaust options. 



What are the options, Joe?

I have been looking at the Hindle for $425 -$540 plus shipping from Canada.
The Delkavic that I think could easily be modified to fit on the 650 $240 - $350 - free shipping
Mac (don't really want that one, but more in my price range) $299-$399 depending on finish - free shipping
Winning Exhaust (Kerker) $500 free shipping
Somehow bend and modify the one I have to work (doubt it)

So, based on price alone, if I can stretch the Delcavic just 3-4mm then I could get the header and baffle that for $240, less than half the cost of the Hindle or the Header and muffler for only $340.  That's still $200 cheaper before shipping
And if it works, I feel like I would be doing a public service to all 650 owners by giving them another inexpensive exhaust option.
it really can't be that hard to stretch, can it? 
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #123 on: April 17, 2016, 06:58:22 PM »
You are taking about stretching the spacing of the exhaust header tubes? If so, I would be afraid it would first not seal well to the head as the exhaust ports would be at a slight angle if you are buying a 550 exhaust to fit the 650 head. The other thing I would be considering is if it would cause a crack over time.
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Re: My 550 do over thread. Getting a 650 upgrade
« Reply #124 on: April 17, 2016, 07:09:47 PM »
Quote from: RAF122S on April 17, 2016, 06:58:22 PM
You are taking about stretching the spacing of the exhaust header tubes? If so, I would be afraid it would first not seal well to the head as the exhaust ports would be at a slight angle if you are buying a 550 exhaust to fit the 650 head. The other thing I would be considering is if it would cause a crack over time.
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The diameter. Stretching it a few mm to match the 650 port. It already lines up the same.
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Quote from: dave500 on February 14, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
if you dont trial spin the camshaft in the head and cover you are a novice,with no natural mechanical appitude,destined for destruction.
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“Faster, Faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.”  - Hunter S. Thompson
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