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Offline johans

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Throttle Push Cable Question
« on: June 19, 2019, 06:49:26 am »
76 750f    -    I saw on a post the other day riders that do not even bother with installing the push cable on the throttle . It makes sense to me as there appears to be a good amount of tension on the carb return spring . How many of you install the cables this way and is there any down side to it ?  Thanks in advance !
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Re: Throttle Push Cable Question
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2019, 07:19:16 am »
If your return spring ever breaks during a WFO run, you may experience a momentary panic attack until you hit the run stop switch. I like my return spring tension just enough for a stable repeatable idle. I like the return cable. I’ve had a run away CR500 before, no push cable. Had to throw them shorts away. 😂

I like as little throttle resistance as possible. Just enough to keep the old 76f from exaggerating my shivering while riding in cool weather.

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Re: Throttle Push Cable Question
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 07:21:38 am »
I've kept it installed. To me there is little downside with the benefit of added safety. If something happens to the return spring then my hand is already on the throttle and can correct. Plus I'm not stranded then. Without it you can kill the engine but your done riding for the day.

I can understand why people wouldn't though. Its a pain to hook both up all the time when carb tuning.
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Re: Throttle Push Cable Question
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 08:16:59 am »
Look at it this way, its a safety factor and insurance companies will find any non use of a safety item as an excuse not to pay out. Can you afford to pay for somebody elses injuries?
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Re: Throttle Push Cable Question
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 09:22:03 am »
It is not a push cable.  It a pull/pull system.  Pull on/ pull off.  Many airplanes use this system on primary control surfaces.

Some carbs have a return spring per carb. Most SOHC4s use one spring to close throttle.  If that happens to fail, you can still close the throttle so you don't have near views of the underside of a semi- truck, or an inside view of a parking lot wall.  I don't care how fast you think your reflexes are.  You still have to figure out why the machine is misbehaving and decide an alternative action course, before that oncoming obstacle gets personal.

Properly adjusted and cared for, the pull -off cable isn't an issue.

All my bikes retain and use it.

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Re: Throttle Push Cable Question
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2019, 12:00:17 pm »
If your experiencing less than desirable thottle cables operation or life, you may want to verify your Over Cross Stop adjustment.

 Regardless of how we refer to Honda thottle cables A&B, without referencing to which side of the throttle bell crank (rack) one is individually referring to, the actual end result (throttle slide's operation) may be the OP's reference.

I've noticed an improperly adjusted over cross stop can actually preload Cables A&B to the point the throttle action is somewhat impaired. I prefer a tighter crossover spec than Honda recommends. Perhaps Honda allows a more generous spec to cover their range of manufacturing tolerances of the throttle tubes and both cables.

Attached the over cross stop....
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Re: Throttle Push Cable Question
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2019, 03:58:50 pm »
Also, if your cables are draggy, look to the routing, sharp bends or kinks increase drag.  When routing, keep bends at a large bend radius.  Cables have the least drag in straight runs.

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