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Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« on: June 22, 2016, 11:11:44 AM »
due to pollution issues? wtf?  Older cars, too.
Read it on revzilla.com. 
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2016, 11:32:19 AM »
Here it is:

Beginning July 1, Paris will begin phasing in new vehicle restrictions to deal with the city's air pollution problem. Cars built before 1997 and motorcycles from before 2000 will be banned.


http://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/paris-bans-older-motorcycles
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2016, 11:49:32 AM »
I was in Paris about two months ago.  More scooters than motorcycles, and hardly ANY vintage bikes about.

My French friends told me that the new ban will restrict older vehicles to certain non-peak hours (evenings and weekends).  This sort of stuff would never fly here.  Could you even imagine it happening in Colorado or Texas!?
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2016, 02:43:29 PM »
they tried to ban all vehicles over 7 years old from all city centres a few years ago but changed there mind at the last minute
the french do have quite a few laws which they don't police , you are supposed to have three large reflective stickers on your helmet but nobody does .
normally bikes are exempt from these laws ,  its a worry that this time they are not . these ideas have a habit of spreading in europe would be a right pain if it
came here ..... we vote to either stay or leave the european union tomorrow so it might not matter !

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2016, 02:46:07 PM »
  This sort of stuff would never fly here.  Could you even imagine it happening in Colorado or Texas!?

Sure about that? Look at the last 7 years in this Country.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2016, 03:26:55 PM »
lol..  unbelievable.
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2016, 04:43:04 PM »
they tried to ban all vehicles over 7 years old from all city centres a few years ago but changed there mind at the last minute
the french do have quite a few laws which they don't police , you are supposed to have three large reflective stickers on your helmet but nobody does .
normally bikes are exempt from these laws ,  its a worry that this time they are not . these ideas have a habit of spreading in europe would be a right pain if it
came here ..... we vote to either stay or leave the european union tomorrow so it might not matter !

That's right.  The BREXIT vote. 
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2016, 08:02:43 PM »
Sounds like some class-warfare bullsh!t to me.  If you cant afford a vehicle so many years old or newer you're now a criminal.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2016, 01:13:24 AM »
Sounds like some class-warfare bullsh!t to me.  If you cant afford a vehicle so many years old or newer you're now a criminal.

And I know the smell of bull#$%*, i mean, look at my avatar.

Oh please do believe it. We have a lot of idiotic laws here, and the capacity to make lots more.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2016, 03:42:11 AM »
oh come on Kev, how can you be so negative?  8)  just kidding.

If they ban older bikes/cars in Paris, would this include antiques? (like all my bikes?)
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2016, 05:57:22 AM »
Just a little precision. The ban is on Bikes registered before June 2000, and it does not apply at weekends.

How they will enforce it, I have no idea. French registration plates give no indication as to the date of registration. If would have to be based on stop and check. The coppers here really have a lot more to be doing with their time.

The big risk is that some nitwit in Brussels will hear about this and think it a good idea.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2016, 07:21:26 AM »


And I know the smell of bull#$%*, i mean, look at my avatar.

Now that's hilarious!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2016, 08:00:33 AM »
The great illussion that eden on earth happens right after the next regulation or law.

Just a little precision. The ban is on Bikes registered before June 2000, and it does not apply at weekends.

How they will enforce it, I have no idea. French registration plates give no indication as to the date of registration. If would have to be based on stop and check. The coppers here really have a lot more to be doing with their time.

The big risk is that some nitwit in Brussels will hear about this and think it a good idea.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2016, 09:08:48 AM »
Just a little precision. The ban is on Bikes registered before June 2000, and it does not apply at weekends.

How they will enforce it, I have no idea. French registration plates give no indication as to the date of registration. If would have to be based on stop and check. The coppers here really have a lot more to be doing with their time.

The big risk is that some nitwit in Brussels will hear about this and think it a good idea.

Kev

I would imagine they could use plate numbers as an indication of date of registration.
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016, 09:22:43 AM »
Singapore does the same thing, but instead of an outright ban the registration fees for cars over 5 years old increases significantly, then again in another 5 years. It's created a grey market for car sales to Indonesia and Malaysia through Batam and across the bridge. Doubt if it'd do the same in Paris.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2016, 09:38:55 AM »
Just a little precision. The ban is on Bikes registered before June 2000, and it does not apply at weekends.

How they will enforce it, I have no idea. French registration plates give no indication as to the date of registration. If would have to be based on stop and check. The coppers here really have a lot more to be doing with their time.

The big risk is that some nitwit in Brussels will hear about this and think it a good idea.

Kev

I would imagine they could use plate numbers as an indication of date of registration.

No, the plate would have to be checked on the police computer. For a long while in France, each time a vehicle was sold outside of the department it was registered in, a new licence plate had to get issued. For a fee of course. The new plate would have no visible reference to the date of original registration.

In UK and Ireland you can tell at a glance how old a vehicle is from it's plate.

This ban is not something thought up by the government, the office of the mayor of Paris dreamed this up.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2016, 11:11:44 AM »
that is reassuring , if it is just one power crazed mayor it wont spread to more french cities ..... and bugger up my holidays 

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2016, 11:58:06 AM »
that is reassuring , if it is just one power crazed mayor it wont spread to more french cities ..... and bugger up my holidays

Whatever happened to "majority rule"

And when did the majority become such a small contingent?

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2016, 10:58:07 PM »
they tried to ban all vehicles over 7 years old from all city centres a few years ago but changed there mind at the last minute
the french do have quite a few laws which they don't police , you are supposed to have three large reflective stickers on your helmet but nobody does .
normally bikes are exempt from these laws ,  its a worry that this time they are not . these ideas have a habit of spreading in europe would be a right pain if it
came here ..... we vote to either stay or leave the european union tomorrow so it might not matter !

Looks like you're free of all the EU nonsense now Simon. You all get to make your own laws again !!!

Spare a thought for us still behind the wire.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2016, 04:40:36 AM »
they tried to ban all vehicles over 7 years old from all city centres a few years ago but changed there mind at the last minute
the french do have quite a few laws which they don't police , you are supposed to have three large reflective stickers on your helmet but nobody does .
normally bikes are exempt from these laws ,  its a worry that this time they are not . these ideas have a habit of spreading in europe would be a right pain if it
came here ..... we vote to either stay or leave the european union tomorrow so it might not matter !

Looks like you're free of all the EU nonsense now Simon. You all get to make your own laws again !!!

Spare a thought for us still behind the wire.

Kev

PS, I believe there are signs reading "UK thataway" being prepared for erection in Calais.

yeah, it made my day.  Now I wish EU leaders realized that it is their fault, UK is leaving, but I think thats too much to ask of Merkel.
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2016, 06:30:50 AM »
One more reason to avoid that socialist hellhole. Between government forcing many (most?) of the well off folks to leave after massive theft, and importing terrorists like it's a fire sale, well... I guess they need to target the poor and middle class next, when they start running out of rich folks.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2016, 02:34:16 PM »
oh paris isn't so bad always quite liked it

kev its ok from today the dole office have started handing out french phrase books to the Rumanian gypsy's !

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2016, 03:18:20 PM »
 Keep an eye on the British Pound if you want a Morgan Carbtune. Looks like the price delivered right now (64 pounds) is around $87.50 US and may sink lower in the future.  http://www.carbtune.com/

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2016, 04:14:41 PM »
Goodbye Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland! I hope the UK didn't want them!  ;D
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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2016, 04:43:17 PM »
Keep an eye on the British Pound if you want a Morgan Carbtune. Looks like the price delivered right now (64 pounds) is around $87.50 US and may sink lower in the future.  http://www.carbtune.com/

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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2016, 04:44:40 PM »
Goodbye Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland! I hope the UK didn't want them!  ;D

Wales voted to secede as well as England. Scotland likely will opt out of the UK and back in to the UK as they voted to remain. NI will be a sticky problem for the UK, don't think they will be able to opt out of the UK.

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Re: Paris to ban MCs built before 2000?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2016, 10:41:30 PM »
oh paris isn't so bad always quite liked it

kev its ok from today the dole office have started handing out french phrase books to the Rumanian gypsy's !

Title page : "French phrase book for Rumanian gypsies"
Page One : "Have you some cash to spare so I can eat ?" Translation : "Avez vous quelques pieces d'argent pour manger ?"
The End.

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