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Offline eigenvector

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Options for non-standard parts
« on: May 21, 2016, 02:25:36 PM »
I must have been high when I bought that CB700SC, nothing on that rig is standard. 

I am looking for replacements to the exhaust studs and come to find out they're also one of a kind.  8mm to 6mm 55mm long.  When I took off the Yoshi exhaust I saw that it wasn't made for this bike - the exhaust flanges were all F'd up and it was clear the owner used the 'bigger hammer' method of installing it.

Have sized up as many options as I can find, but nothing is looking good - all of them have some problems.
I can machine them from 8mm rod blanks, I can attempt to recut the threads on a 5/16 to 1/4 reducing stud (5/16 and 1/4 are both ~8mm and 6mm), I can try a thread insert to reduce the exhaust hole to 6mm (like it should have been all along!!  Honda you bastards), or I can try using a thread reducer/inverted flare nut.  I can also e-bay them but I'm not sure I want to persue this route except as a last resort.

If I machine them, probably the best solution, I'll have to farm that out.  I don't have a lathe, but I'd also have to buy like 50 of them to make it worth their while.


What does your experience tell you in situations like this - when you have a part which is no longer available and not easily produced from existing options?
So far my experience is telling me to hit up a machine shop and have them made.  But if I can find a flare nut that will work that doesn't sound like a bad solution either - if I can find one in steel rather than brass.
Rob
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Re: Options for non-standard parts
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2016, 02:48:37 PM »
What about Helicoils ?
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Re: Options for non-standard parts
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2016, 04:18:07 PM »
That's an option, but for some reason I thought helicoils would ruin or alter the existing 8mm hole.  I am really interested in preserving the original hole in case I do eventually have the bolts machined.  I operate on the principle that I can't put the metal back once I drill it away - so first try to save it.

If helicoils will preserve the original 8mm hole, then problem solved - end of discussion.  I can go with a timesert as well - I do already have a 6mm timesert kit that I used to repair the valve cover mounts on my CB750.
Rob
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Re: Options for non-standard parts
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2016, 06:25:40 PM »
Well it's been a day or two since I last used them but It's a permanent solution and they are in metric I'd check with them and see what they say.
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Re: Options for non-standard parts
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2016, 07:02:38 PM »
Honda used a 8mm to 6mm reducing stud, 55mm long (edit, corrected to 55mm).  So I have an 8mm stud hole in the cylinder head and a 6mm hole in the exhaust header.
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1983 VF750S Sabre

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Re: Options for non-standard parts
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2016, 07:03:48 PM »
What's the header flange look like? Can it be drilled to accept an 8mm stud?
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Re: Options for non-standard parts
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2016, 07:08:12 PM »
I would rather keep it stock - but yes, potentially I could oversize the flange holes.  My guess is that all I'd end up doing is cracking the flanges :) but if no other solution presents itself then that could be the best solution.
Rob
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1983 VF750S Sabre