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Offline BomberMann650

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Slipper Clutches
« on: February 23, 2016, 03:07:04 PM »
Do slipper clutch conversions exist for 75 cb550f bikes?

Recent oil change revealed a need for a new clutch, if I can upgrade to a more modern clutch I'd like to.

Or are Ebc plate kits all thats left?

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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2016, 03:50:57 PM »
I don't think so.  Too old and other new clutches would have all the wrong sizes.  I can down shift with some revving of the engine to match road speed to the engine.  For me, it is fun, old school tech.
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2016, 04:10:14 PM »
That's what I suspected.

when replacing clutches, I need the cover gasket, the friction plates, steel plates, and springs right?
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2016, 04:25:18 PM »
I only replace the friction discs and the cover gasket (and only when the clutch is slipping). I reuse the metal plates as they don't wear out! -and I reuse the springs as I don't do drag racing starts and like my light clutch lever action.
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2016, 08:07:53 PM »
good to know
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2016, 08:08:50 PM »
Anyone using a hydraulic clutch lever on their cb's?
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2016, 04:20:36 AM »
OEM springs are available too and they're cheap, change the springs too. They're under tension all the time and yours may be 40 years old.
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2016, 10:59:31 AM »
Might as well since it's all coming apart.
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2016, 10:30:27 AM »
That's a good practice to change springs and discs.

Yes, there are no slippers commercially available for the CB's.  Just good old fashioned, rev-matching and clutch-feathering.  I am sure that Brent could give tutorials on his "best practices" as he must have a mastery of it with his vintage racing. 

I have not yet owned a modern bike with a slipper clutch, and gotten by on my best efforts and practice at the track, where it really matters.  Most of us, I suspect are not putting as much demand/doling out punishment on our drivetrains as racers.
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2016, 12:19:49 PM »
Stuff wears out but OEM parts, including cables, are available from Honda. Steel plates warp and glaze over time. There is no need for a hard to pull slipping clutch. Do yourself & your bike a favour.  ;D

I can't speak for everyone racing these bikes, but I modified the 77/78 clutch to accept an extra disc & plate, all OEM. That & stock springs offers smooth action and has never slipped even with double the original power.

I never liked Barnett systems, but I did buy a set of their springs in case and have never used them.
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2016, 02:12:39 PM »
Quote from: bwaller on February 26, 2016, 12:19:49 PM
Stuff wears out but OEM parts, including cables, are available from Honda. Steel plates warp and glaze over time. There is no need for a hard to pull slipping clutch. Do yourself & your bike a favour.  ;D

I can't speak for everyone racing these bikes, but I modified the 77/78 clutch to accept an extra disc & plate, all OEM. That & stock springs offers smooth action and has never slipped even with double the original power.

I never liked Barnett systems, but I did buy a set of their springs in case and have never used them.

How did you double your CB's hp?
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2016, 04:06:26 PM »
"How did you double your CB's hp?"

Cash injection!
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2016, 04:26:35 PM »
That's partly true Bodi.  ;D  Actually the 550 could be described as a workhorse. There really isn't anything secretive, most of the power is released in head work and improved breathing. That & good engine building processes.

BM650 I have a thread somewhere in the HiPo section
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2016, 04:27:34 PM »
Brent has been very open about his mods in his thread over in the HiPerf section of the forums .
MRiech or is it MReich has been the master at work on his top end to provide the needed mods to breathe and mix the fuel air and exhaust output to make the results possible. Brent has put together a consistent and winning combination in VRRA racing over the past many seasons.

David

Quote from: BomberMann650 on February 27, 2016, 02:12:39 PM
Quote from: bwaller on February 26, 2016, 12:19:49 PM
Stuff wears out but OEM parts, including cables, are available from Honda. Steel plates warp and glaze over time. There is no need for a hard to pull slipping clutch. Do yourself & your bike a favour.  ;D

I can't speak for everyone racing these bikes, but I modified the 77/78 clutch to accept an extra disc & plate, all OEM. That & stock springs offers smooth action and has never slipped even with double the original power.

I never liked Barnett systems, but I did buy a set of their springs in case and have never used them.

How did you double your CB's hp?
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Re: Slipper Clutches
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2016, 12:52:04 AM »
That is outstanding!
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