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Offline socal1200r

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Re: Grumblings about modern technology
« Reply #50 on: February 24, 2016, 06:31:14 PM »
Military has taught me about the dangers of a "single point of failure", which will happen with these so-called "smart phones", that people use for music, GPS, social media, etc.  If I need a GPS, that's what my Garmin is for.  Music, got an iPod for that.  Internet stuff, my laptop.  That's why I've resisted the temptation to get a smart phone, and have been quite happy with my old-school 3G flip phone. 

With that being said, there are some advantages to newer bikes, but one has to factor in the much more complicated nature of them as well.  If I want to ride one of my bikes to work, it won't be my '79 CB650.  I'd rather ride the 2014 Bolt, just turn the key, let the system do its thing, hit the start button, put my riding gear on, and off I go.  With the CB, I'd still be waiting around for at least 5 minutes, or until I can put the choke down at least half way, before it's ready to go.  But should the "system" go wonky on the Bolt, I'm in trouble, but luckily it'll throw codes to point me or the dealer in the right direction.

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Re: Grumblings about modern technology
« Reply #51 on: February 24, 2016, 09:05:07 PM »
DH - there's a significant difference between an S class and a C class. As for the ball joints, mine doesn't have the conventional type but instead they're pressed into the upper and lower arms. These do wear as other brands though. But possibly the air suspension provided a bit of relief.

As for doing something right, I've run Amsoil since 10k and change it religiously every 25k miles. Yes, 25k. Leakdown tests run annually show me at 8psi and compression within 3psi of all 8. If that's not testimony for that oil, I don't know what is.

It is my experience that those who besmirch cars they've never owned are merely confusion their opinions with the malodorous noise resulting from a plate of refried beans. Because both are emanating from the same place.


Sorry Cal, didn't mean to single out your car in a negative way. Just commenting on things I've seen, with plenty of modern technology failures, the mercs were included. Those being more mainstream in recent years and they're a high end car.. They're ALL getting harder and more complicated to fix. The technology is evolving faster than the repair industry, and it getting prohibitively expensive to keep up. That expense gets passed down to the customer who owns the vehicle with one defective HID headlight that he can't afford to replace.
Either make it to last or don't force it on the consumer. Especially when conventional components and systems are sufficient. jmho

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Re: Grumblings about modern technology
« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2016, 12:08:22 AM »
I love my old vehicles just because they break less often and are easy to fix when they do


Same here! Plus they look cool too!  ;) 8)
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Offline Terry in Australia

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Re: Grumblings about modern technology
« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2016, 01:46:48 AM »

Your sweeping generalization is off-kilter and disproved, Terry. ;D

Ha ha, if you said it Cal, I MUST be disproved, yeah? Only problem with that is you're talking about your experience with ONE Mercedes, while I'm talking about my experience with MANY. Yeah mate, when I was a soldier I worked a second job to support my family working at a full service garage, and I saw MANY Mercedes' that had failed prematurely.

Usually it was electrical issues that warranted enormously expensive replacement parts, (ignition/fuel injection parts were horribly expensive and nearly impossible to obtain from the Australian distributors, before the internet fixed most of those issues) but just as regularly, mechanical failure was a huge issue too.

The guy who started re-inking computer cartridges in Melbourne made a fortune. Before he made a lot of money though, he bought a new 1980's Mercedes 230E. By the early 1990's, it was blowing a cloud of smoke everywhere it went, so he brought it in and asked my boss to do a full rebuild. Back then a replacement reconditioned engine for an Australian built car was around the $2K mark, but due to the ridiculous cost of Mercedes parts, the quote for a full reco was $8K!

My boss was sure that the owner would tell us to forget it, but no, he's made a fortune re-inking cartridges, and he happily paid the $8K. Sadly a few months later it had some sort of electrical fire after he washed it with a high pressure hose, and burned to the ground in the owners driveway. Oh well........

But the thing that reminded me of this story was your claim that somehow the savings that you've made by driving your 16 year old Merc has put your son thru college. You see, my boss was one of the few mechanics in the area who would touch crappy European cars like Mercs, BMW's, Volvo's, Saab's, Audi's etc, and he told me that the reason that he'd decided to become the patron saint of Euro trash cars, was because they'd put both of his kids through private school, and paid for another house when his wife divorced him.

Oh, and your economy figures are a little "Light on" mate, you might have forgotten to add the 50,000-odd gallons of gas you've put through it, not to mention all of the other items that are a true reflection of actual running costs. In reality, the $80 that someone forked out for that thing when it was new was only a deposit............. ;D
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