ve used chainasavs a lot icefishing..in the 1980---...but never got this krazxy idea..saltvater ice is not nice..its rouf..and dirt..so better to run bikes on...used as dkw 125 back then..later got a dt 125(. less expensive).but klima thangses have end the ice fun...its 4-5 years since last big ice..and ferryes blocked