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Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« on: November 18, 2006, 12:13:24 PM »
11/21 - Ooops, my bad... I just got my order in and the hoses needed should be 10AN, NOT 8AN.  The correct part number is AER-FCA1006 at Summit for the hose, the hose clamps were correct and do not change.  I checked the specs before ordering but must have got the hose size wrong.  I have to do a return and resend.  FYI!

A few month's ago I posted some pics of the oil hoses I built for my Cafe' conversion and a few folks wondered what part numbers to use and how to do it etc........

Today I am ordering the stuff to build another set for my CR750 conversion so I thought now that I remember what to order I would post the info.  As a reminder there are pics below of my hoses I built for the cafe' ...

The parts you will need are 6 feet of Aeroquip 10 AN Braided Stainless Steel hose part number AER-FCA1006.  Also the four hose clamp ends you will need are the EAR-900110ERL Hose Clamp, Econ-O-Fit, -10 AN, Stainless Steel, Red Anodized or any other color available.  I order the parts at www.summitracing.com for a decent deal and great service.  You might be able to get away with 3 feet of hose but I think it's too close to count on it, no room for error.

The first thing to do is drian the oil from the oil tank by removing the hoses where they mount to the engine with a big oil catch pan under that area.  The next thing is to note the fittings and which of the two hoses they go on to, one hose is shorter than the other and one hose has a elbow fitting versus a straight one.  The next process is to take a dremel or cut-off wheel and cut the swaged fittings around the original hoses, I usually cut lengthwise through the fitting making sure not to cut into the actual aluminum fitting itself.  Then make a second cut to eliminate the metal that wraps around towards the fitting barbs, so the cut looks like a "T".  Once you cut through the pressed on swaged fitting, the tension is released and you can pull the hose off the fitting leaving you with the actual hose end to be re-used.

Then once you have all four fittings removed I degrease them and then glass bead them real quick for a brand new satin aluminum look, it's amazing how they look brand new with a little glass bead work.  After rinsing them really well inside and out I cut the Aeroquipe hose in the same length as the extended original hoses making sure to minimize the fraying of the stainless braid ends to help with sliding the hose clamps on.

Next assemble the right pair of ends with the correct hose lengths to make the new hoses.  Make sure to unscrew open up the clamps as much as possible without relaeasing the worm gear attachment to the clamp end.  This will help with getting the clamp over the cut hose ends and also when installing the hose onto the fittings.

The next step is my favorite, getting the ends onto the assembled hoses, the fit is EXTREMELY tight so you will have to work the hose back and forth aggressively pushing it and the hose clamp onto the aluminum fittings.  Some silicone or other harmless lubricant will really help here since the fit is important to get the fittings firmly secured into the hose ends.  Then make sure to tighten the clamps without over tightining them and harming the hoses or stripping the clamps.

Lastly the satisfying part, install the new hoses with the inside hose first, then show off to all your buddies!!  ;) ;D  See pics .....
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Re: Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2006, 12:59:14 PM »
good post! a tip for getting the hoses on is to heat them in warm/hot water for a bit.

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Re: Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2006, 01:12:32 PM »
nice piece on the oil lines  ;), in your picture it shows the new red anodised ends not going all the way up to the shoulder is this an issue ? thanks in advance,      ;) mick.
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Re: Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2006, 02:14:14 PM »
Here are some pics from a few minutes ago when I removed the ends from a hose set to prepare to make another braided set.  It may clairify some of the cuts ..... I spread the swaged metal with an old screwdriver and the fittings popped right out.  FYI ......
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Re: Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2006, 02:18:16 PM »
nice piece on the oil lines  ;), in your picture it shows the new red anodised ends not going all the way up to the shoulder is this an issue ? thanks in advance,      ;) mick.

It looks like they are not in all of the way but actually the fittings have pretty long barbs and the clamp is well in past the end barbs. Also that was as far as they would physically go on for some unknown reason ???
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Re: Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2006, 03:47:37 PM »
thanks for the great explanation and pictures 8),     mick.
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Re: Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2006, 06:37:22 PM »
Hey Mike,how much was it for 6' of hose and the 4 clamps? I would also like to sweeten up the appearance of mine. Carpy wants $150 a set and I know they can be made cheaper.
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Re: Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2006, 07:48:50 PM »
Hey Mike,how much was it for 6' of hose and the 4 clamps? I would also like to sweeten up the appearance of mine. Carpy wants $150 a set and I know they can be made cheaper.

If you go to the link I provided with Summit and use the part numbers I listed it is $36 for the hose and $26 for the clamps.  Also $10 for handling but no shipping charges, definitely cheaper, but there is some hassle labor involved, I wouldn't want to do these for a living! ;)
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Re: Stainless Braided Oil Hoses
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2006, 07:58:03 PM »
So around $75 should do it? Sounds good....I'm not afraid of the labor. I'm a mechanic by trade. I have dealt with Summit before (Hi-po Chevy stuff). I've used cut-off wheels to cut the stock bands off of the hoses before. Ford Taurus heater hoses (a better idea?....yeah...for them to take more of your $ !) You just don't want to cut too deep and ruin your fittings. Thanks Mike....I will keep the part #'s you gave for when I'm ready.
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