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Offline turboguzzi

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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #50 on: June 07, 2016, 03:34:22 PM »
let's not mention what happened to honda when they tried to lower the CG on spencer's bike by putting the fuel under the engine....

most fast racing beemers ive seen have indeed the engine sitting pretty high

but a chain drive beemer? that's cheating!

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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #51 on: June 07, 2016, 05:10:19 PM »
let's not mention what happened to honda when they tried to lower the CG on spencer's bike by putting the fuel under the engine....

most fast racing beemers ive seen have indeed the engine sitting pretty high

but a chain drive beemer? that's cheating!

That's a standard mod, and legal when they are used in sidecars.
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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #52 on: June 08, 2016, 10:24:05 AM »
never seen a chain drive bm over here , if anyone has a picture i would love to see it .

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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #53 on: June 08, 2016, 10:51:33 AM »
Here to help.... ;)

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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #54 on: June 08, 2016, 11:39:11 AM »
Sorry Simon, I just didn't take any pictures. I emailed Gunther for a couple, we'll see how often he checks. It's very light & nimble and although it doesn't have the legs of my 550 it comes off the corners well. This doesn't show the drive well. I'll get pictures next time. Cool bike.



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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #55 on: June 08, 2016, 02:25:06 PM »
thanks George , thanks brent !

i am very curious how he has done the conversion , looks a nice bike

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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #56 on: June 08, 2016, 03:27:21 PM »
Generally they use a geared (crown & pinion?) 90 degree take off that bolts to the engine.  There was a picture of it on a sidecar site, I'll see if I can find it.
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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #57 on: June 08, 2016, 03:57:42 PM »
The thing is tiny.

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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #58 on: June 08, 2016, 05:14:12 PM »
This is the sidecar photo I was thinking of.  Used the stock rear drive attached directly to the engine with a custom adapter, and a custom shaft for the sprocket.  To bulky for a bike but gives you the idea of how it's done. 

http://www.steveenglish.com/forum/download/file.php?mode=view&id=12856
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1977 CB550/4 Cafe - Speed Warrior / BOTM 03/11
1980 CB750F (project)
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1973 CB750 K - basket case (SOLD)
77 CB550 Cafe build
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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #59 on: June 09, 2016, 01:36:28 PM »
thanks tintop i can see how that works on an outfit but it would make for a very long engine on a solo

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Re: I watched Brent Waller's and his son's bike on the dyno today...
« Reply #60 on: June 09, 2016, 02:03:40 PM »
thanks tintop i can see how that works on an outfit but it would make for a very long engine on a solo

That is a basically 'down & dirty' solution using the original parts.  The housing could be made much more compact if custom machined, and it used a small crown & pinion.
1977 CB550/4 Cafe - Speed Warrior / BOTM 03/11
1980 CB750F (project)
Whittaker GBF Vintage Racing Sidecar (XS750 power) - ITG / 151's / CMR Racing Products (SOLD)
1976 CB400 SS - stock / BOTM 04/11 (SOLD)
1973 CB750 K - basket case (SOLD)
77 CB550 Cafe build
550/750 Filter Thread
Sidecar Rebuild Thread