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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #75 on: June 02, 2017, 05:50:39 AM »
I like the patina on that tank.

I kind of wanted to keep the old faded tank, but get them emblems touched up, and throw clear over it. I think it would look cool as this is obviously not a resto. Is there a better method of adding a bit of gloss to the old tank?

Just throwing in my two cents as I've been reading your thread since you complimented my tank.. I would take a look at getting it ceramic coated. The process is expensive for cars, but for something as small as a tank, it would be a good investment. It's essentially like a long lasting coat of wax that literally bonds on a molecular level to the paint on your tank. This makes the surface of the tank stronger, less porous, and holds its shine. Water beads up automatically and dirt doesn't really stick to it. I would assume this would be the best way to preserve the look of the tank, as if the tank was glossed over, it would still need to be sanded down with 700 grit to get the paint to hold, and at that point no one knows how thin the paint is, so you could do more harm than good. Though, you can get the paint depth measured, but really, it seems like a shorter process to just get a ceramic coating hahaha.

Btw, you own a Scout? I love those! For the longest time I wanted to get one with a Nissan turbo diesel in it (think they had those as an option for the last two production years) but they don't last at all with the New England rust.
Thanks for the suggestions! I also shouldn't call it a build, but rather a learning experience, as this is my first motorcycle meant for road use. I have likely offended purists everywhere but I got hooked on the aesthetics of certain builds done on these bikes and wanted that look. Regarding the ceramic coating,  I will have to look this up today. I have only really heard of it for exhaust use, so it was not even on my radar. Is it purely a coating on the exterior?

Yes I daily drive a 79. It has been in the rust belt its entire life, but the frame is solid and runs great, only 90k miles now. I figured I would replace the body panels when(if) i ever finish this CB haha. Most people think I am crazy or poor, driving this old truck, but after sitting in front of computer monitors all day, getting into that analog truck is refreshing. Plus, once I get some work in on that body, I can take the top off. :)



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To restore the luster of your tank, you can simply wet sand it (lightly, use 1200 grit, then 2,000) and only the top of it. The Black is a single stage paint, the color is multi. The use a quality foam pad to buff it out. You can follow-up with the nano-ceramic coating Marissa recommends for tremendous protection (UV and Chemical). The only trick about the nano coating is the taped on stripes.  :-\

The badges you can restore with some Testers Model paint and shoot some rattle can clear over them.

Here's a quick glimpse of a Sunrise Orange I did a few years ago that was in worse shape than yours-

That is nice and shiny! Did you pull the emblems off at all? Cal, rather than spending all this time on the forum, you should just come get your hands dirty on this bike.  ;D


I spent some time figuring out the rear brakes yesterday. I wanted to ensure everything works before taking off the parts to polish. I read that the pedal should move an inch before the brake pads make contact. If that is incorrect, please correct me so I don't lock up the rears and kill myself.


I also soaked the carbs in Berrymans, but forgot to take an after pic. I will get around to it. I felt like I needed to watch more videos regarding the pin that holds the floats in. I thought it slides out, but I feel like I am going to break something if I applied any more force.

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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #76 on: June 02, 2017, 06:03:33 AM »
If that bike were closer, I'd certainly get it clean with you. Even if the rear brake were out of adjustment, I'm dubious that you could lock up the bike with the rear drum alone. Some travel before engagement is appropriate, but not so much that you can't apply them without repositioning your foot fully.

The emblems were off the tank for the paint restoration. It did come out nicely and that simple phone camera picture doesn't do that original paint justice.

The "ceramic" coating is very different than the exhaust coating. The ceramic paint coating is a nano molecule for a paint protection, like a super wax really. Its applied over corrected paint, then cured with Infra Red lights.
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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #77 on: June 02, 2017, 07:05:16 AM »
If that bike were closer, I'd certainly get it clean with you. Even if the rear brake were out of adjustment, I'm dubious that you could lock up the bike with the rear drum alone. Some travel before engagement is appropriate, but not so much that you can't apply them without repositioning your foot fully.

The emblems were off the tank for the paint restoration. It did come out nicely and that simple phone camera picture doesn't do that original paint justice.

The "ceramic" coating is very different than the exhaust coating. The ceramic paint coating is a nano molecule for a paint protection, like a super wax really. Its applied over corrected paint, then cured with Infra Red lights.

Sounds like an excuse! Thanks though, you have done plenty with your helpful posts here and on other threads. Is your career based around these somehow or just have vast experience?  8)

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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #78 on: June 02, 2017, 07:23:46 AM »
Another segue, but I need to sign up for the basic rider educational course asap. They provide the bike, but it requires me to get a helmet much sooner than my own bike is complete. Everyone I know seems to prefer the look of the open face helmet paired with a shield, or sunglasses, but as I am the one who will break my jaw, I was leaning towards the Bell Bullitt. I do like the Biltwell Gringo, but I have seen both positive and negative reviews. I do like the vintage look, but also don't want it to be purely for looks. They are all DOT certified, but from reading, that may not apply to the lower section in front of the jaw. Any other recommendations? 

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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #79 on: June 02, 2017, 07:56:52 AM »
Another segue, but I need to sign up for the basic rider educational course asap. They provide the bike, but it requires me to get a helmet much sooner than my own bike is complete. Everyone I know seems to prefer the look of the open face helmet paired with a shield, or sunglasses, but as I am the one who will break my jaw, I was leaning towards the Bell Bullitt. I do like the Biltwell Gringo, but I have seen both positive and negative reviews. I do like the vintage look, but also don't want it to be purely for looks. They are all DOT certified, but from reading, that may not apply to the lower section in front of the jaw. Any other recommendations?

Remember this is your face and brain you are protecting, so don't be a cheapskate.  Try on several helmets before you buy, and don't buy based solely on looks.  Different people have different shaped heads.  That's one of the reasons why Arai has two different helmet shapes.  Bullitt helmets look cool, but have a frequent criticism of wind noise.

I have a couple of open face helmets but I only wear them for parade rides like the DGR.  I would recommend a quality-made, full-face helmet. 
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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #80 on: June 02, 2017, 08:01:56 AM »
Another segue, but I need to sign up for the basic rider educational course asap. They provide the bike, but it requires me to get a helmet much sooner than my own bike is complete. Everyone I know seems to prefer the look of the open face helmet paired with a shield, or sunglasses, but as I am the one who will break my jaw, I was leaning towards the Bell Bullitt. I do like the Biltwell Gringo, but I have seen both positive and negative reviews. I do like the vintage look, but also don't want it to be purely for looks. They are all DOT certified, but from reading, that may not apply to the lower section in front of the jaw. Any other recommendations?

Remember this is your face and brain you are protecting, so don't be a cheapskate.  Try on several helmets before you buy, and don't buy based solely on looks.  Different people have different shaped heads.  That's one of the reasons why Arai has two different helmet shapes.  Bullitt helmets look cool, but have a frequent criticism of wind noise.

I have a couple of open face helmets but I only wear them for parade rides like the DGR.  I would recommend a quality-made, full-face helmet.

I am not sure my brain is worth protecting haha. I will have to find a local shop to try on. I was curious about the modular helmets as well, so will have to try one of those on. You never know when I want to sip on a drink.   ;D

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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #81 on: June 02, 2017, 08:31:51 AM »
Another segue, but I need to sign up for the basic rider educational course asap. They provide the bike, but it requires me to get a helmet much sooner than my own bike is complete. Everyone I know seems to prefer the look of the open face helmet paired with a shield, or sunglasses, but as I am the one who will break my jaw, I was leaning towards the Bell Bullitt. I do like the Biltwell Gringo, but I have seen both positive and negative reviews. I do like the vintage look, but also don't want it to be purely for looks. They are all DOT certified, but from reading, that may not apply to the lower section in front of the jaw. Any other recommendations?

Remember this is your face and brain you are protecting, so don't be a cheapskate.  Try on several helmets before you buy, and don't buy based solely on looks.  Different people have different shaped heads.  That's one of the reasons why Arai has two different helmet shapes.  Bullitt helmets look cool, but have a frequent criticism of wind noise.

I have a couple of open face helmets but I only wear them for parade rides like the DGR.  I would recommend a quality-made, full-face helmet.

I am not sure my brain is worth protecting haha. I will have to find a local shop to try on. I was curious about the modular helmets as well, so will have to try one of those on. You never know when I want to sip on a drink.   ;D

Modular helmets are a compromise.  Unless you buy a Schuberth and spend a load, you will have more wind noise coming through the seams AND the helmet will simply not be as strong as a single piece helmet.  I bought a Bell modular to try it out and it whistles at higher speed.
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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #82 on: June 02, 2017, 01:11:57 PM »
Shoei makes a very nice modular that is fillly DOT approved, light AND quiet (or so my wife says). Better quality helmets are lighter, quieter, and bent better. This produced less strain and more comfort for the rider. All very important things.

While $500-$800 seems like a lot of money, it is far, far cheaper than the least expensive trip to the ER.

And to answer your earlier question; neither  ;)
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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #83 on: June 06, 2017, 05:45:14 AM »
I have been looking, but have not made it into a store to try on yet. The dog had a wellness check this week, and is completely healthy so I only had to sell my left arm. Anyways, I soaked the carbs a bit last night, while adjusting the rear brake pedal. I also lifted the front a bit to allow more suspension travel, also thinking the rake was skewed due to the longer shocks. My kickstand may need to be lengthened, but the bike does feel solid on it. It just has a great lean to it, maybe like a thug.

I got an automatic punch after reading some people used them with success to press the float pins from the towers in the carbs. I gave it a few tries yesterday but need to get them in a vice so I can get better pressure. Being in IT, i always have cans of aerosol dusters laying around, which I have used previously to cool when holding upside down. I wonder if I can use it on the steel pin, as the tower i believe is aluminum, and then use the punch. I will have to try on Wednesday.

The upholsterer that told me the seat should be done by mid-week. I hope so as the days keep being pushed back.

I probably looked like an idiot, but I rolled it around my parking lot down a slight incline last night, using the rear brake. This was my first time being able to use any of the controls. Baby steps! Thanks again for all of the invaluable help.

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« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2017, 02:08:02 PM »
After soaking the carbs, I was able to get the float pins out. However, one was tough to pull the rest of the way so I gouged it with pliers. I'll have to figure out the part number and pray that they still sell them, so I dont have to buy the whole float kit. I also broke off one of the nuts in the link arm.  :-[ I had sprayed the rusty bolt liberally with wd prior to dissasembling that bolt. I was unlucky using my extractors, so just drilled it out, at the wrong angle. Maybe it was the few beers keeping me cool. Oh well, more parts to order. At least they are completely disassembled and sorted. Now more cleaning and reassembly.






The upholsterer keeps pushing back day after day. I am told early this week for the seat to be complete. In the meantime, I will have to find out if I can purchase a link arm and a float pin. With luck, I will have the other three carbs complete this week.

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« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2017, 02:14:36 PM »
Better to grab a used set of carbs and cannibalize them, or replace the parts, or the carb body from your set that is now buggered.
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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #86 on: June 11, 2017, 02:38:46 PM »
Better to grab a used set of carbs and cannibalize them, or replace the parts, or the carb body from your set that is now buggered.

Ordered a replacement arm.

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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2017, 05:19:30 AM »
Yesterday evening I cleaned the garage and got back to the carbs. I have two rebuilt, with the exception of adjusting the float bowl height. One float moves very freely, and the other is more tight, and stays in place when adjusted, so I have to pull the pin out and check it again. It was not nearly as painful as I thought, almost too easy. I of course have many many photos and documents for reference. The replacement link arm is on the way, and I need to source a pin still, but with luck, the carbs will be done by the weekend. I will polish the bowls and rack while I am waiting for the other parts.

On an unrelated note, my girlfriend is going to be in Italy for two and a half weeks with various family, which means I have a ton of free time starting this weekend. I will make more progress at that point.



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« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2017, 06:32:19 AM »
You should be able to carefully clean up the float pivot with some fine sand paper or emery cloth.
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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #89 on: June 14, 2017, 06:23:15 AM »
You should be able to carefully clean up the float pivot with some fine sand paper or emery cloth.

It looked to have the slightest bend in it, so i used my vice while turning it frequently to straighten it out. I then cleaned it a bit more with sandpaper and now it moves easily. I started polishing more, and quickly rememembered that I really want a bench unit rather than using my drill. I wonder if it is worth the expense. I don't plan on getting a mirror finish, only using a black rouge to make it look better before assembly. I rather get the bike finished and be able to ride it, and polish after ensuring it doesn't leak everywhere and heck, even runs.


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« Reply #90 on: June 14, 2017, 07:14:55 AM »
Since the pin is inside the carbs I would just clean it up enough that it will slide into the holes on the towers. It doesn't need to be shiny.
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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #91 on: June 14, 2017, 08:41:12 AM »
Since the pin is inside the carbs I would just clean it up enough that it will slide into the holes on the towers. It doesn't need to be shiny.

LMAO, I am not polishing the internals of the carbs. I should have clarified. I sanded the pin and reinstalled. I was talking about polishing the bowls which I had added a photo of. I was thinking of polishing the rack as well, and still have to finish up a few other parts. The bike is definitely not going to be nice enough for polished internals.  ;D

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« Reply #92 on: June 14, 2017, 09:22:56 AM »
LOL. I'm at work and can't see pictures that are posted from links to the various hosting sights like Photobucket. I only see the ones directly uploaded to the site. So I only saw an X not the shiny bowl.
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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2017, 02:19:41 PM »
I rather get the bike finished and be able to ride it, and polish after ensuring it doesn't leak everywhere and heck, even runs.

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« Reply #94 on: June 15, 2017, 05:29:51 AM »
I made a template to adjust the float level and buttoned up three of the four carbs. Once I get them all on the rack, I will try my hand at this bench syncing magic. I am glad I tackled this myself because seeing everything move gives me a good idea on how they work, which will hopefully help in future troubleshooting. I haven't harassed the upholsterer in a couple days, but will call tomorrow again. They are not show worthy, but I am proud of how they turned out so far, compared to what they had looked like.



I noticed another mistake when I went to bolt on the brake caliper. I need to look back at photos and read a bit, but it seems that I had installed the disc backwards so that it is sitting darn near the spokes. There is no way in hell the caliper would fit. Guess the front wheel is coming back off.

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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #95 on: June 19, 2017, 05:44:09 AM »
Well i got the front brakes all put together, minus pulling the clip from the rusted fender. I poked a hole in it over the weekend when looking it over.




Now i realize why people keep the airbox. I spent a lot of time reading about what to do with the breather hose. I woudl rathersplit it and route it to the filters rather than just hang a tube with a breather filter. Live and learn, and now is the time all you experts say "I told you so"...  ::)



I thought maybe I could run something similar to the Cognito motors box rather than pods, to retain the open look, while routing the line to it before the carbs:





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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder
« Reply #96 on: June 26, 2017, 05:48:44 PM »
Seat is done. Just mounted it to see how it looks for now.










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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder - Seat fitting
« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2017, 05:23:39 AM »
Well looks like I will be spending the weekend moving my photos to another hosting site. I may just host my own at this point. Photobucket wants $6 monthly, which is not much, but eventually I would just hit their next limit. In the meantime, I apologize for the lack of photos now. I will get it fixed over the weekend.

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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder - Seat fitting
« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2017, 07:15:44 AM »
Well looks like I will be spending the weekend moving my photos to another hosting site. I may just host my own at this point. Photobucket wants $6 monthly, which is not much, but eventually I would just hit their next limit. In the meantime, I apologize for the lack of photos now. I will get it fixed over the weekend.

I think everyone has the same issue.  Photobucket can suck it.
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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

Offline mscuiletti

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Re: 1976 CB550 K2 First time builder - Seat fitting
« Reply #99 on: June 30, 2017, 08:36:42 AM »
I think everyone has the same issue.  Photobucket can suck it.

But then they would charge you afterwards...  ;D