Author Topic: lacing a wheel (Read 76398 times)

Einyodeler · « **Reply #25 on:** October 25, 2005, 04:59:10 PM »

Here`s a handy article on truing spoked wheels:

http://www.off-road.com/dirtbike/nov00rsWheelTruing.html

beachpeople · « **Reply #26 on:** March 01, 2006, 07:37:42 AM »

Well, I'm getting ready to attempt lacing up my 16" rim to a 550 rear hub. I took a thousand photos of the original pattern before I unlaced the original 18" rim, and just got my new spokes from Buchanans. My question is... there is a tube of stuf that came with the spokes. Is that lock tight for the spokes threads, or something I'm supposed to seal the spoke nipples with? Do they need sealing, since I'm going to be running a tubeless tire?

eldar · « **Reply #27 on:** March 01, 2006, 07:42:17 AM »

With spokes you would need a tube and rubber strap that covers the spoke heads. I am not even sure that if you were to seal the spoke heads, that you could even run a tubeless tire.

beachpeople · « **Reply #28 on:** March 01, 2006, 08:00:35 AM »

Thanks, Eldar. I was wondering how a tubeless tire wouldn't leak out air around the nipples, but thought maybe the rim strip did the sealing...

eldar · « **Reply #29 on:** March 01, 2006, 08:22:24 AM »

I wish. the strip protects the tube from being cut by the spoke heads.

Paul · « **Reply #30 on:** March 01, 2006, 08:30:29 AM »

if you don't have the rubber strip, you could run a few bands of insulintig tape or duck? tape around the spoke nipples...so long as you dont venture too close to the rim and prevent the tyre from seating.
Also just in case...the inner spokes and the outer spokes have different lenghts at the bend...Just in case you don't notice....I know someone who got caught with this.

I managed to get most of them right without realising it and had 4 spokes left in my hand that were from the wrong side.

bill440cars · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2006, 08:47:55 AM »

beachpeople, I didn't notice any one mentioning the tube of stuff that you got with the
spokes. I haven't bought any spokes yet but, it could be some sort of lube or anti-seize to prevent
rust. That would be my guess. Good luck with the wheel lacing. I'm liable to have to try that myself.
Later on, Bill

Vatch · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2006, 08:57:01 AM »

Yeah, keep us posted. I want to try that out in the not too distant future.

gregk · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2006, 09:01:19 AM »

Beachpeople

The lube you got with the spokes is to prevent the nipple galling (sp) on the spoke.

Greg

beachpeople · « **Reply #34 on:** March 01, 2006, 09:59:18 AM »

Yep, those shorter shouldered spokes go on the inside, and I'll be sure to use the tube of "stuff" on the spoke threads. Everything is all laid out, the beer is purchased, and I just need to get up the courage to "head on in". Do I install all the spokes in the hub first, and then start lining them up with their respective rim holes? I really wanted to bring all this stuff in to a local shop and have them do it until they quoted me a price. Yikes! That would seriously cut into my beer money! So I fgure I'll be a real bad-ass if I can lace up my own wheel!

seaweb11 · « **Reply #35 on:** March 01, 2006, 10:08:47 AM »

I have never done it myself but anytime I have seen them on TV doing a HD wheel they always put all the spokes on the hub and then slip the rim over the works from there. Seems to me they tape the inside of the rim to prevent scratching as well.

Good luck

beachpeople · « **Reply #36 on:** March 01, 2006, 10:40:17 AM »

Hey, I just did it! It was really not all that hard...I didn't even make through half of my beer! Of course, it isn't trued up, but I'll take the wheel in to a local shop and have them do the deed. Wow, I'm feeling pretty good now... like f*ck of the mountain! Don

Vatch · « **Reply #37 on:** March 01, 2006, 10:51:05 AM »

40 minutes! Wow. So out of curiosity, how much did the shop want for the job and did it include truing?

beachpeople · « **Reply #38 on:** March 01, 2006, 11:34:55 AM »

One shop wanted 3 hours labor for the whole package, and another one wanted $167... both included truing the wheel. I'm not sure if I'll be taking the wheel in today or tomorrow for truing, but I'll post the price they do it for. Both shops are chopper joints in North Myrtle beach.

eldar · « **Reply #39 on:** March 01, 2006, 11:38:45 AM »

Thats probably your problem right there. I would bet most chopper shops charge more. They might not I suppose.

eyhonda · « **Reply #40 on:** March 02, 2006, 07:04:50 AM »

You can true it yourself. Make a trueing stand out of a spare swingarm. Get a nice spoke torque wrench & spoke wrench from Buchanans. They are different. You can't tighten with the torque wrench or you really shouldn't. To check the trueness, you need a dial indicator tool with a 1" travel and a magnetic base. Go around the wheel, tightening every 4th spoke only a quarter turn, repeating four times. Of course, get it hand tight first. Check the trueness with the dial indicator every rotation. Read other articles for more details. But, basically you can get it true to within the spec without too much trouble. It will take some practice, but that's part of the fun with these bikes!

Eric

Hop on a Honda · « **Reply #41 on:** March 03, 2006, 02:16:02 PM »

This is FUN Fun.

The Rear swing arm is good and also make sure that the wheel bearings are new or have been replaced. This will certainly help in the balancing when the beast is laced together some what.
use the existing axle or another long piece of 15mm bar.
Using a DTI Dial test Indicator and a good heavy duty spoke / nipple spanner use the inner spokes ( the ones with the greater angle<) for lateral IE left or right run out and the outer spokes to align the radial management.This will take some time but a little at a time will get better results.
Do not be afraid to use a marking pen for the run out area.
A little at a time, make sure that you tune each spoke and also use a rubber mallet to give the rim a little encouragemamt to settle in the nipples in the recepticles.
The goo in the tube is probably a anti seize stuff

The fear of failure usually goes away with experience I will now have a go at my other wheel which will be done slung inbetween two milk crates with the axle in a level position tied in between them..
PS Try to find the heavy part of the unlaced rim and also the hub as well so as they can be placed opposite each other. Finnicky I know but works well in the long run in the balancing act. I used a level heavy sheet of glass to have as a base so as the rolling friction / motion is minnimum
I have also used a carpenters work horse that can be adjusted so as it can hold the rim and the hub in place .
Do not forget the hub /rim relationship in distance from each others run out.
Have fun
Dave

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 16, 2006, 03:28:23 PM »

Hello ,

I am just about ready to get my Spring 2006 work started on the bike, and I am in need of someone to lace up my Honda hub which I have to a 16'' HD rim (which will be purchased soon).

I still find it funny how, with me working in the American V-Twin world for more than 5 years, I can't find one person to lace up this wheel for me (that I can trust anyways) ! I am more than capable of doing it myself, I just don't want to be the test dummy and end up taking a spill or worse due to my lack of hub lacing skills....

A few months ago I bought a "complete" wheel laced to a Honda hub, but after removal of the worn out rim-strip, the decision was made to cut the hub out and ditch the rest. The rust was so bad, a screwdriver with minimal force went right thru rim

. Glad I found this out before I put the thing on my bike...

So , the question is , Anyone local to Illinois want to do me a favour and lace up a wheel ? I would guess it would need to take place in the next few months or so (still need to get all the parts).

Let me know, it would be much apprecated......

beachpeople · « **Reply #43 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:04:38 PM »

(This is the part where you find out who your friends are!)

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 17, 2006, 06:13:56 AM »

Guess I don't have any here...
Not like I wasn't gonna float some cash to the person ..... $:-\$

Steve F · « **Reply #45 on:** March 17, 2006, 06:53:18 AM »

I've done it once, real PITA! I did find that DGY in Downers grove will lace wheels and true them. No idea what they charge, but they do them.
Mike at DuPage Honda said he has done some relacing, but then again I'm not familiar with their workmanship. The main problem is getting the spokes the right length if it's not a stock wheel/hub combo.

MRieck · « **Reply #46 on:** March 17, 2006, 06:53:45 AM »

I had a guy in California named Kelly Moss do mine but that was about 12 or 13 years ago. He did a nice job and was reasonable. I'll try to dig up his phone # and address.

ditchen · « **Reply #47 on:** March 17, 2006, 06:58:12 AM »

I do my own, PITA for sure. Local shop here,( just across the lake, Niles, MI) does them for about $100.

I was looking to take my 16" HD rim off to put a stock rim back on. Witch is better the 16" wider, or the 18" OEM rim??

My Dad was hinting to me the other night to leave the 16" when I mentioned I wanted to put the stock back on.

ProTeal55 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 17, 2006, 07:41:02 AM »

DITCHEN--->
If you want to get rid of your 16'' let me know. I will gladly take it off your hands for ya

That would solve this whole issue...

I allready have a "donor" hub to use. But if I can find a wheel in decen shape, allready laced, I would rather do that. The one I threw away was just plain scarry...

comcrx · « **Reply #49 on:** March 17, 2006, 08:32:55 AM »

I'm sure this has been answered before, but how wide of a rim/tire can we use on our bikes, more specifically the rear?

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