Author Topic: 1974 CB/CL450 TRACKER/CAFE/STRIPCLUB RACER BUILD - * UPDATED 9/11/14 * (Read 97378 times)

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #100 on:** February 13, 2007, 10:49:27 AM »

Bill,
Thats a good looking bike, but the next bike I build is def. gonna be a Triumph similar to this--->

But with a bigger front wheel

bill440cars · « **Reply #101 on:** February 13, 2007, 12:12:47 PM »

Hey, The only reason that went to the trouble to look that one up was because you had said
something about pipes like gun barrels or something like that. Well, anyway, whatever.

Later on, Bill

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #102 on:** February 13, 2007, 12:36:33 PM »

Quote from: bill440cars on February 13, 2007, 12:12:47 PM

Hey, The only reason that went to the trouble to look that one up was because you had said
something about pipes like gun barrels or something like that. Well, anyway, whatever.

It is appreciated Bill, as always

Quote from: Pwfyrcat1 on February 04, 2007, 11:20:10 AM

By moving the electrics under the seat, did you have to lenghten any of the wires for the components?

Must of missed your question , sorry for the delay...

A few wires needed to be lenghtened when the electronics were moved under the seat, but it wasn't
a big deal. Their was some sorta box that was attached to the seatpost that I moved, along with the "winker". I wanted the bike to be as clean as possibile, so I moved everything that I could out of sight.

I just cut the wires clean, added the necessary (same gauge) wire, soldered, electrical taped and then shrink wrapped for a tight connection. I am anal when it comes to wiring, as the last thing I want to strand me on the side of the road is something as simple as wiring. A pistion coming outta the block or something is ok, but not some loose wire

chung · « **Reply #103 on:** February 15, 2007, 10:34:02 PM »

Nice job so far dude. I have done a few bikes in the style that you are working on now. I'm attempting to attach a couple pix. they are on disc so I hope they will magically appear below this text

The white one is one of the first few that i "finished" and the 450 was piled into the back of a parked truck before completion. Someone on this site may have bought it. Plans were for it to do battle on the road courses in CA. I don't think I've heard from dude after I sold it, maybe he will post some pix of it with a trophy

chung · « **Reply #104 on:** February 15, 2007, 10:45:01 PM »

Crap, all the other Pix are too large to post here

If any one wants to see the 450s email your addy to me <chung970cc@yahoo.com> and I'll shoot you a couple pix. The tank was a 77 CB750 and held a full 5gal. people tend to not like the style but I don't care it holds the gasoline just fine

I was kinda proud of that bike

Tim. · « **Reply #105 on:** February 16, 2007, 04:12:42 AM »

Upload your pics to Photobucket and then paste the IMG link in your posts.

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #106 on:** February 16, 2007, 06:57:21 AM »

Quote from: tintin on February 16, 2007, 04:12:42 AM

Upload your pics to Photobucket and then paste the IMG link in your posts.

Yeah, what he said

http://www.photobucket.com

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #107 on:** February 20, 2007, 10:07:43 AM »

* CB/CL450 Project Update 2/20/07 *

The latest purchase for the CB450 project ---->

I finally found a set for a fair price. I am gonna use the headpipes along with the front heatshields, then build offa that FOR MY "Franken-Exhaust". Kinda like this -->

With the pipes going thru the space where the sidecovers used to be and exiting on the right side of the bike (should look/sound killer)..All that wrapped in black headerwrap with some kinda gun drilled chrome/copper tips.. So, if anyone wants the stock mufflers shoot me an email, because they are/will be up for sale.

The weather is breaking (finally) in Chicagoland and I will be back in the garage getting this scoot finished ! I need to finish up the linkage for the rearsets, put the new cables on, and pretty much re-do ALL of the wiring and get that sorted out. My goal is to get the bike as complete as I can before the exhaust shows up, because thats gonna be the biggest project on the bike. For that the bike is gonna take a trip (in the back of my truck) to my buddies chassis shop to get the exhaust welded up. While it's their I might have him move the rearsets forward alittle so I am not so stretched out, but we will see..

More updates to come !

Cowboy · « **Reply #108 on:** February 20, 2007, 05:57:55 PM »

Glad you found a set! Now I don't have to feel bad about being slow to take pictures of mine for you!

I've been wrestling in my mind about keeping them, so I can quit wrestling now.

Can't wait to see how you modify them!

It looks like that set comes apart easily. Mine are welded together, and they would have been a pain to cut apart.

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #109 on:** February 21, 2007, 10:12:06 AM »

Quote from: Cowboy on February 20, 2007, 05:57:55 PM

It looks like that set comes apart easily. Mine are welded together, and they would have been a pain to cut apart.

That's what a Sawzall is for, among other things

chrisf · « **Reply #110 on:** February 22, 2007, 05:25:46 AM »

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that the bike is gonna take a trip (in the back of my truck) to my buddies chassis shop to get the exhaust welded up.

What are you going to do to it? I have the same style exhaust, and after the summer, I think I might fab up a stainless 2-1 with a megaphone and reverse cone. I should be able to do it for less that $200.

I have stainless for mild wire right now. So I'm also considering stripping off the chrome on the stock pipes, then welding on a stainless 2-1 w/ megaphone. Then, go back and ceramic coat the whole--leaving the stainless megaphone exposed.

I bet the two end up costing the same...

--Chris

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #111 on:** February 22, 2007, 06:38:08 AM »

Not exactly sure how the final exhaust is gonna end up.
I am gonna use the CL pipes as a starting point, then add to them and try and come
up with something cool/unique/loud/etc.. The basic idea I have is to have the exhaust come off
the stock CL headpipes, go up and thru (somehow) the empty space where the sidecovers used to
be and exit on the right side of the bike. I have ideas in my head but I actually need to mock-up some pipes and see how it is all gonna workout. Just picture the exhaust on the bike below making a left tun and going thru that empty space (think it might look killer)

Something with tips simiar to how this exhaust exit's --->

Once all is done/welded I am gonna wrap the entire thing in headerwrap and finish it off with some
copper end caps I am having made by my chassis shop buddy....

chrisf · « **Reply #112 on:** February 22, 2007, 06:41:28 AM »

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and finish it off with some copper end caps I am having made.

That's an awsome idea. Are you going to have more than 2 made? I might be interested in a set.

--Chris

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #113 on:** February 22, 2007, 07:26:36 AM »

Quote from: chrisf on February 22, 2007, 06:41:28 AM

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and finish it off with some copper end caps I am having made.
That's an awsome idea. Are you going to have more than 2 made? I might be interested in a set.

We shall see how everything turns out in the long run.
My buddy (who owns the chassis shop) is super busy, so trying to get him to "help a brother out" is kinda like pulling teeth. If time allows I will prob. make up a few sets of end caps and sell them..

Once it gets alittle warmer out and I am gonna attack this project full bore, get some mock-up's of the exhast done, and see what looks good...

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #114 on:** February 27, 2007, 02:01:45 PM »

CBCL450 Update as of 2/27/07

-My CL/Scrambler pipes should be here anyday, and once they do showup I am gonna officially start working on the CB450 project again full force. I want to insure that the project is finished well before the actual riding season starts, as I do have another bike (my CB750) that needs some things addresed as well.

-Been thinking about my "FrankenExhaust" allot lately, and I am still trying to figure out (in my head) how the overall finished product is going to look/turn out. My issue is after the stock CL pipes, what do I do after that ? I know I want to have the pipes snake thru the open area (where the sidecovers used to be), but I am gonna have to keep them low and away from the carbs. Then once I get the exhaust out the right side how do I finish it off ? Do I do short and stubby tips that will exit thru my leg (when I am on the bike) ? Some kinda slash cut deals, copper tips , chrome tips ? Or do I do somewhat high tips like on the orange bike above ? I am seriously up at night thinking about these kinda things (driving me crazy). However it ends up it will be different from anything else on the road, and should make the bike just that much more different/unique/etc...

- Need to start looking into the rest of the things I need to get this bike done and onthe road, like Tires, grips, and other misc parts. I need to source out a cheap steering dampener for this ride, and I am sure as hell gonna need it with the bike being so low and running no fender (or brace). My 2'' black headerwrap showed up last weekend, so I need to start thinking of something other than hoseclamps to keep the wrap in place. I think I am onto something (i found in my parts dept. here at work), but we shall see. One thing nice about working at a 18 wheeler dealership is our parts dept. is a bike builders dream !

More pics to come as I start making progress again....(I HATE WINTER)

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #115 on:** March 09, 2007, 06:18:18 PM »

* CB/CL 450 UPDATE 3/9/07 *

Well the weather is finally getting warm and the bike has sat long enough in the cold garage.
My deadline to get the bike done and riding is Saturday April 28th, which is the Chicago Ton-Up's first event of the season.

I FINALLY got my CL pipes today in the mail, which worked out well becasue I sold my stock pipes and actually shipped them out this
morning

The pipes are gonna work perfectly for what I have in mind (CL Mufflers for sale people - if anyone wants/needs them)
Note: They are just set in place for the pics below --->

I can see how I am gonna route the exhaust thru the hole (where the sidecovers used to be), and then exit on the right side of the bike much better now with the headpipes in place. The bike should be going to my buddies chassis shop next week to have the exhaust done, as well as the rearsets adjusted and completed..Once that is done the bike will come back home to get wired, new tires, get the front brake back on and working, and all the other small things sorted out..

More to come, I got allot of work to do !

gerhed · « **Reply #116 on:** March 10, 2007, 03:58:57 AM »

Teal,

Who made the gold #27 bike you pictured?--Is that a Chica? That fellow is on my wavelength.

Slapguts · « **Reply #117 on:** March 10, 2007, 07:43:13 AM »

Quote from: gerhed on March 10, 2007, 03:58:57 AM

Teal,

Who made the gold #27 bike you pictured?--Is that a Chica? That fellow is on my wavelength.

Rooke. http://www.rookecustoms.com

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #118 on:** March 10, 2007, 11:45:40 AM »

Quote from: Slapguts on March 10, 2007, 07:43:13 AM

Quote from: gerhed on March 10, 2007, 03:58:57 AM
Teal,

Who made the gold #27 bike you pictured?--Is that a Chica? That fellow is on my wavelength.

Rooke. http://www.rookecustoms.com

Yup - Me and Jesse Rooke kinda have the same idea of what a clean bike should be (he just has the $$ to make it happen). I get allot of inspartion/ideas from his builds, among many other builders...

KB02 · « **Reply #119 on:** March 11, 2007, 07:22:12 AM »

okay, at first I was thinking, "yeah, yeah, yeah... another chopper builder... blah, blah, blah..." Then I saw THIS COOL LOOKING THING on his website.
That's a sweet looking ride!! And not something you'd expect out of a chopper shop.

chrisf · « **Reply #120 on:** March 12, 2007, 05:43:45 AM »

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I can see how I am gonna route the exhaust thru the hole (where the sidecovers used to be), and then exit on the right side of the bike much better now with the headpipes in place.

Not for nothing, because everyone has their own ideas, but routing the exhuast in that fashion seems much more trouble than its worth. Afterall, there is no real performance gain from twisting and bending the exhaust gases around. Why not just leave it as is? If you really wanted to go crazy AND get better performance, why not use a merge collector with a reverse cone?

I get the impression you're building a mean, tough street machine (much different than mine traditional psuedoracer, BTW). If so, you could always cut the pipes shorter--say 12" of each. That would be pretty cool too, especially with the black wrap you're talking about and the copper/brass endcaps.

Just my two cents; everyone has their own vision.

--Chris

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #121 on:** March 12, 2007, 06:36:52 AM »

Chris,

I hear ya bud on the exhaust (& appreciate your opinions..)
I have been thinking about it a few different ways (mainly money/time/effort/payoff/etc.)

I could do what ya said, and just cut the pipes straight, wrap them up and slap some caps on the end and call it a day. I could hollow out the stock CL mufflers and run those along with the head pipes for a "stocker" look. I could follow thru with my "FrankenExhaust" idea and see how it turns out, etc..

Believe me, I am fully aware of what exhaust designs make power, but with this bike I am not concerned. This bike (as my 750) is more about an overall look, more than trying to get every last HP outta the thing. If I build the FrankenExhaust and I loose 10 hp I will be perfectly fine with that. I would rather be known as the guy with that crazy little 450 with the funky exhaust, than the guy with the stock looking bike that makes crazy HP. If I wanted to have a wicked fast bike I would buy a Busa and throw a turbo on it..

I guess I am just trying to get the same effect on this bike with the exhaust (and other little things) that I got when I slapped a 21'' front wheel on my slammed to the ground CB750...

We shall see how things pan out in the next few weeks. I have an appointment to bring the bike to my buddies chassis shop this Friday night to have him permanently mount the rearsets for me, and mock-up some exhaust designs..And if the bike gets some funky exhaust and people don't like it, so be it.
It isn't their bike...

chrisf · « **Reply #122 on:** March 12, 2007, 06:52:17 AM »

Yeah, I understand. We're honestly on two very different pages--which really should be encouraged. Afterall, the bike is a reflection of the person. I was just throwing out some more ideas. Just be sure you're making it cool, not just different to be different...

--Chris

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #123 on:** March 12, 2007, 06:55:54 AM »

Quote from: chrisf on March 12, 2007, 06:52:17 AM

Just be sure you're making it cool, not just different to be different...

I have never done/built anything for any other reason than because I wanted to.
I have a very visual mind, and always try to create my ideas to the best of my (or my buddies) abilities..

The CB450 project is meant to be a low/slim/simple/loud little scoot to blast around the mean streets of Chicago. It isn't meant to be the fastest bike on the road, nor the most comfortable, etc.. Consider it a bar hopper that just happens to not be hardtail !

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #124 on:** March 13, 2007, 09:38:11 PM »

Some pics I took today of the CB450 project next to it's big brother the CB750 --->

The exhaust project is going down next weekend, and will have some more pics once that is done...

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