Topic: CB550 Rear Wheel Bearing Retainer Removal

[Keith61]

Hello Folks

I need to remove the bearings in the rear wheel of my 1975 CB550 F1 but I am struggling to undo the bearing retainer.
I have read that these may be "staked" but I cannot see any punch marks through the four holes in the retainer . Also that these may be a right or left hand thread depending on year.
Does anyone have any tips that may help please ?? I have made a Heath Robinson tool that should work , soaked the retainer in releasing oil and tried gentle heating of the hub but no joy.

Thanks .......Keith

[CycleRanger]

Do you have the shop manual yet?

http://honda4fun.com/materiale-documentazione-tecnica/shop-manual

Yeah, it may be reverse threaded. I'm sure some 500 owner will chime in shortly.

[Bodi]

The staking is not in the pin wrench holes. There should be punch mark dimples right in the thread gap, you just drill these down about 3/16" with roughly a 3/16" drill bit. On re-assembly, restake the retainer in two new places with a centre punch. You don't need to go mental with the staking. I've also drilled and tapped a #8 screw through the threads and loctited in a SS Allen set screw. Bearing widths are close tolerance but the retainer may not tighten with the stakes matching up again.

[Puffin]

I'm pretty sure they are reverse threaded...

I used a decent sized flat headed punch and a hammer.  Put the punch in one of the four holes at an angle and a few sharp blows in the direction you want to move it and it should start to give

[sinister902]

IF any of them are regular right hand thread it could be 77-78, but 500 and early (74-76) 550 wheels I've done were reverse threaded. To get it out take a good piece of flat bar and drill two holes in it the distance from one hole to another in the bearing retainer, then thread a nut and bolt through both holes and use the bolts into the bearing retainer as a wrench.

[wowbagger]

If you want to save the retainer, I'd recommend buying the correct tool for the job: http://www.davidsilverspares.com/CB550F1-SUPER-SPORT-1976/part_237043/

a hammer and punch will damage the holes and reduce the number of times you will be able to remove and reinstall the retainer.

[riffman12]

If you want to save the retainer, I'd recommend buying the correct tool for the job: http://www.davidsilverspares.com/CB550F1-SUPER-SPORT-1976/part_237043/

a hammer and punch will damage the holes and reduce the number of times you will be able to remove and reinstall the retainer.

or the cheap one:

http://4into1.com/motion-pro-rear-wheel-bearing-retainer-tool-honda-cb350-cl350-cb400f-cb750f-cb900f-cbx/

[wowbagger]

Does that one fit the 500/550s? It doesn't say that it does

[riffman12]

ah good point. Different size hole spacing huh

[greenjeans]

heat and PB blaster are your friend.   

[Wingnut74]

I just made a perfectly good tool for that - used flat steel strip 1/8' thick 1" wide that was laying around and drilled two holes just small enough hold (interference fit) two 3/16ths drill bits to stick out 1/8".  That was for a CB750K4 so just check what size bits you would need. Took 5-10 minutes to make - worked great.

[sinister902]

Does that one fit the 500/550s? It doesn't say that it does

it does not.

[heyitsrama]

i built my own,  (im not a rich guy like bagger    ) the spacing from the center of each punch is ~39mm / ~1.56in... mine was reverse threaded....
 


dont mind my crap welding though, the weld held.


The only mistake i made was not to remove the punch marks out with a drill, so i ended up ruining some of the smaller threads, this was resolved by using a matching pitch tap, and rolling it on the bearing till it took out the messed up sections.....

[Keith61]

Thanks for the advice so far. Bit busy at the moment so won't be able to get in the garage till next week.
Think I will have a crack at making a tool as described as what I made was a quick effort involving two bolts and a length of 4 by 2 wood. Just call me tight !!. Will update on how it goes.
One question . What is PB blaster ??

Ta .......Keith

[wowbagger]

i built my own,  (im not a rich guy like bagger    ) the spacing from the center of each punch is ~39mm / ~1.56in... mine was reverse threaded....
 


dont mind my crap welding though, the weld held.


The only mistake i made was not to remove the punch marks out with a drill, so i ended up ruining some of the smaller threads, this was resolved by using a matching pitch tap, and rolling it on the bearing till it took out the messed up sections.....

I am also poor. My homemade tool looks very similar to yours except that I welded an old socket to it for easier use.

[todd.s.holloway]

Does anyone know if the retainer nuts on the 550s are the same size as the 750s on the early 70s models

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[bryanj]

Nope