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HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« on: June 01, 2016, 07:57:56 PM »
Alright so,

Im taking my carbs apart for a full rebuild (bike I purchased hasn't ran in over a decade). Carb for cylinder 1 came apart okay, the pin that hold the floats in as very rusted in place (floats wouldn't budge up or down), I was able to get it out with a bunch of pbblaster and a punch. On to carb #2, same issue, only this one was even worse and low and behold, I tried knocking it out after using pbblaster as well as a blow torch, and the pin was so stuck that it remained and the piece it connects to actually bent and has cracked slightly at the base. Doh!!!

Well anyways, I hoped on here as I always do for guidance from all who want to offer it. What are my options? Is this pretty much a, well f*** it, replace the carb? It's a cb750k6, stamping on the carb is 086A. If that's the case... Anyone want to sell me a spare? Doesn't have to come with jets as I'm replacing all.

Thanks in advance sohc4!

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2016, 08:03:32 PM »
contact forum member Jim French for repair or Harisluv for parts...Larry

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2016, 08:06:15 PM »
contact forum member Jim French for repair or Harisluv for parts...Larry

Does Jim have a remedy for pitting on the carburetor bodies?

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2016, 08:07:18 PM »
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=18649.0
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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2016, 08:10:27 PM »
contact forum member Jim French for repair or Harisluv for parts...Larry

Does Jim have a remedy for pitting on the carburetor bodies?


not sure but I can vouch that he is a fine microwelder and may be able to repair that body.  Forum member noblehops does vapor blasting-maybe contact him

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2016, 08:12:30 PM »
Any 70-76 carb body will work.  They're functionally identical, only the jets differ.
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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2016, 08:51:38 PM »
contact forum member Jim French for repair or Harisluv for parts...Larry

Thanks! I will reach out to him. After looking at the thread link Danyo posted it looks like he has the remedy for my exact problem.

Any 70-76 carb body will work.  They're functionally identical, only the jets differ.
7A, 657A & B

Mine are stamped with 086, but can be replaced with any carb from 70-76 regardless of stamping so long as I put the same jet sizes as the other 3 carbs? Just in case my first plan doesn't work

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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2016, 09:02:00 PM »
 Did you mean any year from 71 -76, ie, K1-K6 ?
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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2016, 09:44:08 PM »
I sell just about any carb bodies soda blasted and ready to go.

The 086A bodies are a little rare.  I have a couple of those but not the right cylinder for you.  I have two #2 064A bodies, which are identical.  Now as stated previously, the bodies are basically all interchangeable, however there are some casting/cosmetic differences that aren't the same with the 76k carbs and super sport models.  Mainly the two "wings" that are on each side of the air intake above the mixture screw.

TLDR:  I have two #2 064A bodies that will work for you, one has some pitting $25 shipped, the other is just about pristine $45 shipped.

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2016, 10:38:07 PM »
I sell just about any carb bodies soda blasted and ready to go.

The 086A bodies are a little rare.  I have a couple of those but not the right cylinder for you.  I have two #2 064A bodies, which are identical.  Now as stated previously, the bodies are basically all interchangeable, however there are some casting/cosmetic differences that aren't the same with the 76k carbs and super sport models.  Mainly the two "wings" that are on each side of the air intake above the mixture screw.

TLDR:  I have two #2 064A bodies that will work for you, one has some pitting $25 shipped, the other is just about pristine $45 shipped.

Any 69A bodies in that lot Harisluv?

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2016, 12:48:57 AM »
If you try bending it back upright it may break.  Even if it doesn't, it's weakened.

I actually put a bank of 4 carbs on a bike, where one of the carbs had only 1 post -- I ran into the same issue, stuck float pivot pin in one of the posts,  and I'm really ham-fisted and busted it off.

Bike ran fine.  Had one of the 4 carbs with only 1 post.

But I got lucky.  I have seen others try a '1 poster' and the float didn't turn the gas off and that one carb leaked out the overflow.

If you can, replace it with a good solid carb body -- good peace of mind.   These old bikes we ride, they already have a fair amount of breakdown or breaking risk even if everything's ship shape.   The more things I can eliminate the less risk of a breakdown.

I got stranded once on a fine-running Kaw 400 triple.  It was a low mileage very good running, good condition machine.  The throttle cable broke.    Bunch of miles away from home. 


One other reason I like to replace with solid parts:  when I go to sell the bike, I don't have to disclose a repair, and I can look the buyer in the eye and say 'no hidden issues'. 

It's just me, personally, wanting the bike to go to the new owner the way I'd want to buy a used bike -- as little risk of a failure somewhere as possible.

I can't speak though to the microwelding, don't have experience with it,  for all I know it's real solid.


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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2016, 12:51:38 AM »
069A bodies?  (cb550f)

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2016, 04:47:02 AM »
 As for how you got there and for people in the future dealing with old gummy tar in their carbs use plenty of penetrate and a heat gun to soften and melt it while being very careful with a good punch.

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2016, 05:09:06 AM »
Did you mean any year from 71 -76, ie, K1-K6 ?

Yes

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2016, 10:02:25 AM »
I do, but depends on what number you need.  You probably need a #4, which I don't have atm (I think).

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2016, 11:21:46 AM »
Don't feel too bad Dick. I broke a post on one of my GL1000 carbs a few years ago. This is a common enough issue that Randaaks sells a kit specifically for repairing broken posts  on GL carbs. I used it on mine.
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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2016, 12:06:32 PM »
I do, but depends on what number you need.  You probably need a #4, which I don't have atm (I think).

I've got varying degrees of pitting in all the bodies, no.4 included.

Is there anything that can be done besides replacement?

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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2016, 01:48:25 PM »
Nothing practical IMO. 

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2016, 09:18:27 PM »
 I had a post that was corroded away on the end, I jb welded a brass bullet casing over what was left, drilled through the opposing pin hole into the casing and epoxy and it was working last time I saw the bike. It might not help your break and mickey mouse for sure. It wasn't a Honda and didn't deserve a new carb.
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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2016, 09:45:25 PM »
I had a post that was corroded away on the end, I jb welded a brass bullet casing over what was left, drilled through the opposing pin hole into the casing and epoxy and it was working last time I saw the bike. It might not help your break and mickey mouse for sure. It wasn't a Honda and didn't deserve a new carb.
 I'm a big fan of spare parts for my cb's.

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« Reply #21 on: June 03, 2016, 06:54:19 AM »
I had a post that was corroded away on the end, I jb welded a brass bullet casing over what was left, drilled through the opposing pin hole into the casing and epoxy and it was working last time I saw the bike. It might not help your break and mickey mouse for sure. It wasn't a Honda and didn't deserve a new carb.
 I'm a big fan of spare parts for my cb's.

That's a pretty neat fix. Don't think it would help the current situation but still cool. A member on here, Jim French does micro-welding and is going to take care of it for me. Unbelievably nice guy. Also.... mickey mouse? I'm not sure I'm familiar with what this is referencing? Obviously I know Mickey Mouse, but what in the carbs is nick-named that? Just never heard the phrase before... the floats?

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Re: HELP- broken carb- I'm an idiot!
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2016, 08:10:09 AM »
I had a post that was corroded away on the end, I jb welded a brass bullet casing over what was left, drilled through the opposing pin hole into the casing and epoxy and it was working last time I saw the bike. It might not help your break and mickey mouse for sure. It wasn't a Honda and didn't deserve a new carb.
 I'm a big fan of spare parts for my cb's.

That's a pretty neat fix. Don't think it would help the current situation but still cool. A member on here, Jim French does micro-welding and is going to take care of it for me. Unbelievably nice guy. Also.... mickey mouse? I'm not sure I'm familiar with what this is referencing? Obviously I know Mickey Mouse, but what in the carbs is nick-named that? Just never heard the phrase before... the floats?

Mickey mouse is a slang for "half-arsed repair".  If I recall correctly

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« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2016, 11:15:30 AM »
I had a post that was corroded away on the end, I jb welded a brass bullet casing over what was left, drilled through the opposing pin hole into the casing and epoxy and it was working last time I saw the bike. It might not help your break and mickey mouse for sure. It wasn't a Honda and didn't deserve a new carb.
 I'm a big fan of spare parts for my cb's.

That's a pretty neat fix. Don't think it would help the current situation but still cool. A member on here, Jim French does micro-welding and is going to take care of it for me. Unbelievably nice guy. Also.... mickey mouse? I'm not sure I'm familiar with what this is referencing? Obviously I know Mickey Mouse, but what in the carbs is nick-named that? Just never heard the phrase before... the floats?

Mickey mouse is a slang for "half-arsed repair".  If I recall correctly


hmmm.. never heard that before

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« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2016, 12:03:11 PM »
"mickey mouse" may not be a common bit of slang in FL but, is very common here in the north-
east. And, Bomber is right on the mark regarding the meaning!  ;)
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