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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2016, 08:10:58 PM »
Terry, is that your new K0?!!.
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2016, 09:07:04 PM »
Terry, ever thought of giving that bad boy some gears?
With a 38-14 five speed gear cluster, I can motor up steep hills and overtake cars in school zones (and also in 60kph zones whenever I'm going downhill!)  :)
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2016, 12:54:50 AM »
G'Day Jon, yes mate, it definitely needs gears. I've seen that setup and intend to (when I get time) build another layshaft setup so I can use the gears, or perhaps better still, install an actual gearbox underneath, as I think the twin engines would destroy the bicycle's gears in short order. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2016, 03:35:44 AM »
I wonder... when cruising speed is reached, can you shut off one engine to improve econmy?
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2016, 03:42:31 AM »
I wonder... when cruising speed is reached, can you shut off one engine to improve econmy?

I think the economy's pretty good anyway Delta, but yep, the "primary" engine has a centrifugal clutch and the "secondary" engine has a cable clutch, and they both have individual kill switches, so you can kill either engine, "on the fly". ;D
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2016, 05:09:28 AM »
G'Day Jon, yes mate, it definitely needs gears. I've seen that setup and intend to (when I get time) build another layshaft setup so I can use the gears, or perhaps better still, install an actual gearbox underneath, as I think the twin engines would destroy the bicycle's gears in short order. Cheers, Terry. ;D
Maybe you could clutch the engines and switch gears? Kind of like people do with lawn mowers. Remove the brake and use the clutch/stop pedal as a clutch only. Idk terry, those stock gears might hold up if you don't* beat it up too bad.
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2016, 06:00:38 PM »
As it is, it's not slow, with a top speed of around 45 MPH. I have thought of just installing a smaller rear sprocket and calling it done, but if I can find a small gearbox that won't add a lot more weight, I just might......... ;D 
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2016, 09:14:55 AM »
It appears to be a copy of or the same unit that is being sold by Charlie's Place, minus the gold anodizing.


A couple of the guys over there have installed them and they work.
They said they would report back with any issues.

The price point is certainly attractive.

they might work out of the box but for how long and where will you be when they do quit working? :)

I just don't trust cheap chinese junk especially electronics.
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2016, 09:22:28 AM »
Aren't most all electronic s made in china

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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2016, 09:27:38 AM »
Aren't most all electronic s made in china

Sadly, yes.
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2016, 11:55:08 AM »
Aren't most all electronic s made in china

Sadly, yes.

The only possible difference between this and the other hall effect systems is the rotor.  You could loose there.  I'd like to know how the pickups are set.

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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2016, 01:03:32 PM »
Aren't most all electronic s made in china

Sadly, yes.


Even my cbr600rr's main harness has a "made in China" label affixed. At least made to Honda's specifications(?) As for product quality,
can't say for sure, but I'd wonderabout the lifespan of those pickups in a hot environment.

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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2016, 04:09:55 PM »
Aren't most all electronic s made in china

Sadly, yes.


Even my cbr600rr's main harness has a "made in China" label affixed. At least made to Honda's specifications(?) As for product quality,
can't say for sure, but I'd wonderabout the lifespan of those pickups in a hot environment.

I've purchased genuine Honda parts that were labeled "Made in China".
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2016, 06:41:05 PM »
It's funny that we don't trust cheap Chinese crap, one of the major hurdles the Japanese had in the 1960's was convincing the rest of the world that their products weren't "Jap Junk".

A lot of stuff from Japan back then was junk, my father told me about a new Toyota his company bought, he had the task of collecting it from Melbourne and driving the 200 miles back home, in which time it burned all of the oil in the sump, not to mention the main and big end bearings. It went straight back to Toyota, and a refund was issued.

As time went by Japanese products got better, and now of course, are world class. I think the Chinese are already way past the "Cheap Crap" stage, and are constantly refining their products, and already are manufacturing for the world's big automotive players.

Sadly for the rest of the world, China has become the world's manufacturing hub, we've exported our manufacturing industry, but we can't export our factory workers, so we're going to have generations of unemployed, unless we can think of something to do with millions of would be factory workers, who, through no fault of their own, don't have factories to work in. Cheers, Terry. ;D   
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2016, 03:01:51 AM »
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nor have you tried it, and your opinion appears to be contrary to visual evidence that the maker of this ignition put in their own ad. 

Not really, I buy lots of stuff from China for motorcycles and other hobbies plus have saved a bundle. Been happy with the performance too.  Items I have experience  but not limited to include: electronics, plastics, engines aluminum brake parts, oil system bits, exhaust systems etc.

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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2016, 03:18:39 AM »

As time went by Japanese products got better, and now of course, are world class. I think the Chinese are already way past the "Cheap Crap" stage, and are constantly refining their products, and already are manufacturing for the world's big automotive players.


I buy tooling from China, not bad quality at all

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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2016, 03:55:30 AM »

As time went by Japanese products got better, and now of course, are world class. I think the Chinese are already way past the "Cheap Crap" stage, and are constantly refining their products, and already are manufacturing for the world's big automotive players.


I buy tooling from China, not bad quality at all

Yeah mate, I've had a big Chinese lathe for the last 20 years, and while it's pretty rudimentary, it's never given me any trouble. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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So I said, "Hey mate, you haven't got any bike boots you don't need, do you?"

"Crazy is a very misunderstood term, it's a fine line that some of us can lean over and still keep our balance" (thanks RB550Four)

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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2016, 05:56:41 AM »
It's funny that we don't trust cheap Chinese crap, one of the major hurdles the Japanese had in the 1960's was convincing the rest of the world that their products weren't "Jap Junk".

A lot of stuff from Japan back then was junk, my father told me about a new Toyota his company bought, he had the task of collecting it from Melbourne and driving the 200 miles back home, in which time it burned all of the oil in the sump, not to mention the main and big end bearings. It went straight back to Toyota, and a refund was issued.

As time went by Japanese products got better, and now of course, are world class. I think the Chinese are already way past the "Cheap Crap" stage, and are constantly refining their products, and already are manufacturing for the world's big automotive players.

Sadly for the rest of the world, China has become the world's manufacturing hub, we've exported our manufacturing industry, but we can't export our factory workers, so we're going to have generations of unemployed, unless we can think of something to do with millions of would be factory workers, who, through no fault of their own, don't have factories to work in. Cheers, Terry. ;D   

Yeah well the Chineese are now being replaced by robots.  Man vs machine is here.

http://fortune.com/2016/05/26/foxconn-factory-robot-workers/

That is just the start another report said millions of Chineese factory workers are going to be replaced by robots.  What do we do with all the unnecessary people? 

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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2016, 06:39:57 AM »
There is a company that produce industrial robots in China, Sweden and USA! Foxconn sites have plenty of people, 60.000 is just a small part of them. Industrial Robots take jobs not healthy for humans.
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2016, 06:43:47 AM »
There is a company that produce industrial robots in China, Sweden and USA! Foxconn sites have plenty of people, 60.000 is just a small part of them. Industrial Robots take jobs not healthy for humans.

What about pharmacist?  That is a $80k+ plus job.


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« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2016, 09:30:03 AM »
We still have to be there Chewy since we are limited to supervising only 3 to 4 techs per each Pharmacist. It's a safety and $$ issue. More Pharmacists these days don't prepare the prescriptions like the robot does but rather oversee the input and the preparation, evaluates the proper use, works with the patient and the prescriber and stands up 8 - 12 hours a day and put up with a lot of BS and insurance crap while trying to prevent mistakes and deaths. I didn't watch the whole video but did it mention the cost of these robots? $$ cha ching. Most places will not invest in these and expect the staff to crank it out and shut the fuk up. I've worked with a few different types. Pretty cool and usually welcomed. Once the volume gets to where the single Pharmacist and legally limited support staff of 3 to 4 techs can not safely keep up with the volume this is a good investment vs paying WELL OVER $80,000 a year for a second pharmacist plus more support staff. I regularly fill 200 - 300 scripts in a 9 hour shift and I do the actual filling too along with all the other stuff but rarely full time anymore. 1 script every 2.5 minutes or so for 9 hours with no breaks or sitting. I have to sneak out to take a leak. Legally have to be there when the doors are open. Not much longer though. Retirement is around the corner ☺ I've survived 35 years of the beat down and seen many changes.
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #46 on: June 25, 2016, 12:05:53 PM »
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nor have you tried it, and your opinion appears to be contrary to visual evidence that the maker of this ignition put in their own ad. 

Not really, I buy lots of stuff from China for motorcycles and other hobbies plus have saved a bundle. Been happy with the performance too.  Items I have experience  but not limited to include: electronics, plastics, engines aluminum brake parts, oil system bits, exhaust systems etc.

rt
here's the deal Mr. Rotor-logic, last response to you...I could care less whether it is made in U.S.A., China, or North Korea, the dip#$%*s are advertising their product with a picture that is blatantly and obviously assembled WRONG.  If you want to spend $75 on that than you are as big a dip#$%* as they are.
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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2016, 12:32:41 PM »
Happy seanbarney41? Has decals too, price should double like the competition now LOL  ;D


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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2017, 07:33:52 AM »
Tried the Tytronic unit. It has two magnets with opposite polarity. This feature decides which sensor will fire at what time as both sensors are mounted 180 degrees apart. The Charlie's Place unit employs one magnet in the rotor so that suggests it is different. I suspect this may be tied into dwell duration as it makes claim to this. It works and was easy to install being another option for our bikes. The magnets are staked to the rotor. The Tytronics  rotor was snug on the advancer when I tightened the 6mm nut so I sanded the height a thou or so for smooth operation. Set it up statically and it ran fine but the strobe was needed to exact it. This is the latest version BTW.


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Re: RE: Tytronic Electric ignition $75 from China
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2017, 01:52:01 PM »
Tried the Tytronic unit. It has two magnets with opposite polarity. This feature decides which sensor will fire at what time as both sensors are mounted 180 degrees apart. The Charlie's Place unit employs one magnet in the rotor so that suggests it is different. I suspect this may be tied into dwell duration as it makes claim to this. It works and was easy to install being another option for our bikes. The magnets are staked to the rotor. The Tytronics  rotor was snug on the advancer when I tightened the 6mm nut so I sanded the height a thou or so for smooth operation. Set it up statically and it ran fine but the strobe was needed to exact it. This is the latest version BTW.



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