Author Topic: CB400 Four, version 9.0 for ME I flip for 400 fours (Read 31038 times)

MoMo · « **Reply #50 on:** May 24, 2016, 10:58:12 AM »

Quote from: calj737 on May 24, 2016, 04:53:02 AM

That stud has to be replaced too...

You mean I have to be replaced???.

zammykoo · « **Reply #51 on:** May 24, 2016, 11:27:32 AM »

Quote from: Stev-o on May 23, 2016, 08:34:56 PM

ARGHHHH!!!!!!!!

A little photoshop magic... have I gone too far?

strynboen · « **Reply #52 on:** May 24, 2016, 12:14:17 PM »

no just set fire on it....

RAFster122s · « **Reply #53 on:** May 24, 2016, 01:40:17 PM »

WAY TOO FAR...STAY FAR-FAR AWAY

Disgusting

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #54 on:** May 24, 2016, 02:23:03 PM »

Quote from: zammykoo on May 24, 2016, 11:27:32 AM

Quote from: Stev-o on May 23, 2016, 08:34:56 PM
ARGHHHH!!!!!!!!

A little photoshop magic... have I gone too far?

That just jumped the shark.

MoMo · « **Reply #55 on:** May 24, 2016, 08:20:39 PM »

Quote from: zammykoo on May 24, 2016, 11:27:32 AM

Quote from: Stev-o on May 23, 2016, 08:34:56 PM
ARGHHHH!!!!!!!!

A little photoshop magic... have I gone too far?

Piston diarrhea to the ninth degree. Good news to follow...Larry

MoMo · « **Reply #56 on:** May 24, 2016, 08:34:52 PM »

First thing that came to my mind was"I'm free, I'm free, and freedom tastes of reality".

I awoke this morn and heated #4 piston for somewhere around 10 to 15 minutes with a propane torch

The filled the cylinder with Seafoam and lit it up until it burned off. In conjunction with the following tools #4 broke loose.

After the Seafoam fire went out I lightly tried to move the breaker bar, then I put the brass mallet on top of #4 and tapped it with the ballpeen. Piston broke loose

The cylinder $:-\$

NobleHops · « **Reply #57 on:** May 24, 2016, 08:37:42 PM »

MoMo · « **Reply #58 on:** May 24, 2016, 08:40:40 PM »

Quote from: NobleHops on May 24, 2016, 08:37:42 PM

Thanks Nils, it was a good day to say the least...Larry

grcamna2 · « **Reply #59 on:** May 24, 2016, 09:31:00 PM »

Good to hear that Larry

MoMo · « **Reply #60 on:** May 24, 2016, 10:27:54 PM »

Quote from: grcamna2 on May 24, 2016, 09:31:00 PM

Good to hear that Larry

Thanks Bill, it was odd how it was tight as an old New England school marm then all of a sudden broke loose...Larry

MoMo · « **Reply #61 on:** May 24, 2016, 10:33:09 PM »

Next step will be pulling the motor so I can split the cases to assess any possible lower end damage. But I think I shall remove clutch cover before pulling motor. Pretty sure the clutch could be as ugly as #4 cylinder..

grcamna2 · « **Reply #62 on:** May 25, 2016, 06:55:38 AM »

Larry,
The bike must have sat w/ water in the tank(but the tank looked so clean..,probably not the orig. tank)and the petcock in 'reserve' so the water seeped in somehow.

SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan · « **Reply #63 on:** May 25, 2016, 08:29:16 AM »

Quote from: MoMo on May 24, 2016, 08:34:52 PM

The cylinder $:-\$

Not so clean. An slight overbore or new sleeve might be in the future? The consequences of piston diarrhea.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #64 on:** May 25, 2016, 09:30:24 AM »

But at best you 'flushed the pot'

and can start w/ a clean slate.

MoMo · « **Reply #65 on:** May 25, 2016, 06:05:02 PM »

Quote from: calj737 on May 25, 2016, 04:48:28 AM

That cylinder is screaming, "Bore me! Bore me! Bore me some more!!!"

I hope to resleeve that rather than bore all. I had 4 sleeves but sold them, hope to get one back.

Quote from: grcamna2 on May 25, 2016, 06:55:38 AM

Larry,
The bike must have sat w/ water in the tank(but the tank looked so clean..,probably not the orig. tank)and the petcock in 'reserve' so the water seeped in somehow.

It sat with #4 plug out, a previous PO cross threaded the head and left the plug out.

More pics to come, motor is out of the frame and I've found even more damage. Have to sit and pay bills now

zammykoo · « **Reply #66 on:** May 25, 2016, 07:41:08 PM »

More diarrhea in the crankcase?

MoMo · « **Reply #67 on:** May 25, 2016, 08:22:18 PM »

Quote from: zammykoo on May 25, 2016, 07:41:08 PM

More diarrhea in the crankcase?

Not really

MoMo · « **Reply #68 on:** May 25, 2016, 08:34:23 PM »

Didn't see this until I pulled the motor

Nor did I notice the frame had been reinforced, but it was a decent job.

Tip before removing motor from a 4oo four-remove the cam tensioner locking mechanism. I broke one off the first time I pulled a motor from a 400. That is how I KNOW.

NobleHops · « **Reply #69 on:** May 25, 2016, 08:39:26 PM »

Punt Larry. This bike is not worth your time. Or at least this engine. Local friend has a 400 engine, I can see how much he wants for it. Consider it?

Trad · « **Reply #70 on:** May 25, 2016, 09:05:27 PM »

That case is mangled!!! I'd look for a donor case asap. Who knows what's left to be found in that one.

MoMo · « **Reply #71 on:** May 25, 2016, 09:21:30 PM »

Quote from: Trad on May 25, 2016, 09:05:27 PM

That case is mangled!!! I'd look for a donor case asap. Who knows what's left to be found in that one.

I have a spare set of cases but I would then most likely have to invest in all new main bearings. From what I can see with the oil pan off the trans looks OK(I do have a spare trans).

Quote from: NobleHops on May 25, 2016, 08:39:26 PM

Punt Larry. This bike is not worth your time. Or at least this engine. Local friend has a 400 engine, I can see how much he wants for it. Consider it?

Can't hurt to check it out but shipping could be cost prohibitive. Thank you.

Quote from: calj737 on May 25, 2016, 08:54:29 PM

Rut-roh! That engine looks beaten up. Cross-threaded a plug and parked it, huh? Yeah right.

As for that frame repair, I was prepared to tell a joke but instead I'll just point at that weld- Whomever welded that needs to step away from the electrode...

Ugly but it does seem to be strong. Wish I had picked up welding skill along my path.

RAFster122s · « **Reply #72 on:** May 25, 2016, 11:11:23 PM »

Check with the local community college to see if they have a welding class that is NOT cost prohibitive... They have a welding program at our local community college and they give certificates for grads of the program and area business employ their grads. It's a win-win.
Or, find a friend that has one who would consider teaching you...you aren't too old of a dog to learn a new trick or two.

That case, nothing JB Weld wouldn't fix....

right... just kidding. Any big snotty pieces of RTV in the cases too?

David

MoMo · « **Reply #73 on:** May 26, 2016, 04:37:35 AM »

Quote from: RAF122S on May 25, 2016, 11:11:23 PM

Check with the local community college to see if they have a welding class that is NOT cost prohibitive... They have a welding program at our local community college and they give certificates for grads of the program and area business employ their grads. It's a win-win.
Or, find a friend that has one who would consider teaching you...you aren't too old of a dog to learn a new trick or two.

That case, nothing JB Weld wouldn't fix....

right... just kidding. Any big snotty pieces of RTV in the cases too?

David

No RTV, small miracle. The program you are referring to here is quite long and I don't care to dedicate that much time, especially when I still have a bit of house repair, and two Kawasakis , and a Triumph and possibly a Concours.......and

?? No friends that weld

- waiting of a local welder(who I know through a co-worker) to repair the pink 400. Regards...Larry

MoMo · « **Reply #74 on:** May 26, 2016, 04:46:30 AM »

Input thoughts on fixing the crankcase wanted. Since it is in an area where there isn't any oil nor pressure, it seems to me that if I could find a competent welder it could be fixed.

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Author Topic: CB400 Four, version 9.0 for ME I flip for 400 fours (Read 31038 times)