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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #375 on: January 23, 2017, 07:39:37 AM »
Once in the oven to partial cure the orange and then once more in the oven for full cure of the clear coat.

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #376 on: January 23, 2017, 12:17:01 PM »
So, is the Harley logo a decal or powder?
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #377 on: January 23, 2017, 01:00:31 PM »
So, is the Harley logo a decal or powder?

The black part is a decal sealed under the clear coat, all the copper is powder.It was a biatch getting that decal centered over all those fine lines around the Harley logo.

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #378 on: January 23, 2017, 01:25:30 PM »
Is the bike up and running?

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #379 on: January 23, 2017, 01:30:43 PM »
Is the bike up and running?
Which one? No. Doing some finish up wiring and fixing a few glitches. It'll be ready for spring.

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #380 on: February 02, 2017, 02:04:55 PM »
Hmm, has been awhile.
I went down today, due to 70° weather out today, to the shop and fitted some standoffs to the front brake splitter, lowering it enough to clear the banjo ends from hitting the right fork stop. Easy fix completed in minutes and solved the issue. Now I need to shorten each brake line again.
I'm contemplating drilling the bars to hide the horn/hi/low switch wiring.





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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #381 on: February 02, 2017, 06:37:55 PM »
What is the sunburst like device on the forks?  Voltage regulator/rectifier with decorative cooling fins?  Unusual horn?

Glad the standoff solved the issue you had, too bad it created another.

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #382 on: February 02, 2017, 06:59:47 PM »
What is the sunburst like device on the forks?  Voltage regulator/rectifier with decorative cooling fins?  Unusual horn?

Glad the standoff solved the issue you had, too bad it created another.

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #383 on: February 02, 2017, 10:36:45 PM »
Not re-wiring then? You could ditch the zener and rectifier in favor of a modern reg/rec which can be placed somewhere less obtrusive (although I also think those old heatsinks add character too!)  :)
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #384 on: February 03, 2017, 07:42:47 AM »
Not re-wiring then? You could ditch the zener and rectifier in favor of a modern reg/rec which can be placed somewhere less obtrusive (although I also think those old heatsinks add character too!)  :)
I was confused as all hell when I went to put the electrics back on this bike as it had all the original electrics, yet had a r/r box bolted to the back of the rear fender. It seems my brother was in the process of changing it over but never finished wiring the r/r in. I'll get it running on the old system and change later up the road.

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #385 on: February 05, 2017, 08:27:57 AM »
Not re-wiring then? You could ditch the zener and rectifier in favor of a modern reg/rec which can be placed somewhere less obtrusive (although I also think those old heatsinks add character too!)  :)
I was confused as all hell when I went to put the electrics back on this bike as it had all the original electrics, yet had a r/r box bolted to the back of the rear fender. It seems my brother was in the process of changing it over but never finished wiring the r/r in. I'll get it running on the old system and change later up the road.

Why not upgrade the system now and b good to go the distance?
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #386 on: February 05, 2017, 08:36:10 AM »
Not re-wiring then? You could ditch the zener and rectifier in favor of a modern reg/rec which can be placed somewhere less obtrusive (although I also think those old heatsinks add character too!)  :)
I was confused as all hell when I went to put the electrics back on this bike as it had all the original electrics, yet had a r/r box bolted to the back of the rear fender. It seems my brother was in the process of changing it over but never finished wiring the r/r in. I'll get it running on the old system and change later up the road.

Why not upgrade the system now and b good to go the distance?
We decided it was better to get it running on the existing system and make sure there are no glitches before adding the R/R with possible other issues in the wiring.

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #387 on: February 07, 2017, 01:59:01 PM »
Gaiter clips showed up and fit the brake line perfectly. unfortunately the whole front end will need to come apart to install them.



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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #388 on: November 06, 2017, 03:09:11 PM »
Been awhile since I chimed in here. Went to Fla for 5 months to help a buddies trailer repair business and try making a go of it there with my powder coating operation in a much more visible location than my basement. Well after 5 months I had averaged $169/wk. Look this, I can be broke at home. So Imoved back and now have lost most of the year trying to get reestablished in my home town. During that time Photobucket got greedy and deleted everyones pics, which really sucks for a lot of major bike build threads where pics so important. I have since found a way to recover all those pics, but haven't quite figured it out yet. Anyways fortunately I have the pics all saved in my download file and can repost them.
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #389 on: November 06, 2017, 03:50:41 PM »
Nice job on the Triumph.What's it like being back home now ?
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #390 on: November 06, 2017, 03:59:55 PM »
Nice job on the Triumph.What's it like being back home now ?
Well the year is going to be a total loss. A week before I left Fla. my Dad passed away as my Mom was in surgery for a gall bladder issue that they fixed but discovered she has pancreatic cancer and we were advised to spend the holidays together this year as they haven't given her much longer than that. Getting geared back up here in the powder coatings been difficult and I've done about $100 worth since returning 2 months ago. I have added a new durable spray chrome system to my line up. I'm glad to be back home with my 5 cats and my motorcycles, but I need to start making some cash soon. Right now concentrating on family.

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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #391 on: November 06, 2017, 06:04:52 PM »
Sorry to hear about your folks. The bike will keep.
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #392 on: November 06, 2017, 07:45:27 PM »
 I think some folks on here would be willing to send you stuff to powdercoat.
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #393 on: November 06, 2017, 08:31:10 PM »
I think some folks on here would be willing to send you stuff to powdercoat.

I'm more than willing to give anyone on the site a discount to help me through the end of the year. I'd like to push this new chrome system and get as proficient as I am with the powder, it was big investment.
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #394 on: November 06, 2017, 11:21:34 PM »
I think some folks on here would be willing to send you stuff to powdercoat.

I'm more than willing to give anyone on the site a discount to help me through the end of the year. I'd like to push this new chrome system and get as proficient as I am with the powder, it was big investment.

Can you re-chrome exhaust headpipes ?
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #395 on: November 07, 2017, 07:36:21 AM »
I think some folks on here would be willing to send you stuff to powdercoat.

I'm more than willing to give anyone on the site a discount to help me through the end of the year. I'd like to push this new chrome system and get as proficient as I am with the powder, it was big investment.
Can you re-chrome exhaust headpipes ?

Interesting that you ask that. While I was in Fla. I think one of my cats or other animal sat on my Triumph seat and piddled on the left side muffler. Being they are EMGO's and obviously have cheap taiwanese chrome, everywhere there was a drop of piss it left a rust spot. So the only chrome left on the bike now has to be replaced, rechromed or ceramic coated. Or do they? Well just how hot do these pipes get? My powder will withstand spikes of 500° after full cure and in use. I'm not quite sure how much heat the new spray chrome process will take, so there's a chance I can spray chrome them. If this is the case then the pipes can be coated any color or chromed in any color tint also. So I ordered some temp tape strips and called my buddy Charlie Perethian, the 2012 Vetter Challenge winner, to test the exhaust temps on his Kawasaki W780, the closest I can get to a Triumph. I'm still waiting on more results, but so far we have determined after a brisk 65mph, 8 mile ride, the head pipe at the bend showed it reached 390°,but not 400°. A satisfactory result. So I will now find a test subject to coat and run an actual test of the product in real world operation. I know Harleys at the head pipe can exceed 700°, so no go on them. I can send some one a test strip to put on a CB750 to see what temps they run at.
There's another option of having the inside of the pipe ceramic coated to keep the heat down and then spray chroming them.. It would add a bit to the overall price but price and turnaround time might still  be cheaper than having them replated.
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #396 on: November 07, 2017, 01:47:23 PM »
I appreciate hearing you would consider doing a set of headpipes Powderman;I wouldn't mind getting them powdercoated,might hold-up longer than chrome if it will take the heat..
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #397 on: November 07, 2017, 01:51:44 PM »
Another option that may be available is to ceramic coat the inside (ceramic coating can not have anything applied over it) of the pipe and then powder coating the outside, leaving the color options for the pipes unlimited.

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« Reply #398 on: November 07, 2017, 02:01:11 PM »
Another option that may be available is to ceramic coat the inside (ceramic coating can not have anything applied over it) of the pipe and then powder coating the outside, leaving the color options for the pipes unlimited.

That sounds like the right way to go.I just purchased a Suzuki from a friend out of state and will pick it up next year so I will need help with those headpipes when I pick it up.
I know many would not recommend this but I would like to have the spokes PC'd(done it before by using a piece of aluminum flat stock and hiding the threads of each spoke in it during the PC process)also;have you ever done any ?
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Re: 1970 Triumph Tiger 650
« Reply #399 on: November 07, 2017, 02:07:03 PM »
Another option that may be available is to ceramic coat the inside (ceramic coating can not have anything applied over it) of the pipe and then powder coating the outside, leaving the color options for the pipes unlimited.

That sounds like the right way to go.I just purchased a Suzuki from a friend out of state and will pick it up next year so I will need help with those headpipes when I pick it up.
I know many would not recommend this but I would like to have the spokes PC'd(done it before by using a piece of aluminum flat stock and hiding the threads of each spoke in it during the PC process)also;have you ever done any ?
I don't know why anyone would not recommend coating spokes. I can not think of one reason that would negatively impact the spoke or it's use. I have done literally thousands of spokes for motorcycles and for a bicycle wheel builder.
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