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The threat to your privacy
« on: February 17, 2016, 01:12:18 PM »
From: The Sovereign Invester Daily, 2/17/2016
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Privacy For Sale: No Warrant Needed
By Ted Bauman, Offshore and Asset Protection Editor
 
I live in a little micro-municipality of 4.2 square-miles wedged between Atlanta, DeKalb County and several other tiny “cities.” The Atlanta metropolitan area is chock-full of these odd little independent municipalities, each with its own public services — schools, fire departments and so on. Just crossing the street you switch police departments. It’s a vestige of the 1960s, when desegregation prompted white Atlantans to separate from the big city.

My town has a decent per-capita income and taxes to match, so our public services are first-rate. But, even in the lesser towns around us, money never seems to come between the police department and the latest surveillance toys.

So I wasn’t surprised about 18 months ago when I noticed that our police cars now sported license-plate cameras — front and back. Wherever the cops go, they’re taking pictures of cars and running their plates automatically.

A Public-Private Partnership
Our police department bought automated license plate reader (ALPR) equipment. But, all across the U.S., police departments are obtaining ALPR technology for free.

It works like this. Companies like Vigilant Solutions give local police departments no-cost license plate readers and free access to LEARN-NVLS, a national ALPR data system. In turn, the police give Vigilant access to information about all outstanding tickets and court fees. The company then turns this data into a hot-list, which it feeds into LEARN-NVLS, making it accessible to police departments across the country. As police cars patrol, they search for license plates associated with outstanding fines and fees. Vigilant gets a 25% “processing fee,” paid by the driver, for every fine recovered in this way. To facilitate the cash flow, Vigilant has even provided cops in Texas with credit card readers so they can recover fines on the spot.

But that’s not the only way Vigilant and similar companies profit by burrowing into government. License plate information collected by APLR systems is fed into LEARN-NVLS, which now contains more than 2.8 billion plate scans — and it’s growing by more than 70 million scans a month. This massive database is hugely valuable to Vigilant, which can use the data as it sees fit, unconstrained by any law.

To preserve the value of this unique database, Vigilant’s contracts with police departments stipulate that the data collected by ALPR belong to the company, not the government. Local governments are forbidden from sharing the data — or even from talking about ALPR and Vigilant in public.

Logical Consequences
The results of this cozy arrangement are predictable. Police no longer focus on responding to calls and traffic violations. They focus on what their computer tells them about the status of drivers around them. They have to do this, because if they don’t generate revenue, they stand to lose the free APLR system. Besides ignoring current traffic violations in favor of collecting on old ones, the system encourages police and local courts to maximize the number of warrants that could trigger an APLR alert, and thus maximize cash flow for themselves and for Vigilant.

There’s more. When the police want to track a vehicle with a GPS device, they have to get a warrant from a judge under the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unlawful searches. But, there’s nothing to stop police from mining LEARN-NVLS to find out everywhere a particular license plate has been photographed. They just have to pay Vigilant Solutions for access to the data. This comes in handy when police track a specific vehicle’s attendance at locations or events, such as political protests.

Of course, Vigilant has other ways of making money from our license plate information. They sell LEARN-NVLS data to financial institutions who use it to make decisions about loan origination, servicing and collections. Insurance providers use the data to mitigate risk and investigate insurance fraud.

One California state senator pointed out just one unintended consequence of the rapid, unsupervised spread of ALPR: “Should a cop who thinks you’re cute have access to your daily movements for the past 10 years without your knowledge or consent?”.

Profit and Policing: An Unholy Alliance
Understandably, the federal government just loves this system. During the past five years, the Department of Homeland Security has distributed more than $50 million in federal grants to law-enforcement agencies for ALPR systems. Consequently, with Uncle Sam and the private sector both keen to spread ALPR, the unregulated database of license plate information is growing rapidly.

Vigilant Solutions is a clever outfit … very entrepreneurial. But like private for-profit prisons, who lobby lawmakers for more crimes and thus more prisoners, its business model is designed to address a “market” that only exists because of government. And just like private prisons, private-sector surveillance technology has the potential to shape how government decisions are made. If there’s money to be made, our freedoms go out the window.

But the free market may have the last laugh. In researching this article, I discovered several outfits that are working on technologies that would render license plates impervious to remote scanning.

Time will tell whether our government will intervene to stop thatparticular bit of innovation. After all, there’s no money in it for them…

Kind regards,

Ted Bauman
Offshore and Asset Protection Editor

P.S.If the thought of unchecked expansion in government and private-sector surveillance scares the bejeezus out of you — and why wouldn’t it — you don’t need to wait on emerging technologies to protect your privacy. In fact, the time to start taking steps to secure your privacy is now. Click here to get a copy of my special privacy report, Privacy Code 2.0.

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Re: The threat to your privacy
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 02:24:47 PM »
Where do I get my plate obscurer?  :)
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2016, 08:37:40 PM »
That article has quite a bit of mis information from a lack of how these things operate and how police and courts function in general.


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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 11:15:43 PM »
That article has quite a bit of mis information from a lack of how these things operate and how police and courts function in general.


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You're a cop, you would say that.  Please point out all the "misinformation" and explain to us all why this massive breach of privacy is good for anyone. NONE of the fear mongering sh1t coming out of any politician, government body, police force or the  NSA, FBI, CIA or where ever it comes from, means a fcuking thing to me, I will never live in fear of anything or anyone, I'm not that gullible/stupid/ignorant, and NO amount of personal invasion of privacy will stop someone hell bent on killing people, its that simple.... This is all about controlling everyone and NOTHING to do with safety, next step, a cashless society, its already started, lets see how you like it when the government and the banks have total control of your money.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 11:24:43 PM »
Retro, you have the nanny state confused.  The nanny is all about protecting you from yourself and your inevitable bad decisions.

Surveillance is all about control.  Trust me, I live in what many would call a nanny state. 

While I will fight to the death those that would invade my privacy and my freedoms, the problem I see with the original article is this - "Click here to get a copy of my special privacy report, Privacy Code 2.0."

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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 12:04:14 AM »
Retro, you have the nanny state confused.  The nanny is all about protecting you from yourself and your inevitable bad decisions.

Surveillance is all about control.  Trust me, I live in what many would call a nanny state. 

While I will fight to the death those that would invade my privacy and my freedoms, the problem I see with the original article is this - "Click here to get a copy of my special privacy report, Privacy Code 2.0."

Dude's selling something.

Yes, I removed the nanny state quote, I live in one as well. The privacy invasion is indeed about control... ;)
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2016, 02:35:39 AM »
Really this technology has been out for years.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2016, 03:12:11 AM »
Really this technology has been out for years.

Yep, we've had number plate recognition tech here in Oz for years, and I love watching scumbags getting pulled over for driving around in unregistered, unroadworthy, uninsured sh1tboxes, and being made to walk home. If I have to pay my way, so should everyone else. ;D
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 05:53:35 AM »
Time to re-read George Orwell's "1984"...

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« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 06:04:51 AM »
...lets see how you like it when the government and the banks have total control of your money.
Too late, Mick, been that way for a very long time. The realization of it is just now setting in to enough people.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 06:10:09 AM »
Where do I get my plate obscurer?  :)

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2016, 07:00:27 AM »
Where do I get my plate obscurer?  :)

Ask and receive.

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Hint: It is the Silver Pearl that is mixed with clear and applied to license plates to defeat photo radar systems. 1 bag could treat literally hundreds of license plates. Other companies sell it pre-mixed with clear in spray cans for up to $30 a can!

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« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2016, 10:40:11 AM »
Since whatever comes out of my mouth is fear mongering, why ask for me to point out what is wrong with the article?


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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2016, 10:53:34 AM »
Where do I get my plate obscurer?  :)

Ask and receive.

https://retro.paintwithpearl.com/pearlstore.htm
Hint: It is the Silver Pearl that is mixed with clear and applied to license plates to defeat photo radar systems. 1 bag could treat literally hundreds of license plates. Other companies sell it pre-mixed with clear in spray cans for up to $30 a can!

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Re: The threat to your privacy
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2016, 12:50:31 PM »
Really this technology has been out for years.

Yep, we've had number plate recognition tech here in Oz for years, and I love watching scumbags getting pulled over for driving around in unregistered, unroadworthy, uninsured sh1tboxes, and being made to walk home. If I have to pay my way, so should everyone else. ;D

Too right Mate. The real issue here is what is done with the data after your plate is run. It was expected that if your car was registered and all was well, the info was tossed.  That would be no harm done. A Lawyer sued to get the records. He found out his plate was captured 1200 times with a date, location, and a time stamp on each capture. That is the real issue.
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« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2016, 01:32:30 PM »
A Lawyer sued to get the records. He found out his plate was captured 1200 times with a date, location, and a time stamp on each capture. That is the real issue.

I've had this conversation any number of times, whether about LPR's, cameras in public places and facial recognition programs, tracking your movements through your cell phone, little black boxes on our cars, and on and on. And usually someone will come up with "if you are not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?"  I will then point out that over the long history of totalitarianism, not long after somebody in the government says that, people start dying.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2016, 01:52:21 PM »
Really this technology has been out for years.

Yep, we've had number plate recognition tech here in Oz for years, and I love watching scumbags getting pulled over for driving around in unregistered, unroadworthy, uninsured sh1tboxes, and being made to walk home. If I have to pay my way, so should everyone else. ;D

Too right Mate. The real issue here is what is done with the data after your plate is run. It was expected that if your car was registered and all was well, the info was tossed.  That would be no harm done. A Lawyer sued to get the records. He found out his plate was captured 1200 times with a date, location, and a time stamp on each capture. That is the real issue.

Yeah, I understand that some folks have a real paranoia of "big brother" gathering data on their private lives Bobby, but I just don't care. I'm 56 next year, I reckon I've got another 20 years or so left in me, and if all the terrible things that folks are so scared about the government doing to them hasn't been done by now, I'm not going to waste any time worrying about what might happen in my remaining "Golden Years".

Oh, and Chewy, don't get too excited about that special paint that supposedly makes your number plates invisible to radar camera's, Mythbusters busted it years ago, it just doesn't work. Snake Oil for the modern era, methinks. Buy a quality radar detector instead................ ;D

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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2016, 01:59:26 PM »
A Lawyer sued to get the records. He found out his plate was captured 1200 times with a date, location, and a time stamp on each capture. That is the real issue.

I've had this conversation any number of times, whether about LPR's, cameras in public places and facial recognition programs, tracking your movements through your cell phone, little black boxes on our cars, and on and on. And usually someone will come up with "if you are not doing anything wrong, what are you worried about?"  I will then point out that over the long history of totalitarianism, not long after somebody in the government says that, people start dying.

Greg, there are none so blind as those who will not see! Even the most cursory study of the history of the last stages of a collapsing empire will show just what we are seeing around us now. Your observations are right on the mark.
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2016, 02:10:42 PM »
Ha ha, paranoids of the world unite! All this big brother stuff reminds me of one of my favorite Doctor Hook songs. ;D

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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2016, 02:58:37 PM »
Gotta love complacency.  Some people luck out and get away with it, but many don't.  At any rate this isn't a bad summation of the issue -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_to_hide_argument
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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2016, 03:05:02 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2016, 01:54:51 AM »
Ha ha, yeah mate, you're right, what was I thinking? Everybody IS out to get you! ;D

I was feeling sorry for myself because I couldn't afford new bike boots, until I met a man with no legs.

So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2016, 06:54:03 AM »
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2016, 10:38:20 AM »
I wonder where Jerry parks his motorcycles on that beach?
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2016, 11:27:38 AM »
Really this technology has been out for years.

Yep, we've had number plate recognition tech here in Oz for years, and I love watching scumbags getting pulled over for driving around in unregistered, unroadworthy, uninsured sh1tboxes, and being made to walk home. If I have to pay my way, so should everyone else. ;D

Too right Mate. The real issue here is what is done with the data after your plate is run. It was expected that if your car was registered and all was well, the info was tossed.  That would be no harm done. A Lawyer sued to get the records. He found out his plate was captured 1200 times with a date, location, and a time stamp on each capture. That is the real issue.

Yeah, I understand that some folks have a real paranoia of "big brother" gathering data on their private lives Bobby, but I just don't care. I'm 56 next year, I reckon I've got another 20 years or so left in me, and if all the terrible things that folks are so scared about the government doing to them hasn't been done by now, I'm not going to waste any time worrying about what might happen in my remaining "Golden Years".

Oh, and Chewy, don't get too excited about that special paint that supposedly makes your number plates invisible to radar camera's, Mythbusters busted it years ago, it just doesn't work. Snake Oil for the modern era, methinks. Buy a quality radar detector instead................ ;D

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