Topic: My Petcock is not a well behaved Pet.

[DaveBarbier]

Jag's a good guy

Going to be at MidO?
First beer at the derby is on me!

I knew it!

[jaguar]

I try.

[JWilde]

I try.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!

I got the star tron today. Ran the tank empty, put it in and filled up with 89. Took it on a few high speed runs (I did 80mph for about 20 min about 5 times) man this thing WORKS!

Im not exaggerating! The engine purs like a kitten! I didnt realize they sold it at my local autozone, but I did a search and there it was. Picked it up today and got to work!

[BomberMann650]

Sure it's not a placebo effect there J?

[JWilde]

What are the chances that, aside from the pool of fuel (not a lot) when this happened, that it got into the crankcase? Are the chances high or low?

Depends on where it leaked from. That's why it's good to try and find out. If it was from the carbs, the overflow should have made it so it leaked from the bottom of the carbs and not gotten into the crank case. If it leaked out the carb mouth then the overflow is clogged and it's possible it got into the crankcase too. You can check oil level and smell it but if it's not a lot then you won't be able to tell.

Obviously if it leaked from the petcock it would just run onto the engine and find its way to the floor.

Because it happened after the bike was sitting for a number of days, I'm thinking that you have a constant but slow leak out the overflow tube. Slow enough where it evaporates before it forms a puddle. After a while it would run the bowl dry and when you turn the fuel on again the float sticks down (as is the case often with dry float bowls) and fuel runs out.

Based on my best recollection it leaked from the BOTTOM of the carbs (I remember it leaking over the top of the alternator cover just below the carbs).  So youre saying if it leaked from the area where I saw (which later dripped down to the floor) then it DIDNT get in the crankcase?

For future reference.  The cover on top of the lower case is a starter motor cover.
There are two rubber seals in that area.  One gaskets the cover itself, and there is an o-ring where the starter gear slides into the case.

Likelihood of gas getting into case from spilling onto that - zero.

Jwilde, you may want to read the cb350f manual as a bedtime story to your new baby.  Mazeltov btw

Thanks on the congrats. I have the manual. Just so busy and ADHD. I need to read it. Yup!

[JWilde]

Sure it's not a placebo effect there J?

Ive dealt with enough old cars and carbs (I have a few old cars and am getting rid of one soon - all 1960's) I can tell when a "thing" is running better. Def not placebo because Im skeptic to begin with.

[BomberMann650]

Sure it's not a placebo effect there J?

Ive dealt with enough old cars and carbs (I have a few old cars and am getting rid of one soon - all 1960's) I can tell when a "thing" is running better. Def not placebo because Im skeptic to begin with.

I don't know all the details on the star tron stuff, but I never would've guessed it a "regular use performance enhancer" product.

Perhaps I negligently lumped it in with other fuel stabilizers ie seafoam stabil

[jaguar]

Almost no way the Stanton make the bike run better.
Not what it does, nor what I was suggesting it for.

Just a good product for keeping the ethanol fuel from separating after sitting.

[JWilde]

Almost no way the Stanton make the bike run better.
Not what it does, nor what I was suggesting it for.

Just a good product for keeping the ethanol fuel from separating after sitting.

Thats your opinion and youre entitled to it. I *SAID* it makes it run better and theres nothing more to discuss. Youre now doing exactly what ppl did do you in this post, seeking to speak over one's experience.  Just bypass my posts and keep your arguments with others to PM. Dont need that garbage here.

[evanphi]

[DaveBarbier]

Almost no way the Stanton make the bike run better.
Not what it does, nor what I was suggesting it for.

Just a good product for keeping the ethanol fuel from separating after sitting.

Thats your opinion and youre entitled to it. I *SAID* it makes it run better and theres nothing more to discuss. Youre now doing exactly what ppl did do you in this post, seeking to speak over one's experience.  Just bypass my posts and keep your arguments with others to PM. Dont need that garbage here.

If you're looking for people not to challenge an incorrect assessment then you're in the wrong place. These fuel stabilizers will not make it "purr like a kitten". That's purely placebo or something else you did.

We don't care if you SAY something. If it's wrong, it's our duty here on the forum to make it be known it so in the future, others won't think this is true.

Harisuluv's, Jag's and my argument is the way it works here. Voices heard on both sides. Future people can read through and make their own mind up. If you don't like it, I suggest you get a blog and disable comments or move to North Korea.

Edit: I archived this entire thread incase JWilde deletes it. Something I might do from here on out with his posts I contribute to.

[jaguar]

Almost no way the Stanton make the bike run better.
Not what it does, nor what I was suggesting it for.

Just a good product for keeping the ethanol fuel from separating after sitting.

Thats your opinion and youre entitled to it. I *SAID* it makes it run better and theres nothing more to discuss. Youre now doing exactly what ppl did do you in this post, seeking to speak over one's experience.  Just bypass my posts and keep your arguments with others to PM. Dont need that garbage here.

You really are a clown.
It is not my opinion, it is a fact.

Would you not challenge me, or anyone that posted saying that after putting MMO in their fuel the bike now runs 9s?  or makes 200hp?
Clearly that couldn't actually happen in the real world.

I know that you are a delicate flower, but do not confuse people with experience and knowledge having a healthy debate with people calling out obvious BS.

What is the over/under on the PO tucking tail and deleting this thread?

[JWilde]

Almost no way the Stanton make the bike run better.
Not what it does, nor what I was suggesting it for.

Just a good product for keeping the ethanol fuel from separating after sitting.

Thats your opinion and youre entitled to it. I *SAID* it makes it run better and theres nothing more to discuss. Youre now doing exactly what ppl did do you in this post, seeking to speak over one's experience.  Just bypass my posts and keep your arguments with others to PM. Dont need that garbage here.

If you're looking for people not to challenge an incorrect assessment then you're in the wrong place. These fuel stabilizers will not make it "purr like a kitten". That's purely placebo or something else you did.

We don't care if you SAY something. If it's wrong, it's our duty here on the forum to make it be known it so in the future, others won't think this is true.

Harisuluv's, Jag's and my argument is the way it works here. Voices heard on both sides. Future people can read through and make their own mind up. If you don't like it, I suggest you get a blog and disable comments or move to North Korea.

Edit: I archived this entire thread incase JWilde deletes it. Something I might do from here on out with his posts I contribute to.

There are PLENTY of online accounts of how Star Tron improves engine performance.

FYI I wont be deleting posts as Ive been asked not to, so please ladies, stop whining and go get new pads if youre uncomfortable.  Ive never seen men act more like little girls.

And, Im not about to sit here and argue like a nerd about whether it did or didnt improve my engine performance. I *SAID* it did and thats all there is to it. No further debate required OR desired.

We are talking about BIKES, not world peace, open heart surgery or curing cancer. Its not that deep....and least to me. I ride, I enjoy it, I try and fix or get fixed what is broken, and thats it. Ive seen ppl stick their chests out in pride over bikes and bike knowledge, and I dont give a #$%* about that. My self worth doesnt come from that.

[540nova]

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[JWilde]

This forum is fun!


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Listen, this is the VERY REASON why I deleted posts. NO ONE should enjoy or thrive on conflict and its sad that ppl do. There is NOTHING FUN about arguing, and I deleted posts to PREVENT that from continuing. What the hell is wrong with our society? Do we want our kids to feed on and enjoy this bull #$%*? I dont. Anyone who enjoys that #$%* is lacking in their life. No happy person would enjoy seeing ppl bicker.

[DaveBarbier]

I try.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!

I got the star tron today. Ran the tank empty, put it in and filled up with 89. Took it on a few high speed runs (I did 80mph for about 20 min about 5 times) man this thing WORKS!

Im not exaggerating! The engine purs like a kitten! I didnt realize they sold it at my local autozone, but I did a search and there it was. Picked it up today and got to work!

Star Tron is a fuel additive designed to stabilize fuel, and not much more. While it may demonstrate a perceived improvement in how your engine ran once added, that is wholly impacted upon by the fact you've been adding liberal doses of Marvel Mystery Oil to your fuel (by your own claims and posts). Since it is very unlikely that you've added MMO is a precise formulation, you may well have been over-dosing your gas and now, having removed it, your fuel is actually burning more normally.

To claim "your experience" of how well this bike runs is purely anecdotal and quite subjective. Given this is your first motorcycle (your own words) and you've owned this bike for about 3 months, you have no basis for a comparison of how well or poorly your bike runs when in stock form (you are running pods, and have never had the bike dyno tuned for a perfected A/F mixture).

You also don't take into account atmospheric changes on the effect of your carbs for any change in performance.So your assumption that Star Tron is a genie in a bottle is misconstrued.

[JWilde]

I try.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!

I got the star tron today. Ran the tank empty, put it in and filled up with 89. Took it on a few high speed runs (I did 80mph for about 20 min about 5 times) man this thing WORKS!

Im not exaggerating! The engine purs like a kitten! I didnt realize they sold it at my local autozone, but I did a search and there it was. Picked it up today and got to work!

Star Tron is a fuel additive designed to stabilize fuel, and not much more. While it may demonstrate a perceived improvement in how your engine ran once added, that is wholly impacted upon by the fact you've been adding liberal doses of Marvel Mystery Oil to your fuel (by your own claims and posts). Since it is very unlikely that you've added MMO is a precise formulation, you may well have been over-dosing your gas and now, having removed it, your fuel is actually burning more normally.

To claim "your experience" of how well this bike runs is purely anecdotal and quite subjective. Given this is your first motorcycle (your own words) and you've owned this bike for about 3 months, you have no basis for a comparison of how well or poorly your bike runs when in stock form (you are running pods, and have never had the bike dyno tuned for a perfected A/F mixture).

You also don't take into account atmospheric changes on the effect of your carbs for any change in performance.So your assumption that Star Tron is a genie in a bottle is misconstrued.

Dont really care that much. Like I said it worked and I wont say it again. If you want to debate youll have yourself to debate with.

[flybox1]

My butt dyno is 100% correct 60% of the time.

[DaveBarbier]

I try.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!

I got the star tron today. Ran the tank empty, put it in and filled up with 89. Took it on a few high speed runs (I did 80mph for about 20 min about 5 times) man this thing WORKS!

Im not exaggerating! The engine purs like a kitten! I didnt realize they sold it at my local autozone, but I did a search and there it was. Picked it up today and got to work!

Star Tron is a fuel additive designed to stabilize fuel, and not much more. While it may demonstrate a perceived improvement in how your engine ran once added, that is wholly impacted upon by the fact you've been adding liberal doses of Marvel Mystery Oil to your fuel (by your own claims and posts). Since it is very unlikely that you've added MMO is a precise formulation, you may well have been over-dosing your gas and now, having removed it, your fuel is actually burning more normally.

To claim "your experience" of how well this bike runs is purely anecdotal and quite subjective. Given this is your first motorcycle (your own words) and you've owned this bike for about 3 months, you have no basis for a comparison of how well or poorly your bike runs when in stock form (you are running pods, and have never had the bike dyno tuned for a perfected A/F mixture).

You also don't take into account atmospheric changes on the effect of your carbs for any change in performance.So your assumption that Star Tron is a genie in a bottle is misconstrued.

Dont really care that much. Like I said it worked and I wont say it again. If you want to debate youll have yourself to debate with.

If by 'debate' you just mean us telling you the right information and you complaining about it, then good, glad we're in agreement. Any other myths you want dispelled just let me know.

[JWilde]

I try.

Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you!

I got the star tron today. Ran the tank empty, put it in and filled up with 89. Took it on a few high speed runs (I did 80mph for about 20 min about 5 times) man this thing WORKS!

Im not exaggerating! The engine purs like a kitten! I didnt realize they sold it at my local autozone, but I did a search and there it was. Picked it up today and got to work!

Star Tron is a fuel additive designed to stabilize fuel, and not much more. While it may demonstrate a perceived improvement in how your engine ran once added, that is wholly impacted upon by the fact you've been adding liberal doses of Marvel Mystery Oil to your fuel (by your own claims and posts). Since it is very unlikely that you've added MMO is a precise formulation, you may well have been over-dosing your gas and now, having removed it, your fuel is actually burning more normally.

To claim "your experience" of how well this bike runs is purely anecdotal and quite subjective. Given this is your first motorcycle (your own words) and you've owned this bike for about 3 months, you have no basis for a comparison of how well or poorly your bike runs when in stock form (you are running pods, and have never had the bike dyno tuned for a perfected A/F mixture).

You also don't take into account atmospheric changes on the effect of your carbs for any change in performance.So your assumption that Star Tron is a genie in a bottle is misconstrued.

Dont really care that much. Like I said it worked and I wont say it again. If you want to debate youll have yourself to debate with.

If by 'debate' you just mean us telling you the right information and you complaining about it, then good, glad we're in agreement. Any other myths you want dispelled just let me know.

cool

[754]

So if you ran it at 80 for 20 minutes,  that would get you at least. 25 miles away....
So if you living one of the boroughs...Can you just get on the nearest freeway and ride like that?

[540nova]

I thought this character was blocked from the forum, again.


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[DWS]

Does anyone know where to get a petcock that wont drip after the first 6 months of buying it? and does not cost 111.30 on ebay.
for the 78CB750F3 super-sport, this issue is really driving me nuts, i bought a after market one and leaks out of every possible place it can from tank down.
This is really getting into my riding.
And that does not restrict the fuel flow that seems to be a problem with the aftermarket ones also.

[754]

Watch ebay for a used PINGEL and adaptor. End of problems.
 It will cost a good chunk,  but END your problems...

[BomberMann650]

Oh...my...god...what...happened...here?