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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #75 on: March 22, 2016, 04:36:18 PM »
Cool photo, Mick. I wonder what they sold for back in the day.
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #76 on: March 22, 2016, 05:25:35 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on March 22, 2016, 04:36:18 PM
Cool photo, Mick. I wonder what they sold for back in the day.

I had the prices somewhere, but they were in Dutch I think..
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #77 on: March 22, 2016, 06:29:11 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on March 22, 2016, 04:36:18 PM
Cool photo, Mick. I wonder what they sold for back in the day.

The kit cost around $1000

and an original complete bike sold last year at Bonhams for $86,000
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #78 on: March 22, 2016, 06:33:15 PM »
I got a deal on the Bimota anniversary book and bought it. $200
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #79 on: March 22, 2016, 07:51:31 PM »
Quote from: Artracing on March 22, 2016, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on March 22, 2016, 04:36:18 PM
Cool photo, Mick. I wonder what they sold for back in the day.

The kit cost around $1000

and an original complete bike sold last year at Bonhams for $86,000

$1000 for a kit back in the day was no joke. 
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #80 on: March 22, 2016, 11:03:16 PM »
  I bet they were more ..........a Rickman I think was about 1/2 or 2/3 of CB750 price.......You got to buck up to go exotic...
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2016, 05:06:29 AM »
Quote from: 754 on March 22, 2016, 11:03:16 PM
.......You got to buck up to go exotic...
As it should be...
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #82 on: March 26, 2016, 08:33:50 PM »
Quote from: Artracing on March 22, 2016, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on March 22, 2016, 04:36:18 PM
Cool photo, Mick. I wonder what they sold for back in the day.

The kit cost around $1000

and an original complete bike sold last year at Bonhams for $86,000

Nice work, but where in the range does a replica lie?
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #83 on: March 27, 2016, 06:01:00 AM »
Quote from: FunJimmy on March 26, 2016, 08:33:50 PM
Quote from: Artracing on March 22, 2016, 06:29:11 PM
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on March 22, 2016, 04:36:18 PM
Cool photo, Mick. I wonder what they sold for back in the day.

The kit cost around $1000

and an original complete bike sold last year at Bonhams for $86,000


Nice work, but where in the range does a replica lie?

In my case, I would say I'm duplicating 90% of it and most importantly the frame and swing arm. Some of it, making it my own.

I used the word clone here, because someone was selling those horrible replica kits for CB550. They  were only the fiberglass tank and seat and maybe swing arm. They reminded me of those Ford GT fiberglass bodies they sold to put on a VW and then called the cars FORD GT replica.
Couldn't be farther from the truth.
 
I didn't want to be linked with the CB550 kits

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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #84 on: March 27, 2016, 06:03:55 AM »
I can't wait to see the frame, post pics of the build process too.... ;)
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #85 on: March 27, 2016, 06:19:10 AM »
Hijack:
I have a Bimota KB-3 and I bought the book new in 2000. I'm astounded at how the book has appreciated in value. Speaking purely financially it's a better investment than the bike (although the bike's value has also increased substantially).

Problem is you can't use the book to go for a ride, and it isn't very good as a chick-magnet either...

And I've subscribed to this thread - it's going to get exciting here I'm sure!
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #86 on: March 27, 2016, 06:30:15 AM »
Quote from: 01Thomas on March 27, 2016, 06:19:10 AM
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I have a Bimota KB-3...

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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #87 on: March 27, 2016, 06:41:50 AM »
Quote from: 01Thomas on March 27, 2016, 06:19:10 AM
Hijack:
I have a Bimota KB-3 and I bought the book new in 2000. I'm astounded at how the book has appreciated in value. Speaking purely financially it's a better investment than the bike (although the bike's value has also increased substantially).

Problem is you can't use the book to go for a ride, and it isn't very good as a chick-magnet either...

And I've subscribed to this thread - it's going to get exciting here I'm sure!

Your right about the book. Small fortune. I ended up getting one on a deal. Its cool book. Well done.

What knowledge do you have on Bimota red paint? I was going to have the  computer sample the photos in  the book and average it out.

Still researching it.

I will be posting photos as I go. 

Frame build will be over several next week.

I'll be making the rear set mounts this week.

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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #88 on: March 27, 2016, 08:01:40 AM »
What process are you using to create your frame? Do you have some sort of jig?
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #89 on: March 28, 2016, 10:11:37 AM »
good luck with the project. suggest you have a look at mec's egli honda build, to my knowledge the only from the ground race frame replica that's also track proven here in the forum.

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,54803.msg589477.html

and dont forget to document / update here as well as he did :)
 
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Bimota HB1 Clone motor build
« Reply #90 on: March 31, 2016, 09:37:28 AM »
Edited posting:
Motor - in progress pix
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone motor build
« Reply #91 on: March 31, 2016, 04:43:31 PM »
Quote from: jimc on March 31, 2016, 09:37:28 AM
Fluff posting:
I'll post some motor - in progress pix for this once the site allows me......

2 more posts... ;)
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #92 on: March 31, 2016, 05:01:32 PM »
Frame started this week. No photos yet. Did finish machining new rear caliper hanger for P108 Brembo.
I start the funky swing arm frame socket pieces tomorrow and the rear set mounts.




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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #93 on: March 31, 2016, 05:12:01 PM »
Very nice, can't wait to see the frame... ;)
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #94 on: March 31, 2016, 06:02:54 PM »
Quote from: Artracing on March 31, 2016, 05:01:32 PM
Frame started this week. No photos yet. Did finish machining new rear caliper hanger for P108 Brembo.
I start the funky swing arm frame socket pieces tomorrow and the rear set mounts.

Just curious on why you choose the Brembo units over something more exotic like AP or Fontana?
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #95 on: March 31, 2016, 07:56:30 PM »
Quote from: slikwilli420 on March 31, 2016, 06:02:54 PM
Quote from: Artracing on March 31, 2016, 05:01:32 PM
Frame started this week. No photos yet. Did finish machining new rear caliper hanger for P108 Brembo.
I start the funky swing arm frame socket pieces tomorrow and the rear set mounts.

Just curious on why you choose the Brembo units over something more exotic like AP or Fontana?
More of a classic look and Italian.
I would have loved to use Fontana, but that's about $3000 hit. Not in the budget. :-(


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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2016, 09:38:20 AM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on March 31, 2016, 05:12:01 PM
Very nice, can't wait to see the frame... ;)

Thanks for the link in the Brembo thread about the Airtech oil tank inner fender. I saw that and am considering it. Let say it is on the table.


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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #97 on: April 02, 2016, 10:24:54 AM »
Made a few iconic swing arm frame mounts.  No fun machining 4130. These are the pieces built into the frame as sort of a socket for swing arm to fit into. The swing arm uses two bolts instead of one long axle. The bolt is custom, like a shoulder bolt with disc on the end with holes to match the frame mount. The  cluster of holes in the frame mounts are threaded. The bolt disc fits into the socket and then screwed in. You then attach the nut on the inside to secure the swing arm
It is quite the elaborate design. I have no idea why it was done this way.
Much better way to do it, but this build is all about cloning.
 
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #98 on: April 02, 2016, 10:52:37 AM »
What does the swingarm pivot use for bearings?
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Re: Bimota HB1 Clone build
« Reply #99 on: April 02, 2016, 12:49:46 PM »
Quote from: Artracing on April 02, 2016, 10:24:54 AM
Made a few iconic swing arm frame mounts.  No fun machining 4130. These are the pieces built into the frame as sort of a socket for swing arm to fit into. The swing arm uses two bolts instead of one long axle. The bolt is custom, like a shoulder bolt with disc on the end with holes to match the frame mount. The  cluster of holes in the frame mounts are threaded. The bolt disc fits into the socket and then screwed in. You then attach the nut on the inside to secure the swing arm
It is quite the elaborate design. I have no idea why it was done this way.
Much better way to do it, but this build is all about cloning.

I guess that commits you to building the correct oil tank, Eh!
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