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« Reply #225 on: April 12, 2016, 06:58:13 AM »
Thanks guys. Yeah, sanding is the only option other than a 2 into 1 system.

Rear fender painted up nice, powder coated turn signal brackets, license plate holder and the sanded turn signals. Rear is finished, lock hardware next.



Bike is on center stand, progress!
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« Reply #226 on: April 12, 2016, 07:05:43 AM »
GS forum member just picked this sweetheart up. $400 with title.
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« Reply #227 on: April 12, 2016, 08:54:05 AM »
I'm curious. Sandblasting will not adequately prep a chrome surface for paint as opposed to sanding?
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Re: -Project Suzzie-
« Reply #228 on: April 12, 2016, 09:35:39 AM »
The local PC shop aggressively sandblasted a number of different vintage Honda chrome parts for me(the chrome was applied very sparingly from the factory)and then PC's them;I think he said it took off most of the chrome and was sufficient.
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« Reply #229 on: April 12, 2016, 02:10:59 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on April 12, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
I'm curious. Sandblasting will not adequately prep a chrome surface for paint as opposed to sanding?

Of course it will but tt was told that the metal is so thin in the rusted area that blasting it would "blow through".
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« Reply #230 on: April 12, 2016, 02:12:32 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on April 12, 2016, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on April 12, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
I'm curious. Sandblasting will not adequately prep a chrome surface for paint as opposed to sanding?

Of course it will but tt was told that the metal is so thin in the rusted area that blasting it would "blow through".

Ahh. Makes sense.
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Re: -Project Suzzie-
« Reply #231 on: April 12, 2016, 02:32:40 PM »
I just checked on ceramic coating and was told it would not work because of rust. Even after blasting and coating it would show in the finish. Yes, couple of areas have surface rust just about through the muffler.

At this time I think it's best to just paint and make them look good as I can. A bolt and go versus a 2 into 1 with endless jetting and what not. Still on the fence although a little time and paint might go a long way.

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« Reply #232 on: April 12, 2016, 03:07:37 PM »
Any pics of the affected area/s ?
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« Reply #233 on: April 12, 2016, 03:13:36 PM »
Quote from: grcamna2 on April 12, 2016, 03:07:37 PM
Any pics of the affected area/s ?

In due time I'll dig one side out and we can go from there. I'll pick the worst side. Few other things ahead of it.  ;)
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Re: -Project Suzzie-
« Reply #234 on: April 12, 2016, 05:03:18 PM »
Quote from: toytuff on April 12, 2016, 03:13:36 PM
Quote from: grcamna2 on April 12, 2016, 03:07:37 PM
Any pics of the affected area/s ?

In due time I'll dig one side out and we can go from there. I'll pick the worst side. Few other things ahead of it.  ;)

I'm not sure if you would want to know this(cosmetically speaking..)but have you considered patching the area before having it coated ?
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Re: -Project Suzzie-
« Reply #235 on: April 12, 2016, 05:26:49 PM »
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« Reply #236 on: April 12, 2016, 05:47:12 PM »
Well Terry, that's the question I can't get an answer to. The 450 naturally had a bigger cylinder head then the 400 or even the 425 cc models. I do know the inlet diameter at the head is the same.

What I don't know is the bend out of the head and if the angle of the bend would change the mounting location at the muffler brackets in the rear. Everything else looks correct so it becomes a roll the dice decision.

Thank you for those links. I get daily updates but didn't get those. In my watch list now.
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« Reply #237 on: April 12, 2016, 05:57:04 PM »
I'm curious. Sandblasting will not adequately prep a chrome surface for paint as opposed to sanding?
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Just the opposite from my experience.  Sand blasting chrome is way better then trying to sand it.  Chrome is really a hard surface and it takes forever to sand, but blasting gets it ready in no time.  I've painted lots of chrome parts and the paint stuck very well after blasting it to the point it has absolutely no shine to it what-so-ever...without a ton of sand scratches, too, I might add.

As far as this Suzuki's pipes, hell, I repaired a couple of rust holes in the bottom of the collector of my 400F last year with JB weld.  The header pipes were so supremely beautiful, I hated the thought of throwing it away and tried the quick fix, and it's actually held up great.  I would try it on these mufflers, too.  It sands easily, and holds paint really well.  Nothing but the cost of a tube of JB Weld to find out. 
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« Reply #238 on: April 12, 2016, 07:00:48 PM »
Quote from: nvr2old on April 12, 2016, 05:57:04 PM
I'm curious. Sandblasting will not adequately prep a chrome surface for paint as opposed to sanding?

Just the opposite from my experience.  Sand blasting chrome is way better then trying to sand it.  Chrome is really a hard surface and it takes forever to sand, but blasting gets it ready in no time.  I've painted lots of chrome parts and the paint stuck very well after blasting it to the point it has absolutely no shine to it what-so-ever...without a ton of sand scratches, too, I might add.

As far as this Suzuki's pipes, hell, I repaired a couple of rust holes in the bottom of the collector of my 400F last year with JB weld.  The header pipes were so supremely beautiful, I hated the thought of throwing it away and tried the quick fix, and it's actually held up great.  I would try it on these mufflers, too.  It sands easily, and holds paint really well.  Nothing but the cost of a tube of JB Weld to find out.
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I have used JBWeld on mufflers w/ good results also,it is recommended to 550 degrees F. so it works on parts that will be PC'd also.
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« Reply #239 on: April 13, 2016, 01:16:26 AM »
Quote from: toytuff on April 12, 2016, 05:47:12 PM
Well Terry, that's the question I can't get an answer to. The 450 naturally had a bigger cylinder head then the 400 or even the 425 cc models. I do know the inlet diameter at the head is the same.

What I don't know is the bend out of the head and if the angle of the bend would change the mounting location at the muffler brackets in the rear. Everything else looks correct so it becomes a roll the dice decision.

Thank you for those links. I get daily updates but didn't get those. In my watch list now.

Mick will do, Terry lives 2000 miles south of me... ;D

Yes, I was looking at the mufflers, not the header pipes, they certainly look close... ;)
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« Reply #240 on: April 13, 2016, 01:19:21 PM »
I beg your pardon Sir. Senior moment. Again.

I contacted the seller and they are Sankei 2056, mine are Sankei 2119. Looks the same huh?
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« Reply #241 on: April 13, 2016, 01:24:48 PM »
Installed new battery along with new end cover and strap. Ran a trickle charger lead.



Cleaned up the seat strap hardware along with another coat of cleaner. Fitted the front bracket.



And a progress shot.



Hoping to get the front MC rebuilt this weekend so I can finish up the right handlebar.

Onward...
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« Reply #242 on: April 13, 2016, 02:59:55 PM »
Love the bike and you do beautiful work.  Those mirrors look ridiculous in my opinion...like you care, right? :D
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« Reply #243 on: April 13, 2016, 03:02:43 PM »
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Those mirrors look ridiculous in my opinion...
So much for "If it works [sic] good, it looks good"...
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« Reply #244 on: April 13, 2016, 03:11:41 PM »
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« Reply #245 on: April 13, 2016, 04:18:06 PM »
It's all good guys, no worries.

Nothing in stone on the mirrors. Subject to change at any given moment.  ;)

Thank you for the compliment on the rest.  ;D
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« Reply #246 on: April 13, 2016, 04:26:45 PM »
I can't feel the love on these. They are Esprint brand.
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« Reply #247 on: April 13, 2016, 08:05:53 PM »
Quote from: toytuff on April 13, 2016, 04:26:45 PM
I can't feel the love on these. They are Esprint brand.

I don't like squarish mirrors either, it just screams 80's. 
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« Reply #248 on: April 13, 2016, 08:18:38 PM »
Napoleon mirrors are an excellent coated optics mirror, not quiet square, but close enough and they will not look out of place.
I like them and they are large enough to see things and see them clearly.
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« Reply #249 on: April 13, 2016, 09:23:36 PM »
Nothing wrong with the stock mirrors also.
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