Topic: Had a small accident with a scooter today

[Bankerdanny]

I T-boned another cyclist who was riding on the wrong side of the Chicago lakefront path in the early 1990's. We were headed towards each other and every time I tried to swerve to avoid her she swerved in the same direction. Finally I ran into her going about 15mph, flew about 6 feet in the air and barrel rolled to a stop. She hit the pavement hard and got a deluxe ambulance ride to the hospital where I am told she had to have surgery to relieve fluid buildup in her skull. Needless to say, she wasn't wearing a helmet.

Fortunately it was a different time and even though the cops did get my information, her friends that were with her told them it wasn't my fault and so no ticket was issued and I never heard from anyone about it.

[FunJimmy]

There sure is a sense of entitlement amongst some motorists thought.
Be thankful you don't cycle in the UK.

[BomberMann650]

There sure is a sense of entitlement amongst some motorists thought.
Be thankful you don't cycle in the UK.

Where I come from, dem are fightin words.
Minute someone threaten to kill me, my only goal be to kill them first.

[trenchgrinder750]

I know it's easy for me to say, but what were you looking for him to do? Just keep his line as you went by, or move to the right as you approached? Either way, you passed while expecting him to do one thing and he did something else. Maybe a toot of your horn and wait for him to acknowledge you, or wait to pass until you are sure of what he's going to do?

I guess I was expecting him to stay straight or move right. last thing I was expecting was left.  typically you pass on the left.  but yes, I agree with you should have waiting longer for his reaction.

[calj737]

There sure is a sense of entitlement amongst some motorists thought.
Be thankful you don't cycle in the UK.

Dunno. Had to tell from the video, but wonder if the driver had a point: is the cyclist not using the designated travel lane? They both seem rather "mental" to me, but hey, I'm from the chilled-out South. We just honk and pilot our pick ups along with a friendly wave. Deer strapped across the hood and all...

[Duanob]

I got zero respect from motorists (and a few pedestrians) when I used to bicycle commute. 

One of the few times I did ride side by side down a road with another cyclist.  A man on a big ol cruiser motorcycle began to yell at us.
Four lane road, we too up too much of it for his taste.  Kindly suggested we "use the #$%*ing bike lane" - seemed he didn't know "south seattle bike lane" is synonymous with "broken glass collector"

Either way, my experience with bicycling in a metro area led me to the conclusion; if your ride only has two wheels, you're gonna get #$%*ed around by someone with an attitude.

So when I came up on a man riding his (rather beatiful) 07 Orbea Orca down the middle of a country road, I waited for him to move right.
When he didn't, i cruised up next to him, opened the visor, shouted "nice bike", waved, and continued on my way.

Good man! I can't say that would be me riding an Orbea but it could've been one of my buds. Although most of will get out of the way. On the other side of it there are lot's of entitled bicycle riders in the Seattle area, that go way past sharing the road, they act like they F'ing own it! Gives the rest of cyclists a bad name. I guess it's the same for motos too.

Trenchgrinder: Instead of getting mad have a laugh by watching this scooter fail I still ROTFLMFOA every time!

[BomberMann650]

I got zero respect from motorists (and a few pedestrians) when I used to bicycle commute. 

One of the few times I did ride side by side down a road with another cyclist.  A man on a big ol cruiser motorcycle began to yell at us.
Four lane road, we too up too much of it for his taste.  Kindly suggested we "use the #$%*ing bike lane" - seemed he didn't know "south seattle bike lane" is synonymous with "broken glass collector"

Either way, my experience with bicycling in a metro area led me to the conclusion; if your ride only has two wheels, you're gonna get #$%*ed around by someone with an attitude.

So when I came up on a man riding his (rather beatiful) 07 Orbea Orca down the middle of a country road, I waited for him to move right.
When he didn't, i cruised up next to him, opened the visor, shouted "nice bike", waved, and continued on my way.

Good man! I can't say that would be me riding an Orbea but it could've been one of my buds. Although most of will get out of the way. On the other side of it there are lot's of entitled bicycle riders in the Seattle area, that go way past sharing the road, they act like they F'ing own it! Gives the rest of cyclists a bad name. I guess it's the same for motos too.

Trenchgrinder: Instead of getting mad have a laugh by watching this scooter fail I still ROTFLMFOA every time!

What could be the odds the scooter wrecker was drunk?

[FunJimmy]

Dunno. Had to tell from the video, but wonder if the driver had a point: is the cyclist not using the designated travel lane? They both seem rather "mental" to me, but hey, I'm from the chilled-out South. We just honk and pilot our pick ups along with a friendly wave. Deer strapped across the hood and all...

Not all of you. Some run the cyclists over.

http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/michigan-bicycle-accident/486140/

[70CB750]

My beef with cyclist - and I am one too - is they do not folow rules. They behave like they are excempt from everything.  I seen a moron on a bicycle negotiate crossing at route 29 in NoVa while cars had red light or orange light. He made it accross safely, but it sure was hazardous riding.

If you ride on the road, behave like a vehicle not like you own the road.

[calj737]

Dunno. Had to tell from the video, but wonder if the driver had a point: is the cyclist not using the designated travel lane? They both seem rather "mental" to me, but hey, I'm from the chilled-out South. We just honk and pilot our pick ups along with a friendly wave. Deer strapped across the hood and all...

Not all of you. Some run the cyclists over.

http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/michigan-bicycle-accident/486140/

Jim - I mean this in the most heartfelt manner, I love you, Brother. But Michigan is NOT the South. Never has been, never will be.

There's your Geography lesson for the day. 

[FunJimmy]

Jim - I mean this in the most heartfelt manner, I love you, Brother. But Michigan is NOT the South. Never has been, never will be.

There's your Geography lesson for the day. 

Ok Cal. You got me man.
How about this dude?
That oughta learn them cyclists. 

[calj737]

Well, I don't think that's from the South either, but I sure didn't see any hateful treatment or wreck less driving by what I can only assume is a BSA rider (judging from the smoke) streaking past the cyclists.

[FunJimmy]

Well, I don't think that's from the South either, but I sure didn't see any hateful treatment or wreck less driving by what I can only assume is a BSA rider (judging from the smoke) streaking past the cyclists.

You do realize that was intentional and (near) perfectly timed. Right? I get that it's not an illegal offence to be a total Dick, but come on. What's also interesting is that this Redneck thought it worthy to record and posted to YouTube.

[eigenvector]

That's being a total ass, no way I'd ever defend that guy.  Suckin' diesel fumes just isn't my idea of fun or healthy, way to ruin the great outdoors jerk.

Does Dodge design their trucks to be as loud as humanly possible - they're ALL obnoxiously loud.

[calj737]

I'm just asking, are you saying the driver intentionally caused his engine to belch diesel exhaust just because he was passing the line of cyclists?

If so, you need to know a bit about older diesels. They always smoked under load. The truck is climbing a hill, and I guarantee you, it's belching smoke just like it would when pulling away from a light on a city street.

As for whether he was "enjoying" pasting them with fumes and recorded, sure, I agree, seems like a bizarre personal enjoyment. Is it possible he was filming the scenery?

[seanbarney41]

Cal, yes the driver was doing it intentionally.  Just google "rollin' coal".  Have had it done to me while on my motorcycle.  It sucks.  I work on Cummins engines everyday for money and hate every last one of them.

[FunJimmy]

Cal, yes the driver was doing it intentionally.  Just google "rollin' coal". Have had it done to me while on my motorcycle.  It sucks.  I work on Cummins engines everyday for money and hate every last one of them.

Done!

According to the Urban Dictionary:

Rollin' Coal

When stupid-ass white trash people turn the injection pump up on rickety-ass broken down 12V Cummins-powered Dodges and subsequently install 5" smokestacks in the bed of said Dodge. Then said WT decides to post youtube videos of their truck blanketing neighborhoods with black diesel soot.

Regardless of engine technology progressing to the point of nearly eliminating black smoke and producing nearly double the power of modded mechanically-injected diesel engine in stock form, a "Coal Rollin'" owner will respond with a not-so-clever response of "I'd rather be Cummin than Strokin." Referring to his belief that his Cummins engine is better than International's Powerstroke engine series found in Ford trucks. Because Isuzu's Duramax engien found in GM-branded trucks cannot be directly correlated to any phallic self-gratification, they are typically ignored.

[Don R]

 I had just rebuilt the brakes on my cheapo 79 goldwing, on the test ride a kid on a bicycle blew a stop sign and rode right into my path, as I turned,  he did too but stayed in my path. Like he had target fixation on the front of my bike. I finally locked the rear wheel to wake him the F' up and he turned away just before it was too late. Dipstick must not have had any brakes at all.

[70CB750]

That diesel truck stunt happen to me on local road here.  You could tell he done it on purpose.

[calj737]

Cal, yes the driver was doing it intentionally.  Just google "rollin' coal".  Have had it done to me while on my motorcycle.  It sucks.  I work on Cummins engines everyday for money and hate every last one of them.

Sean then you of all people MUST know if it is indeed a Cummins, he "didn't need to do anything" extra, they always were the smokiest POS on the road.

This "rollin' coal" thing I am unaware of. I need to get out more I guess...

MY only defense is: at least the video Jimmy posted wasnt of me, or my friends from the South. Scenery is too darn pretty! (Not withstanding the truck driver mucking up the place of course). No fan of things/people like that. 

[calj737]

FJ - I have always smiled because of your signature:

"You never see a motorcycle parked outside of a psychiatrist's office!"

I must say, up until this very day, I would have 100% agreed. Regrettably, I believe there is a Hipster in the universe who will ride his motorcycle to Court Appointed Psychiatric treatment in the very near future. And he might just do so while speeding along at 80MPH in 2nd gear...

[BomberMann650]

FJ - I have always smiled because of your signature:

"You never see a motorcycle parked outside of a psychiatrist's office!"

I told that joke to my shrink.

The shrink i had previously fired also recommended I read "zen & the art of motorcycle maintenance".

[FunJimmy]

FJ - I have always smiled because of your signature:

"You never see a motorcycle parked outside of a psychiatrist's office!"

I must say, up until this very day, I would have 100% agreed. Regrettably, I believe there is a Hipster in the universe who will ride his motorcycle to Court Appointed Psychiatric treatment in the very near future. And he might just do so while speeding along at 80MPH in 2nd gear...

Really?  Did it look like the knife needed another twist?
I know JWilde didn't drink the Cal Kool-Aid and that must have really offended you but when do we start to make him feel welcome again?

[calj737]

LOL! You presume too much.

[Gene]

Dunno. Had to tell from the video, but wonder if the driver had a point: is the cyclist not using the designated travel lane? They both seem rather "mental" to me, but hey, I'm from the chilled-out South. We just honk and pilot our pick ups along with a friendly wave. Deer strapped across the hood and all...

Not all of you. Some run the cyclists over.

http://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2016/06/michigan-bicycle-accident/486140/

Jim - I mean this in the most heartfelt manner, I love you, Brother. But Michigan is NOT the South. Never has been, never will be.

There's your Geography lesson for the day. 

Oh, but Cal, there are soooooooo many similarities.  And that scooter is the funniest thing I've seen in a long while.